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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1411

that what you are saying? It's difficult to understand your point.

I am just saying that during the late years of the USSR, its communist party was staffed with compromisers and open traitors. They actively worked inside the party to destroy USSR.

Alien
4 Sep 2023  #1412

What is your evaluation of the current situation of Russia?

It turns into humus

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1413

What is your evaluation of the current situation of Russia?

Stable and thriving. Unlike EU, UK and US, Russia has PMI well above 50 points.

jon357
4 Sep 2023  #1414

According to you Poland is "fading away" and the UK is "falling apart".

Yet neither are being defeated in a war they started, neither are poisoning and jailing opposition figures, neither ar shooting planes down, neither are having explosions in their major cities, neither have runaway inflation or shortages of products and neither are having to train children to defend territories they illegally occupy.

For r*SSia, the future is bleak and they've brought it on themselves.

Don't fall for Velund's tricks to deflect from r*SSia's losses on the battlefield.

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1415

Stable and thriving.

You certainly don't let reality intrude into your life and opinions. :)

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1416

Russian economy is doing better than the EU's one.

jon357
4 Sep 2023  #1417

You certainly don't let reality intrude into your life

That is self-evident. Hard to know what planet he's on. Perhaps the planet should be named "Planet Weak Attempts To Distract By Orcs".

Russian economy is doing better than

Hahahahahahaha

Novichok
4 Sep 2023  #1418

You certainly don't let reality intrude into your life and opinions. :)

It is this kind of response that makes me see red.
A good-faith response would include a number different from 50. Or did you object to the adjectives he used?

Novichok
4 Sep 2023  #1419

Russian economy is doing better than the EU's one.

...for a very simple reason. Russia has to make what it used to import. That's good.
The EU has to pay dearly for what it used to get cheaply from Russia. Like gas - that thing you need to run ... everything...

Serves you right, a-holes...

On the other hand, I am glad somebody is willing to screw their own for "freedom and democracy" somewhere out there...I am not that generous and don't qualify to be German chancellor.

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1420

"Planet Weak Attempts To Distract By Orcs".

I still oppose to the use of "Orcs" in relation to Russians. It insults Poles too, because we are of the same Slavic ethnic background, so it makes us orcs too. Besides, it is putting cool Russians (Bobko), tolerable Russians (Velund) and obnoxious Russians (Kostya) into the same dehumanising category.

It is this kind of response that makes me see red.

Well, another added bonus then, I suppose. ;)

A good-faith response would include a number different from 50.

He only gave me Putin's Mass Index of 50. It doesn't sound like a very good number. My uncle had 32 and the doctor told him to lose some weight.

jon357
4 Sep 2023  #1421

It insults Poles too, because we are of the same Slavic ethnic background, so

Ethnicity is irrelevant. Behaviour is everything, and of course if you think that ethnicity is important, you'd do well to remember two things. One is that the entirely fitting term term Orcs comes from Ukraine, a country far closer to Poland than r*SSia is, and the other is that many of the Orcs aren't from parts of the r*SSian 'federation' that are inhabited by Slavonic speaking people.

Well, another added bonus then, I suppose. ;)

He must be permanently seething. Perhaps a trip to the doctor would help.

The EU has to pay dearly for what it used to get cheaply from Russia

Given the massive new tranche of North Sea oil/gas licences issued in the U.K. sector and the planned increase in extraction in the Norwegian sector, the EU will soon have much more energy from more stable sources.

Novichok
4 Sep 2023  #1422

...cool Russians (Bobko), tolerable Russians (Velund) and obnoxious Russians (Kostya)

I will take either one over the bootlicking Russia-hating idiots here every day of the week...See maf and jon.
Where is PAK?

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1423

aren't from parts (...) inhabited by Slavonic speaking people

Yes, those evil, slant-eyed people have bad influence over Russians. What to do?

Where is PAK?

Dunno. Probably wishing happy gulag to some b*tches somewhere.

jon357
4 Sep 2023  #1424

have bad influence over

The people that r*SSia dominate?

