Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7

Communism is much worse than nuclear exchange. All nukes detonated in Japan killed about 160k. Holodomor alone killed about 12 million people.

Amazing.

How to debate with such people?

If this is the argument on which you want to hang your hat, why did you bring up nukes in the first place?

Today has been a big waste of time.

US abortions killed 60 million.


I told you...

You're a Pole yourself, as much as you might try to deny it. You may disagree with Poland's foreign policies but limit your insults to those who are involved in making them, instead of insulting the entire nation.


I tried. It didn't work. I'm not going to waste anymore of my energy on trying to change something that is not within my power to change.

Polish foreign policy has the universal support of an "entire nation". That's what I was told here a number of times.

In answer to GefreiterKania's retarded pos

Well, a full blown balcanization of Russia would be great. Nukes, or no nukes.

Mine also as of 24 February 2022 :)))
Let us turn "Poland can into space" into "Poland can nuke" ;D


Kania is smarter than you, Novichok :)))
If I ever stop writing "RuSSia" and "RuSSians" it most defenitely won't be because of you or anything you are writing or will write on this forum.

Yes, we need 15 Russistans minimum.


We also need to be realistic.

How much of UA territory do you think that UA will be able to liberate from Orcland occupation?
All that they want is to be left alone. Russia in other hands wanna completely defenseless neighbors.

Zero.

C, D, and L are not occupied. They belong to the Russian Federation. Just as Hawaii and Gitmo belong to the US.

Absolutely nothing in Poland has ever had "the universal support of the entire nation". :)

Come on, let me have my little dreams ;D

Is this what you are pretending happened? lol, almost everyone thought Russia was going to win within a matter of weeks or months at first, even the people that didn't want Russia to win.

Up is down and down is up I guess.
Ukraine has already won and achieved their main objectives while Russia has failed to achieve their main objectives. I know that you will just change whatever you claim Russia's objectives are to try to make whatever happens seem like a great Russian success, but we all know what Russia was trying to accomplish at the start of the war.

What about Z and K? They had 'referenda' there as well..... nb even putain has referred to parts of C and D as 'Ukraine' .....

In other news, something I read today made me think that Ukraine has an extremely powerful resource on its side... Asabbiyah (something like group consciousness and unity towards a goal despite suffering along the way).

russia has none, it's all about the glory of the Tsar or abstractions like empire or stupid concepts like russkij mir that not even russians want... but not the 'we're in this together!' spirit found among Ukrainians.....

To compare.... the US became the most powerful country in the history of the world when its Asabiyyah was high (esp after WWII) and the Taliban has Asabiyyah while neither the USSR nor the US had it in Afghanistan

It's not a slam dunk but it explains the results better than any side by side comparison on numbers or weapons...

No, it has nothing to do with me. That's what the Russian constitution says. Try to take LDC away from Russia and tell us how it went.


Name three without adjectives. Numbers only. No stories.


OK. Majority. That's how democracies work.

There is nobody here in the US saying publicly that "Ukraine has already won". The best you get is that U is not dead yet...

You are what's wrong with Poland. It was your kind that gave us the Warsaw Uprising and 200,000 dead Poles. They, too, believed that they could beat the Germans and outsmart the Soviets.

Hey, GK, did you know that "Ukraine has already won"?

That's how stupid Poles are - unless they mean won hearts and minds which makes them even more stupid or just liars who like masturbating with poetry and metaphors.

Yes, they did coz they managed to save their country from Russian occupation which would be quite similar to the Nazi occupation during WW2. Russians planned to take Kyiv after 3 days but they failed. Where are they now? In deep ass. Sanctions are working every day, remember. :):):)

Hey, pawian, stay out of it. I asked K, not you.
Playing stupid, btw, is not a winning hand. Don't do that.
Using your stupid "logic", Japan won the war with the US on December 8, 1941, and Germany with the USSR (the great country that liberated Poland) on June 23, 1941.

This still belongs to a neutral debate. Nothing personal. Relax. :):):)


You see? You are playing infantile games and then cry out loud when posters treat you as shyt so in result you can`t bear it any longer and you mute them. Inconsistency still rulez! :):):)

...yes, I know...our admiration, love, and respect...


Your intervation will make him think that my question was answered.
I want to hear from him what it is Ukraine has already won. In numbers, not bullsh*it Polish poetry and metaphors.

Putin the Master of Africa

Conquers Gabon also, a country with oil and gas.

youtu.be/pqGbc5M-pPI

cnn.com/2023/08/30/africa/gabon-military-officers-say-power-seized-election-intl-hnk/index.html

reuters.com/world/africa/gabonese-military-officers-announce-they-have-seized-power-2023-08-30/

youtu.be/1wTMVDyI9WI

Gunfire heard in streets as Gabon military stage coup

#Slava Gabonu!

:)

youtu.be/Nrta5w3yP04

General Nguema named Gabon's transitional leader after coup

youtu.be/Wd0sOUsCwXE

Blow To West As Another African Ally Falls; Gabon Gets New Leader, People Celebrate | Watch

I love it! Thanks, Crn...That's what "America" needs.

Time to speed up this energy transition it seems!

Yes, Ukraine and Ukrainians would dearly like to restore Ukraine to their full borders.

That doesn't change the fact that Ukraine already won the main part of the war by preventing Russia from taking over Ukraine.

All Ukraine has to do for a basic victory is prevent Russia from taking over Ukraine. A goal that we would probably all agree is currently well beyond Russia's ability to accomplish at this time

Africans comment on CNN's reports on Africa:

OUR REACTION TO CNN 'EXPERT'S' TAKE ON NIGER

The speed at which Africa is realigning with the new multipolar world, finding its footing and expelling imperialists from the continent has left Western media breathless. Believing their own propaganda line - that Africans need the West for stability and growth - they are clutching at straws trying to understand Africa's self-confidence in reclaiming its destiny.

twitter.com/african_stream/status/1691443908138721280

youtu.be/LMiLz2BMmWE

Horace Campbell on Opposing Military Intervention in Niger & Disastrous U.S./French Role in Africa


The ultimate goal for the Russians is the destabilization of Nigeria - that is, the flow of oil to/in Nigeria. They are trying to create a crisis to damage the Western economy and raise the price of oil. That's why all this chaos in Niger and now Gabon in West Africa, which has become Europe's main supplier of oil... So the various "militia" in Nigeria and the various Taliban there will remember something, and so on in a circle.

There is no way that Udmurtia will ever achieve its war aims - regime change and colonial takeover.

In failing to do this Udmurtia has also

- become a client state of China and Iran
- lost its mealy mouthed corrupt supporters in Germany, France and Italy. Even traditional allies like Serbia and Greece are distancing themselves
- lost influence in Central Asia and the Caucasus, probably for ever
- lost maybe half its military "capability"
- permanently screwed its arms industry who it now seems are flogging junk to corrupt Africans
- forced the West to look for energy alternatives
- set its economy back 30 years

Definitely Ukraine has already won.

@cms neuf

The minute support to Ukraine is withdrawn (by the US - would be sufficient), it will collapse.

Can't say the same about Russia.

This is a game for time, and the price is blood.