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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



Paulina
3 Sep 2023  #1351

You need to learn how to read, and also how to understand what you have read.

Meaning? My point is that what you wrote is not true - Putin had to resort to the so called "partial mobilisation".

pawian
3 Sep 2023  #1352

My point is that what you wrote is not true

Typical of our Russian boys.

partial mobilisation".

Also called covert mobilisation. It means the mobilisation is going on without announcing it officially. KGB leaders of Russia are sly.

Bobko
3 Sep 2023  #1353

My point is that what you wrote is not true

I strongly advise you, again, to learn how to read.

Here is what I wrote:

"Fact of the matter is, Putin - unlike Zelensky - has still largely not tapped the conscription pool, but has relied more on volunteers."

Please study this sentence by tomorrow, and write me a report on what you have learned.

Good night.

Paulina
3 Sep 2023  #1354

@Bobko, and I commented on this post of yours:

Ukraine is forcing men to the front like cattle, while Putin has not had to resort to this yet.

...which is not true.

Besides, considering the different situation of both countries making such comparisons is silly.
Ukraine announced mobilisation at the beginning of the RuSSian invasion, because Ukraine got.. invaded. Mobilisation would happen in every invaded country. Also, Ukrainians are a much smaller nation than RuSSia, so it's pretty obvious that they can't just rely on volunteers in defending their country's independence. I wonder what Putin would have to resort to if the whole of NATO or China made a full scale invasion of RuSSia, you smart ass, eh o_O

pawian
3 Sep 2023  #1355

I wonder what Putin would have to resort to if the whole of NATO or China made a full scale

Yes, he would mobilise even kindergarten kids. In Russia kindergartens teach kids to be good soldiers who should die for the country and Puitn. :):):)

jon357
3 Sep 2023  #1356

Yes, he would mobilise even kindergarten kids

They're certainly training school kids in occupied Crimea as part of the Putler Youth.

I wonder what Putin would have to resort to if the whole of NATO or China made a full scale invasion of RuSSia

They would literally destroy themselves as they burnt Moscow in 1812. That or hope that their unmaintained nukes work in which case the free world would destroy them in a day.

Novichok
4 Sep 2023  #1357

In Russia kindergartens teach kids to be good soldiers...

...which is infinitely better than that some girls have penises.

jon357
4 Sep 2023  #1358

...which is

Which is irrelevant.

Why bother posting that?

Evidently you have a sick obsession...

Velund
4 Sep 2023  #1359

sick obsession...

From your post we can understand that obsession can be sick (like not liking the fact that some women have penises) and healthy (like war to the last Ukrainian while being at a safe distance). ;) Did I get it right?

mafketis
4 Sep 2023  #1360

, Putin .... has still largely not tapped the conscription pool

Most of the mobilization (which has never stopped) is simply not publicized because when it was publicized you had a mass exodus out of the country).

Most russians tend to be passivew and if they're not told to think about something.... they don't think about it..... sheeple as the Americans say.

Word is there's another mobilization coming in mid-September targetting debtors (lots more of those now due to sanctions).

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1361

I'm offering you not just a break, but a whole vacation from PF.

My advice to you, just leave this forum for 10-15 years as i did it.

mafketis
4 Sep 2023  #1362

some girls have penises

I really think there's a doctoral dissertation in maladaptive psychology going on in novi's brain.....

Prompt: Gender crazies think women can have penises and men can give birth
Novi: russia was right to invade Ukraine!!!!!!

Prompt: The US engages in unnecessary and stupid foreign interventions
Novi: russia was right to invade Ukraine!!!!!

Prompt: Historic victims of russian aggression look for protection from russia
Novi: russia was right to invade Ukraine!!!!

What's the chain of thought there....

Crnogorac3
4 Sep 2023  #1363

Srbska Akcija:

On the occasion of the death of the leadership of PMC Wagner

akcija.org/povodom-pogibije-rukovodstva-cvk-vagner/#more-11980

As we have repeatedly pointed out, Russian nationalism today has two battle fronts. The front against the NATO Zionists and their ukro-marionettes and the front against the treacherous rossiyanic regime. Today, there is no possibility for Russian nationalists to wage an effective armed struggle against the anti-Russian regime, but only against Ukrainian separatists and their bosses. Actually, the first is possible, but only if they side with NATO criminals and Ukrainian Russia-haters, such as the bastards and quasi-nationalists from the "Russian Volunteer Corps". And that is a completely wrong path.

