Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7

Don't tell me, tell Kania.... he still has some daft idea that Poland and russia can be friends....

@mafketis

The Polish government behaves as an enemy - there can be no doubt. The Polish people, are not the enemy.

After Polish... russian seems kind of clunky and primitive...

I was referring to a different part (translated by a brit of russian origin)

Apparently it talks lovingly about nuclear strikes often enough it's easy to get confused....

"Considering the weakening of nuclear detrrence, it is urgent to start a conversation with the leading countries of the world majority about the possibility (expediency, inevitability) of launching limited nuclear strikes on countries supporting the war in Ukraine, primarily NATO ones"

granted it doesn't actually say 'Poland' there but which non-nuclear NATO state gets the most hate on russian state TV?

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You think they want a second PRL?

Whoaaa! Really?

You are a true Patriot of Poland.

I disagree with you. Yes, polish people is our enemy. Polish gov is not something distinct and cannot be separated from the polish people itself.

In 1939 we fought a huge encirclement battle against the strongest and most modern army in the world invading from the west, north and south, as well as a rather decent force invading from the east.

Whom are we to be afraid of today? North, west and south are mainly secure (Królewiec will be taken in 2 days if need be), in the south-east are our Ukrainian allies, and in the east there is the potato-führer who may, I suppose, be reinforced with some spare Russian T-55s.

Forgive me if I don't tremble with fear. :)


And Russian people are not our enemy either. We are natural allies and one day everything will get back to normal between us.


Perhaps you are a Mongol? If so, please don't interfere when Slavic brothers are discussing things.

The constant repitition of pronouns when the verb is declined for person and especially the more frequent use of third person subject pronouns seems heavy and awkward... (and the spelling is too etymological why maintain unnecessary soft signs at the end of second person verbs)... I could go on....

Among Slavic languages after Polish I like

second/third: Czech-Bulgarian (tie)

fourth: Slovenian (small but kind of charming... "I will give" is 'jaz bom dal' (they use the past participle in all future verbs not just imperfecive verbs).

fifth: Belarusian (in łacinka)

sixth: Ukrainian (too close to Polish for a second language user to easily keep separate).

seventh/eighth (tie): serbo-croat (too unstandardized) russian (too heavy and awkward)

Can be and will be.

Think about it. Why on earth should we be enemies? Russia has no territorial claims on Poland or vice versa. We share similar ethnic heritage and the languages are similar as well. The potential for cooperation is there; it only takes a different government in Poland and a different government in Russia and we shall be singing Slavic kumbaya like crazy. :)

I disagree with you. It is easy enough, on this forum, to see that Poles have a very diverse political landscape.

Support for Ukraine, as a means of mortally weakening Russia, doesn't enjoy universal support. Quite a few people, in fact, hold the view that this is not "their war".

As Russians, we have enough enemies. Why make more than necessary?

Approximately 800,000 soldiers, 4,959 guns, 4,736 tanks and 3,300 planes... was it really a "decent".

We could have inhaled them with one nostril and snorted them out through the other. However, our dear French and British allies forced us to stop the mobilisation in the most vital moment, so our army wasn't fully mobilised and prepared. Not to mention the "great offensive" in the West that they started to help us. *rolls eyes* France and Britain f*cked us almost as hard as Third Reich and Soviet Union in September 1939.

Actually, we fought 4 countries: Germany, Soviet Union, France and Britain*. So we didn't do too bad. ;)

* - forgive me, Slovak c*nts, if I don't mention you

Are you sure. I think that in the end Germans will finally finish off polish independence as they did it in 1939 in Katyn.

Your knowledge of history is equalled only by your kindness and personal culture.

It was in 1940.

Highly controversial question, but i think those were germans.

Oh boy... Kostya what are you saying?

There has been archival proof, exhumations, and even mentions of personal participation in certain memoirs.

The State Duma had apologized to Poland for Katyn in 2010.

kommersant.ru/doc/1547719

You think you know better than all that? Are you a KPRF voter? A fan of Grandpa Zyu?

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I've heard that Wrocław has the most. And then I suppose there must be quite a few in Łódź, Cracow, Szczecin and Bydgoszcz. It makes sense for immigrants to settle in large cities but I've seen quite a few of them in smaller cities as well (e.g. Słupsk and Koszalin). I think the official number should by multiplied by two (easily).

No, still there are no solid facts confirming Soviet involvement. The fact that this "discovery" was made by Nazi Germans and served to the Goebbels's propaganda objectives, is alarming by itself.


That was a time when it was infiltrated by national traitors peddling western agenda.

Хватит лажаться перед Поляками. Вики страницу хоть прочти:

« Завершившееся в 2004 году расследование Главной военной прокуратуры России подтвердило вынесение «тройкой НКВД» смертных приговоров 14 542 польским военнопленным по обвинению в совершении государственных преступлений и достоверно установило смерть 1803 человек и личность 22 из них.»

Главная военная прокуратура тоже сплошь из агентов запада состоит?

Wikipedia is not a source of the supreme truth.

Yes. Thank god there are footnotes, which link to sources.

Bobko and CK playing 'good cop / bad cop' is the cutest thing ever!

These sources were fabricated during Gorbachev's time.

Fabricated with the purpose of permanently ruining relations between Poland and Russia? Truly geniuses these men in KGB archives.

Care to explain your vision of the rationale for this master forgery?

You are starry eyed idealist, you clearly underestimate the role of moral superiority in the politics.

No of course not.

And you're just trying to distract from Ukraine's recent good progress and r*SSa's insoluble problems.

Ok... this requires further explanation. Gorbachev attempted to gain moral superiority over Jaruzelski, by showing him he was not afraid to admit the Soviet role in the Katyn Massacre?

Is that what you are saying? It's difficult to understand your point.

You better to focus on insoluble problems of the UK. It is falling apart and nothing can save it.

There aren't any and it isn't. Also, it would be off topic since this thread is about Ukraine's current good progress, r*SSia's decline and Poland's relations to this,

What is your interest in Poland? Given that the forum is about PL.

According to you Poland is "fading away" and the UK is "falling apart".

What is your evaluation of the current situation of Russia?