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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



jon357
21 Aug 2023  #601

with actual situation on the ground

You forgot the first the.

The actual (do you mean current) situation on the ground is that r*SSia's three day special operation is bogged down after a year and a half and r*SSia is so depleted that they've been reduced to begging fatso in Pyongyang for help

amateur artist

Hardly an amateur since he sold his kitsch paintings (and his arse) to buy food when he was young and dirt poor in Vienna.

GefreiterKania
21 Aug 2023  #602

I afraid one dead austrian amateur artist might have disputed with you.

He might, but he's dead. Like about 120,000 Russian soldiers who died in this pointless war. So maybe, just maybe, it would be a good idea to try and come up with a viable way to end this war instead of phantasizing about starting another one.

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #603

r*SSia's three day special operation is bogged down after a year and a half

Who said it was planned for only three days? Do you have any special source of information within Russian MoD? The Ukrainian army has been almost ground down, NATO is in total disarray begging for partition of the ukraine.

He might, but he's dead.

Lets not forget who exactly made it possible.

Like about 120,000 Russian soldiers who died in this pointless war

Do not read anglo-saxonian newspapers. Bad source.

GefreiterKania
21 Aug 2023  #604

NATO is in total disarray

NATO hasn't arrived yet.

Substantial financial and material aid was provided for Ukraine but the weapons given to them were, with some notable exceptions, mostly second-rate.

I understand that it's easier for you to think that you're fighting a more or less equally balanced war against NATO but you're not. You're fighting against a corrupt, poor, post-Soviet republic that receives some handouts from NATO countries. The truth hurts, eh?

who exactly made it possible.

Three things made it possible: Hitler's idiocy, American money and Russian cannon fodder. Do you remember the price Slavic people paid for this war? If you do, then why has Russia started another Slavic slaughter?

Bad source.

I read all kinds of sources and, as I am an incorrigible Russophile, they are mostly pro-Russian. The estimate I gave is most likely quite accurate.

jon357
21 Aug 2023  #605

Who said it was planned for only three days? Do

Orcs, that's who.

And they're losing.

Bad source.

Indeed. Better to read the official estimate. The number of dead orc scum is double that.

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #606

NATO hasn't arrived yet.

...but already lost almost all its abilities to fight. Why are you challenging obvious facts. NATO military production is no match for the Russian one. German, France, UK are in deep recession, PMI is already less than 40. Their armies are hardly noticeable.

Three things made it possible: Hitler's idiocy, American money and Russian cannon fodder.

Ok, lets suppose it is true. I see no Polish input then.

jon357
21 Aug 2023  #607

UK are in deep recession

No it isn't. The U.K. is actually doing better than the other main economies. It has near full employment too.

r*SSia however has zeros on the supermarket price tickets.

mafketis
21 Aug 2023  #608

as I am an incorrigible Russophile, they are mostly pro-Russian

Believe me, I've noticed your pro-russian bias.... Want a second PRL and compulsory russian in the schools?

GefreiterKania
21 Aug 2023  #609

NATO military production is no match for the Russian one.

Where are your tanks then? Oh, you mean all those T-55s are freshly produced?

It is peace time for NATO. Compare the economies, GDP etc. - when NATO switches to war-time production, it will be a good time for you to change your diaper.

I see no Polish input than.

What's your point, Kostya? You want to "steamroll through Poland"? Go ahead - we are not hiding anywhere, you know the address.

I've noticed your pro-russian bias

I can't help it - I love those c*nts. Serce nie sługa. :)

GefreiterKania
21 Aug 2023  #610

compulsory russian in the schools

Rather than the vulgar bastard of a tongue we use on PF or the lovely Deutsch? Hmm... yes, I suppose I'd prefer Russian. Sue me. :)

jon357
21 Aug 2023  #611

vulgar bastard of a tongue

Still nicer, richer, more nuanced and more expressive than r*SSian emoting or the stilted and somewhat artificial pysz-pysz that is Polish.

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #612

No it isn't. The U.K. is actually doing better than the other main economies. It has near full employment too.

No they are not in good shape, you are wrong. One part of the same economy cannot perform well when all others are sinking. This would be in contradiction with common sense.

Where are your tanks then? Oh, you mean all those T-55s are freshly produced?