Because the NATO occupation, aggressive pederasization, naked hatred of Russia and the struggle to destroy the Russian Church, the Russian language and Russian culture are much worse than all the anti-Russian evils brought about by the treacherous regime in Moscow. As the Ukrainian state (in itself) and the Ukrainian quasi-nation, as Bolshevik creations, are a much greater monument to Bolshevism than all those monuments to Bolshevik criminals that the Russian Federation is insanely restoring, and which should be destroyed, just as the thug Ukrainian state should be destroyed.

It is a fact that many Russian nationalists at the front are potential targets of the anti-Russian regime. But the regime is increasingly busy with its internal cracks, and every real and active nationalist is certainly a potential target of the anti-Russian regime, whether he is on the front or not. So that argument against participating in the war also falls away.

Because of all this, RID stands on the point of view that "the Russian renaissance will be conceived in the fields of Novorussia, with a war victory. Because the course of history is going in the right direction and no one can stop it. Why? Because behind all events stands the Creator and His will is undeniable."

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Imperial_Movement#:~:text=The%20Russian%20Imperial%20Movement%20(RIM,%2C%20far%2Dright%20paramilitary%20organization.

mafketis
4 Sep 2023  #1364

no possibility for Russian nationalists to wage an effective armed struggle against the anti-Russian regime

ussian nationalists at the front are potential targets of the anti-Russian regime

Indeed... western russian shills who imagine putain as some kind of nationalist are crazy... nationalists have a long history of hating many of his policies (like open border immigration with central asia) and his preference for 'rossijane' (citizens of russia) instead of 'russke' (ethnic russians).And putain has a long history of unaliving such nationalists....

To the extent that he has a policy it's empire of the type that Serbia traditionally hated... (inland rather than overseas empire like Austro-Hungary).

Crnogorac3
4 Sep 2023  #1365

Kiev, Lithuania Demand the Pope Condemn All Russian History as Pure Evil

The Pope supports the war in the Ukraine.

But if he says there are some good things in Russian history... he's not allowed to say that.


dailystormer.in/kiev-lithuania-demand-the-pope-condemn-all-russian-history-as-pure-evil/

Experts Says US is Overdoing the Sanctions, Could Cause Calamity

The US literally uses sanctions like a ninnying schoolmarm uses detention.

It's not a serious country, and it doesn't deserve to be the boss of the world, going around forcing people to do anal on each other.


dailystormer.in/experts-says-us-is-overdoing-the-sanctions-could-cause-calamity/

The Kiev Junta is Scrambling to Find New Warm Bodies to Throw Into the Meat Grinder

dailystormer.in/the-kiev-junta-is-scrambling-to-find-new-warm-bodies-to-throw-into-the-meat-grinder/

to date the "collective west" has no plan to surrender despite having lost proxy war to Russia;
they are willing to send another 40K goyim to die in teh meat grinder!
no pity for any eurocuck or amerikwan that goes to former stalinist entity to get killed.

youtu.be/K-SZ4wr4y30

Many still don't understand the reason for this conflict.
Problem number one - the dollar and the power it gives to a small American religious elite, which in turn rules the world.
If you think that this small American religious elite is going to lose this dominance without a fight, you are sorely mistaken.
Tucker is right and I personally agree with his analysis, which is also mine.


Luke1410
4 Sep 2023  #1366

What's the chain of thought there....

He's been YT'd, use his example as a warning to stay well away from it.

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1367

It seems something is going wrong with the ukrainian offensive:

Polska zaczęła wydawać Ukrainie mężczyzn, którzy wyjechali z kraju
Polskę i inne państwa UE mogą zalać ukraińskie wnioski o ekstradycje mężczyzn, którzy dzięki łapówkom wyjechali z kraju. Niektórych Ukraińców Polska już przekazuje służbom nad Dnieprem.

Bobko
4 Sep 2023  #1368

Polska zaczęła wydawać Ukrainie mężczyzn, którzy wyjechali z kraju

Yep, wrote about this yesterday.

Ukraine seems to be running out of manpower earlier than anyone predicted.

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1369

Niektórych Ukraińców Polska już przekazuje służbom nad Dnieprem.

Proper order.

