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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



Korvinus
31 Aug 2023  #1111

Russia never wanted the whole Ukraine so Ukraine won nothing

But no, Russia's goals were far grander. Bringing Ukraine permenantly under Russia's control. And Russia failed. Ukraine stopped them.
Preventing the attacker from accomplishing their goals is sufficient for the defender to win. Even if the defender has some other goals they would also like to accomplish.

jon357
31 Aug 2023  #1112

In other good news for Ukraine, BAE is about to produce modern artillery in the country

Wonderful news, and I was pretty amazed about those cheap cardboard drones that Australia have given them. Too small and the wrong material to be picked up on radar and a couple of nights ago they destroyed four fighter jets, two artillery pieces and a missile defence system.

r*SSia has a lot to worry about at the moment.

Rheinmetall due to sign a deal with Kiev about producing their new MBT Panther 51 in Ukraine

Lovely news.

cms neuf
31 Aug 2023  #1113

Udmurtia wanted regime change - Murderer Putin stated that explicitly - something about them being Nazis and drug addicts.

Idea looked ok on paper - but it turned out like it always does for Udmurtia. No ammunition, no medicine, no petrol, no GPS.

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1114

Not the behavior of brothers.

Well... if you put it this way.

Have you ever wondered why every single Slavic nation (all of them your former allies), with the exception of Belarus, prefers to be allied to the West rather than to Russia? I'm not talking only about Poles, Czechs or Croats but even Bulgaria and Montenegro are NATO members these days.

So, it's one of the two, Bobi: either we all all venal kurwas and traitors or maybe (just maybe) there is something about Russian civilisational model that puts off even the countries closest to you geographically, genetically and culturally. Either all Slavic people - from Slovaks to Montenegrins and from Slovenians to Poles - are treacherous scoundrels or it is something about Mother Russia that is wrong. Tertium non datur, as ancient Serbs used to say.

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1115

Also...

When it comes to Polish-Russian relations in general, and foreign policies conducted by consecutive Russian and Polish governments alike, then - of course - a lot of things should have been done in a different way, more calmly and wisely; but at the end of the day it is for every independent nation to decide the way they want to go.

Bobko
31 Aug 2023  #1116

independent nation to decide the way they want to go.

Sometimes.. I wish you weren't here. Your kind treatment of me, has tempered many of my worst impulses.

Perhaps, this can be scaled to the size of countries...

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1117

Your kind treatment of me, has tempered many of my worst impulses.

Whilst Pawian's treatment of you has increased your worst impulses. Balance of nature.

This is an old game - it's called "good Pole, bad Pole". Pawian and I met in secret and threw a coin - I drew the good Pole role. ;)

Sometimes.. I wish you weren't here.

Your wish may actually come true, at least to some extent, soon. There are certain family matters that might limit my PF time significantly in the future; besides I always wanted to leave this hellish board but it's just too addictive. One way or another, I'll keep sending you "Myśl Polska" and will be checking on you here every now and then.

Keep you chin up, Bobi: Greeks and Romans ruled the world, then the Brits and Americans, perhaps Slavic time will also come. :)

Novichok
31 Aug 2023  #1118

When it comes to Polish-Russian relations in general,

...the Polish Russia haters would be singing different songs, and maybe would even learn the Russian national anthem if the US said fu*ck it and pulled out of NATO and Europe.

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1119

would be singing different songs, and maybe would even learn the Russian national anthem

I know Russian national anthem, as well as many Russian songs. Here's one for you, Ryszard...

youtu.be/_pVBR_fKnBE

... now f*ck off.

Novichok
31 Aug 2023  #1120

... now f*ck off.

Now say the same thing to the US army and make sure they go home where they belong. Tell them their house is fire and that Euros can take care of their Euro crap.

Bobko
31 Aug 2023  #1121

Your wish may actually come true

No.

You do this, I will be gone as well.

Let's continue corresponding.

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1122

Let's continue corresponding.

agreed

AntV
31 Aug 2023  #1123

always wanted to leave this hellish board

I will be gone as well.

