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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



Cargo pants
2 Oct 2023  #2851

..I am bored with you now as you are incapable of intelligent argument or debate.

LOL am I good or what....Mission accomplished lol

Dobranoc!

Oh NO,please lets start the party

Why had you always boasted of your business and never planned to retire but all of a sudden you sold it and became pensione

Because people here pulled his leg so much that now he had to post that he retired.NOTICE how he can only come and post late night or on holidays in daytime lol

Novichok
3 Oct 2023  #2852

Ukraine will win this war, because the west want it to, end of story.

The West wanted to win in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan and didn't.
I know...Ukraine will be different because Sweden is now in NATO. I wonder if Russia knows it.

Novichok
3 Oct 2023  #2853

Fury as Maine high school sophomore transgender runner, 16, dominates girls' races and rises to 4th in rankings - after coming 172nd while racing as a boy

Memo to Biden: If a boy can self-id as a girl why can't Crimea self-id as Russia?

GefreiterKania
3 Oct 2023  #2854

the immediate question which must be resolved after this war is the Polish question

Final solution to the Polish question

Slightly disappointing, I must say.

I thought that Kostya might have some potential to interest me but it's only another idiot who confuses Poles with Czechs and tries to scare us.

One way or another, @ConstantineK: if it ever comes to that, I hope that you will fight in the airforce or airborne forces. I am reserve air defense, and I will save one special missile just for you. See you then.

Alien
3 Oct 2023  #2855

special missile

They are all called the Kostya missile. One of them will hit.

ConstantineK
3 Oct 2023  #2856

@ConstantineK:I am reserve air defense, and I will save one special missile just for you. See you then.

It was lame attempt of epatage. Do not take it seriously. Poles are humains, though rather strange, and certainly they do not deserve final solution.

I dont want to be like one UK gentlemen from this forum.

Miloslaw
3 Oct 2023  #2857

all of a sudden you sold it and became pensioner 1 year after brexit had taken place?

I didn't export or import much so it had no effect.Please try harder!

Mr Grunwald
3 Oct 2023  #2858

@ConstantineK
No worries, Poles have learned that no matter what a Pole does, thinks, means or wants. The end goal of Germans and Russians states is for the obliteration and destruction of Poland and possibly Poles by the most efficient tools and means necessary, Darwinistic approach at it's very peak.

So when a German comes to a Pole talking about their might and strength and how they are supposed to do anything it gives rolling eyes, when a Russian comes and talks about the might of the Russian army and how Russia can and will nuke Poland it gives a thought of: "Oh this again... Isn't this kind of getting old already?"

But when a German or Russian shows compassion, love, empathy or willingness to trade and live peacefully it wakes up bewilderment, curiosity and a doze of: "Is this guy for real? Why is he like this?"

Expectations are rather low

So smile, don't worry and no need to think about Polish reactions to how much and how often you want to nuke Poland

Novichok
3 Oct 2023  #2859

This forum is like the US MICC. It will lose the reason to exist when this war ends.

ConstantineK
3 Oct 2023  #2860

The end goal of Germans and Russians states is for the obliteration and destruction of Poland

I would rather use expression "russians always save Poles from themselves"...

PolAmKrakow
3 Oct 2023  #2861

@pawian
Sorry, its not short sighted to take care of your own people first. When the US infrastructure is literally crumbling, bridges are being closed because they are unsafe, roads are unsafe, and there is unsafe drinking water in many cities, it is more fair to say the US has been short sighted on taking care of the people for the last 50 years. Fighting everyone elses wars for democracy lasted decades, and now its just a matter of funding this war? No. When Ukraine will be rebuilt newer, better and faster than the US with US money there is a real problem and the people are seing it now.

@mafketis
Old busted up equipment? And billios of dollars to keep the economy moving, paying their soldiers, paying their retiree's and buying weapons for them. But if its all old and busted up, Ukraine wont miss a beat when it dries up.