Healthy young men, in times of war, should fight for their country instead of sipping cold beer on a lovely Baltic coast. Life is brutal and full of zasadzkas.

Bobko
4 Sep 2023  #1370

@GefreiterKania

Meanwhile, Ukrainian men that have escaped to Russia, rather than the EU, face no such extradition requests.

Smart guys.

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1371

Ukrainian men that have escaped to Russia

It still seems extremely strange to me. Imagine Poles fleeing to Third Reich in September 1939. 0_0

As I said, nothing about this war is what it seems at first glance.

Bobko
4 Sep 2023  #1372

It still seems extremely strange to me

We host a population bigger than Poland.

According to Izvestia, as of Feb. 20, 2023 - the number of Ukrainian refugees fleeing the war has reached 5.3 million people. IMHO, that's quite a number...

Proportionally, Poland has of course still accepted more.

Quote:

"Количество беженцев, прибывших в Россию с территории Украины и Донбасса с февраля 2022 года, возросло до 5,3 млн. Среди них - 738 тыс. детей, сообщили 20 февраля ТАСС в силовых структурах."

Source: iz.ru/export/google/amp/1472836

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1373

We host a population bigger than Poland.

Perhaps, perhaps not. I think our dear overlords are bullsh*tting us and I don't buy this 1.2 million official number (if that was true then proportionally Russia accepted more).

Ukrainians are everywhere in large numbers. No matter if you go to the city centre, a park or a shopping mall on the outskirts, you hear Russian/Ukrainian almost as often as Polish. And it's not like Gdańsk is some kind of exception; I spent a couple of weeks in Poznań and Warsaw this summer - the same thing.

Poland has effectively become a binational country, and even pro-government media admit that (e.g. Do Rzeczy, 34/2023).

P.S. Not to mention that some local shops and supermarkets are staffed almost exclusively with Ukrainians. I remember some old guy on a local newspaper board complaining that he couldn't communicate in his local Biedronka lol. Did he forget Russian he learnt at school?

Velund
4 Sep 2023  #1374

Ukraine seems to be running out of manpower earlier than anyone predicted.

So, it's time for Poles and Lithuanians to write a will and wait to be conscripted?

GefreiterKania
4 Sep 2023  #1375

Poles and Lithuanians

Last time I checked First Rzeczpospolita disappeared off the map in 1795. That was the only country I know of in which Ukrainians going to war meant Poles and Lithuanians going to war too (with them or against them :)).

Bobko
4 Sep 2023  #1376

it's time for Poles and Lithuanians to write a will and wait to be conscripted?

Poles could provide a lot of manpower (but problem is with Schengen - the men can simply leave to Spain, or some such place), but Lithuania would be an absolute joke!

Ukraine has probably lost more men, than the entire population of military age males living in Lithuania.

Ukrainians are everywhere in large numbers

Maybe it's just a Gdańsk, Poznan, Warsaw issue? I can't imagine that the Ukrainians with means (almost by default means Ukrainians from big cities), would want to move to somewhere in rural Poland.

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1377

Proper order.

Healthy young men, in times of war, should fight for their country instead of sipping cold beer on a lovely Baltic coast.

One can only hope that Romania will be as hospitable for Poles in case of the looming war as it was in 1939.

mafketis
4 Sep 2023  #1378

Nothing says a

country is in a struggle for its place under the Sun

Quite like calls for preemptive nuclear strikes against Poland...

twitter.com/usv1980/status/1698585843517051318

the rest of it is just as sick and insane as.... every other aspect of modern russia....

ConstantineK
4 Sep 2023  #1379

Proper order.

Healthy young men, in times of war, should fight for their country instead of sipping cold beer on a lovely Baltic coast.

One can only hope that Romania will be hospitable for Poles in case of big war as they were in 1939.

Quite like calls for preemptive nuclear strikes against Poland...

Poland is the enemy. Why Russia should not treat it as such?

Bobko
4 Sep 2023  #1380

Quite like calls for preemptive nuclear strikes against Poland...

You must think no one opens your links. Well, that may be true... but for once I decided to open it, and lo and behold - it doesn't say what you say it does.

Surprise, surprise!

If only you could read Russian, it says that "one way to disable a potential German or Polish nuclear program, would be preemptive strikes against those sites."

I know Ironside wants nukes, but has the Polish government said anything in this regard?


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