This would leave the one and only Beebs. You guys go and my erratic visiting of this cyberspace vortex will completely flatline.

then the.... Americans, perhaps Slavic time will also come. :)

Never!!! We noble, brave, and strong Americans won't...ah, who the hell am I kidding, we can't get the difference between a male and female right anymore. ..it's time for you Slavs to give it a go.

I'm off to practice my rz, zi, cz, sz sounds.

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1124

I'm off to practice my rz, zi, cz, sz sounds.

:)

The Great Slavia will remember your friendly words and deeds, Anti.

AntV
31 Aug 2023  #1125

😎 Maybe I'll apply for honorary slavdom in Great Slavia.

Bobko
31 Aug 2023  #1126

@AntV

God bless you AntV. I say this as an atheist.

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1127

Right.

After all the friendly pleasantries, we can now revert to default PF settings:

@Pawian: You can jump on my pukiel again!
@Novi: Go suck on a rainbow lollipop, you grumpy old pillock!
@Espana: You f*cking hijo de sesenta mil putas, where are you hiding?

Aaaah... that's better. :)

amiga500
31 Aug 2023  #1128

friendly pleasantries, we can now revert to default PF settings:

Includes kicking russophiliac polaks in the balls.

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1129

kicking russophilliac polaks in the balls

You would break your tiny legs on my iron balls, aussie muppet.

Bobko
31 Aug 2023  #1130

Includes kicking russophiliac polaks

Kania would eat infantile dogs like you for breakfast.

AntV
31 Aug 2023  #1131

God bless you AntV. I say this as an atheist

Firstly, thank you very much.

Secondly, your blessing proves that atheism is only temporary even in the mind if the atheist. The question is whether or not the atheist will be convinced of his error during his temporal existence. 🙂

we can now revert to default PF settings:

🤣😂

Novichok
31 Aug 2023  #1132

What a way to turn the thread about a war that took at least 500,000 lives into a joke and a fake lovefest.
Rent a room and spare us this sickening feeling of near vomit...

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1133

Oh, shut up. It will all end up in Random anyway.

Paulina
31 Aug 2023  #1134

What a way to turn the thread about a war that took at least 500,000 lives into a joke and a fake lovefest.
Rent a room and spare us this sickening feeling of near vomit...

For once I agree with Novichok... o_O

if the US said fu*ck it and pulled out of NATO and Europe.

That, in theory, could happen one day and that's one of the reasons why Poland is strengthening its army.

dolnoslask
31 Aug 2023  #1135

Poland is strengthening its army

History has taught Poland not to rely on anyone but itself , the last betrayal being Yalta . Hopefully Poland will soon have the most powerful armed forces in Europe.

Bobko
31 Aug 2023  #1136

What a way to turn the thread about a war that took at least 500,000 lives into a joke

He has a point.

GefreiterKania
31 Aug 2023  #1137

has a point

Not really. It was just an off-topic tangent; such things happen on internet fora which are frequented by human beings not by always-on-topic bots.

The thread is still here and nobody is making jokes out of either the war or its victims.

Korvinus
31 Aug 2023  #1138

Perhaps, this can be scaled to the size of countries...

A question, if you may. Why does Russia even organize elections? At this point it is just a perverse ritual of pretending that Russia is a western-style democracy. Nobody gets fooled anymore. Nobody expects than anyone except Putin would win by a large margin. All his real opponents are either murdered or imprisoned. Why continue doing this? Nobody believes Russia is a democracy. Russians themselves don't want to become western.

mafketis
31 Aug 2023  #1139

Why does Russia even organize elections? At this point it is just a perverse ritual

That's what russia is.... one large perverse ritual of trying to convince itself of its own greatness....

Vlad Vexler claims that the putain regime (before the war) was all about appearances and pretend... it pretended to be a democracy and an authoritarian dictatorship at different times (the repression for everyday people was scattered and unpredictable).

Ironside
31 Aug 2023  #1140

the most powerful armed forces in Europe.

Poland need nukes, satelites and it own space capabilites, military complex, top notch research fasilities, professional soldiers, sound command structure, .....and on the very botum - tanks.


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