Hilarious all the drum beaters who want more from the US arent from the US. Havent been to the US lately, and stick their heads in the sand as it relates to US citizens who will be going to the polls next November. 15 months and the clock is ticking.

mafketis
3 Oct 2023  #2862

its not short sighted to take care of your own people first

It's short sighted to think that money not sent to Ukraine will be spent on border control or welfare relief or addiction treatment.... if any US government had the slightest interest in doing any of that it would have already happened.

Ukraine funding, as an issue, is a distraction for low information voters like the wall on the border with Mexico which Trump never built...

PolAmKrakow
3 Oct 2023  #2863

@mafketis
The wall that wasn't built? At a mere 8 Billion, that congress refused to fund? Compared to the bundreds of billions sent to Ukraine? Which looks like the better invstment at home? The wall that wasn't built was nearly complete. Then the Biden admin sent agents to cut gates in the wall and weld them open. With all due respect Maf maybe all programs in Europe for Europeans should be cut to fund Ukraine. Hows that for an idea. Level up and do it on the European dime and ignore all European needs. Hypocritical position if you wouldnt support the EU doing just that.

Lenka
3 Oct 2023  #2864

At a mere 8 Billion, that congress refused to fund? Compared to the bundreds of billions sent to Ukraine?

You do realise you are backing Maf's words, don't you?

mafketis
3 Oct 2023  #2865

that congress refused to fund?

He had different options like executive orders etc (I saw one article that detailed a few things he could have done).

Total funding for Ukraine is less than half of one percent of the US budget (about 0.3 percent IIRC). That money is not going to the border or to relieve misery or addiction.

What programs specifically werre cut to aid Ukraine?

The US has been on a path of planned, mass immiseration from Obama* thru Trump and to Biden (and whoever wins 2024). That is a completely separate issue from any aid given to Ukraine.

*the real beginning was when Obama decided to bail out Wall street rather than let people keep theirhouses, a real canary in the coalmine situaiton that most ignored....

Novichok
3 Oct 2023  #2866

When the US infrastructure is literally crumbling, bridges are being closed because they are unsafe,

Hey, pawian, here is your next oppo to say something really stupid...Like "Can't they print more money?"

Then the Biden admin sent agents to cut gates in the wall and weld them open.

...and actually help the invading trespassers in. Literally...It does not get any more infuriating than watching your own government assist the enemy.

PAK, did you decide to run yet?

PolAmKrakow
3 Oct 2023  #2867

@Lenka
You realize that Trump funded nearly all of it with executive orders and was very close to completing it? And at that time illegal immigration was at its lowest in decades. And I am not a Trump supporter.

Total funding for Ukraine is less than half of one percent of the US budget (about 0.3 percent IIRC).

Its not your money to spend, and the American people have every right to demand that it be spent where they want it. Not where the MIC, and people with political agendas want it.

Now the US has demanded more accountability because more corruption is coming up in Ukraine. Z gets the world handed to him, and cant fix the corrupt system when the whole world is watching. Sorry folks, but Ukraines are just as corrupt as Russians. Thats just a fact. Only difference is that Ukraine has a smaller population.

Novi, after what I have seen this year in my US travels, more than ever before I believe the country is on the brink of societal collapse. Boston, the center of Kennedy like politcal hope in the country, is firmly turning away from Biden and embracing Kennedy Jr. Politcal signs for Kennedy were on so many lawns it was shocking to see this early in the cycle. Kennedy is another that would force an end to the war. Biden needs to go, and the Democrats are so corrupt they wont even allow Kennedy to be in the primaries. Look for him to run as an independent, and that will be the end of Biden for sure.

Ukraine supporters need to stop looking at this emotionally. The US citizens are "over it" and want no more of it. Eventually, US people get what they want. Especially when it comes to tax and spend, print more money and drive inflation higher democratic politics.

mafketis
3 Oct 2023  #2868

the American people have every right to demand that it be spent where they want it

Ultimately I agree but good luck with that... how are the American people going to enforce their demands?

the country is on the brink of societal collapse

Would not surprise me in the least....