What's wrong with T-55, do they not fire shells?

Paulina
21 Aug 2023  #613

Look, it is no secret that Poland has its plans for the western ukraine.

;D
Wow, I've read about that bit of RuSSian misinformation, but this is the first time I encounter an actual RuSSian who actually believes those lies. So this is what ordinary RuSSians really believe?

Of course Russia has no plans to strike Poland first, why it should do this?

Well, if it's true then Poland is safe forever :)))))

Projection.... look it up.

Yup. I'm afraid so. And if regular RuSSians fall for this kind of propaganda then it's scary and sad at the same time. Sad because they clearly don't know anything about Poles and don't understand us at all.

GefreiterKania
21 Aug 2023  #614

What's wrong with T-55, do they not fire shells?

Well, if you put it this way. So good luck to your T-55s against our K2s, Abrams and Leopards when you start "steamrolling". *galactic eye roll*

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #615

Leopards

Those few that remains in possession of the ukranian army?

GefreiterKania
21 Aug 2023  #616

Those few that remains

OK, enough of that, Kostya. You bore me. *yaaaaaaaawn*

Wake me up when:

a) Russia invades Poland
b) Ukraine surrenders to Russia
c) Polish football NT wins the World Cup

Bobko
21 Aug 2023  #617

I started educate them many many years ago

Then you should know.

I see Poles as brothers. Lost, confused, in need of direction - but dearest brothers.

We need to moderate the message away from invasions and nukes dropping on their head, and towards opening their eyes to what wonderful friends they have acquired in Ukraine.

Cargo pants
21 Aug 2023  #618

I see Poles as brothers. Lost, confused, in need of direction - but dearest brothers.

Just like the Ukrainian brothers you back stabbed.

Bobko
21 Aug 2023  #619

the Ukrainian brothers

No such thing. It is schizophrenia.

Crnogorac3
21 Aug 2023  #620

American journalist/podcaster with Russians in the trenches.

Russian story:

youtu.be/WgQKQHPrqUU

Crnogorac3
21 Aug 2023  #621

Polish Krab - Self-propelled howitzers

twitter.com/AleksKarpushev/status/1693536803410591857

Armoured vehicles

twitter.com/AleksKarpushev/status/1693544783023595644

and counter-battery American radars

twitter.com/GammonBadge/status/1693349903680844096

Crnogorac3
21 Aug 2023  #622

A new verb iskanderized should be introduced in the English language - when the Russians blow you up with an iskander.

It seems that the Russians have iskanderized quite a few NATO officers in Chernihov - there is no place where these war criminals can hide, our hand will reach you even in the Pentagon.

youtu.be/itRJ3JkZ0is

GefreiterKania
21 Aug 2023  #623

American embassy in Minsk urges US citizens to leave Belarus...

by.usembassy.gov/alert-u-s-embassy-minsk-belarus-august-21-2023/

U.S. citizens in Belarus should depart immediately. Consider departing via the remaining border crossings with Lithuania and Latvia, or by plane


mafketis
21 Aug 2023  #624

American embassy in Minsk urges US citizens to leave Belarus...

Only now? What do they know?

GefreiterKania
21 Aug 2023  #625

Only now?

The information started appearing on the Internet today...

thehill.com/policy/international/4162594-us-citizens-urged-to-leave-belarus-immediately/

wydarzenia.interia.pl/zagranica/news-alert-ambasady-usa-w-minsku-wzywa-obywateli-do-opuszczenia-k,nId,6976814

aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-war/us-urges-citizens-to-leave-belarus-as-neighboring-lithuania-shuts-border/2972912

... I have no idea if anything particular happened. It's slightly worrying.

Paulina
21 Aug 2023  #626

Quote from one of the articles:

"The embassy's advice to the US citizens is to leave Belarus through the open border crossings with Lithuania and Latvia or by plane. 'The US citizens can't enter Poland by land from Belarus'"

Why not through Poland?

Alien
21 Aug 2023  #627

Why not through Poland

Because Polish border crossings are already closed?

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #628

American journalist/podcaster with Russians in the trenches.

Apparently they are not Russian troops. I would rather say those are DPR's military formations.

jon357
21 Aug 2023  #629

DPR's

No such thing...

Crnogorac3
21 Aug 2023  #630

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