What to do?

End their 'federation', return their post WW2 implant muzhyks back to r*SSia proper and encourage self-determination for citizens of the mineral-rich states that r*SSia colonises.

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1425

Well, Jon, with attitude like that I really don't see you getting a Friends of Slavia Club membership card anytime soon. :-/

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1426

Wnaszych mediach mówi się o rzekomym przełamaniu rosyjskiej głównej linii obrony pod Robotino w rejonie miast Oriechowo-Tokmak. Dyżurni "analitycy" siejący prokijowską propagandę, wręcz mówią o długo oczekiwanym punkcie zwrotnym w wielkiej wiosenno-letniej ukraińskiej kontrofensywie.

Novichok
4 Sep 2023  #1427

Hey, CK, I just raved about you in Random and you pull this stunt here?

In Polish!!! ...to give me a headache?

There is no such thing as "media". These are wh*res for hire that get daily memos on what to write from DC and Londonistan.

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1428

These are wh*res for hire that get daily memos

Right in the hole

PolAmKrakow
4 Sep 2023  #1429

@Novichok
I am here, reading and laughing at all the same old arguments. Meanwhile, thousands are getting killed on each side, and no one is sitting at a table talking. The solution is simple really. NATO says no to Ukraine, and I believe the US will say no. Ukraine agree's to remain neutral. Russia agree's to a real UN watched referendum of all registered residents of the occupied areas including Crimea before the Crimea invasion. Then let the chips fall. That said, Russia still pays to rebuild Ukraine no matter what the outcome, everyone stops getting killed on both sides. But hey, I know, thats too reasonable for either side, so fvck it.

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1430

NATO says no to Ukraine, and I believe the US will say no.

Putin said that NATO is back to its 1997 borders. That is the main ultimatum to nato

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1431

Russia agree's to a real UN watched referendum of all registered residents of the occupied areas including Crimea before the Crimea invasion. Then let the chips fall.

Aaah, the Sarkozy Plan. I wrote about it some time ago. Sounds reasonable.

That said, Russia still pays to rebuild Ukraine

Should be no problem at all. They currently have BMI 150 or something (ask ConstantineK).

Novichok
4 Sep 2023  #1432

Hey, PAK, I knew this thread was missing you badly...even as my opponent.

Actually, it was me who used the "good men" phrase more than once in reference to both Ukrainians and Russians.

Are you going to run for president in 2024?

jon357
4 Sep 2023  #1433

Putin said that NATO is back to its 1997 borders

That won't happen.

Why would any of the countries involved agree to that?

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1434

That won't happen.

Sure it will, unless you will go to forthcoming war. I am sure you will not. NATO is just another paper tiger

jon357
4 Sep 2023  #1435

forthcoming war

Do tell.

Ironside
4 Sep 2023  #1436

because we are of the same Slavic ethnic background,

Not , not really if you take into accunt newst DNA resarch.

Novichok
4 Sep 2023  #1437

NATO is just another paper tiger

NATO is what happens when a tiger has sex with a snake...

mafketis
4 Sep 2023  #1438

Interesting thread on russia's propaganda campaign to paint Ukraine as some kind of neo-nazi state and what's behind it (hint: not nazis in Ukraine).

twitter.com/CanadianKobzar/status/1698466796762701835

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1439

Not , not really if you take into accunt newst DNA resarch.

I always take "newest" research with a pinch of salt. Besides, ethnicity is not only about DNA and genes, it's also culture, language, primal mythology etc.

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1440

Do tell.

Lets leave mutual animosity apart at least for a time being.
Personally i feel genuine pity for you. You own gov steadily dismantling society and people's fortune in the UK/US. And they are doing this on purpose.

Eventually they will seize all your remaining rights and will starve you (we all remember those FEMA coffins). Your island will become one huge concentration camp. At the end your Rishi, Borises and Lizes will drag your nations in one huge meat grinding war which they will most probably loose and run away to NZ, AU or may be even on Mars leaving you under the pile of corpses.


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