It is however, a very bad choice.... lots of countries see parts of neighboring countries and any country that gets away with chopping off sections of its neighbors sets a very, very, very bad precedent I'm not just talking about China (half of Latin American countries have this syndrome).

Ukraine has a corruption problem that it had been trying to deal with.... russia has a corruption problem that everybody is okay with.... that's the difference.

PolAmKrakow
3 Oct 2023  #2869

@mafketis
Its a worse choice to ignore the demands of the people who pay the taxes and who are responsible for the debt being created. Precendet or the setting of it is not the US job to to world wide. The US people are finally realizing this. I support the defeat of Russia, but not at the expense of the financial defeat and infrastructure destruction of the United States. If Ukraine lost it would be bad. If the United States is lost, it is a lot worse for the world. Remember, if not for the US raising the alarm on the invasion, or training Ukraine since 2014, Russia would have rolled all over Ukraine. So we are not talking about short term support, its nearly a decade of support.

The world needs a strong United States. I include Russia and China in that statement. Without the US, a global collapse would take about 90 days. Even Russia and China know this. So the US and Dems Fing around with all this spending is not in the worlds best interest.

China? Latin America? Let them sort themselves out. Again, not the US or EU problem to deal with. If the EU and US just took care of themselves, every one of those $hit hole countries would collapse on themselves, and then, people can go in and see if they want to join the modern world. If not F them.

mafketis
3 Oct 2023  #2870

In better news.... Ukraine's three key Black Sea ports are all now functional and international insurance companies are beginning to restore coverage....

A key russian point of blackmail has collapsed while russia's influence in the Black Sea continues to wither....

And, funny... Kremlin propagandists begin to abandon Z the symbol of russia in this whole misbegotten war... also V which was another symbol of the war is now bad... apparerently they only now, after 20 months realized that V Z are the initials of Volodymyr Zelenskyy.....

Sad russians, so wrapped up in their crazy ideology they forget basic facts....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1709224249594880455

mafketis
3 Oct 2023  #2871

EU bans cars with russian license plates from entering...

lavrov (the walking talking horse tvrd) reacts by saying it's 'nazism'

twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1709102568733827472

they need to pick a different card once in a while...

GefreiterKania
3 Oct 2023  #2872

Poles are humains (...) and certainly they do not deserve final solution.

Votre MajestĂ©, vous ĂȘtes trop gentil...

1

... *galactic eyeroll*

mafketis
3 Oct 2023  #2873

Novi's dream woman, Margarita "I love censorship!" Simonyan describes the scenario of a thermonuclear device going off over Siberia and disabling satellites and digital devices the world over.... she thinks it's a great idea!!!!!

this is what collective insanity and a collective death drive look like....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1709247356556702124

mafketis
3 Oct 2023  #2874

russia... let's send a bunch of degenerate murderers to war and then pardon them! What's the worst that could happen?

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1709251604677792149

russia's collective death drive continues....

ConstantineK
3 Oct 2023  #2875

The numbers of Ukrainian units and soldiers that are giving up is increasing daily, most of it happens at the lowest level because these people have had no effective training. They're not prepared for this and they're being sent to their deaths. This was in line with reports from American military personnel and Ukrainian servicemen who served on the frontlines and reported life expectancies at times measured in the hours due to the tremendous rates at which casualties were taken.

pawian
3 Oct 2023  #2876

When the US infrastructure is literally crumbling, bridges are being closed because they are unsafe, roads are unsafe, and there is unsafe drinking water in many cities

Wow! Reminds me of Poland at the collapse of communism and a few years afterwards. Impossible that the US got to such a state or stage.

Like "Can't they print more money?"

I can`t say it coz I am not a Polish rightist-leftist mongrel from PiS. Ha!

The numbers of Ukrainian units and soldiers that are giving up

BS. When a putinist imperialist Russian mentions Ukrainians surrender, it means Russians surrender too often and it needs to be covered with false propaganda. That`s how Russian trolls work all over the world.

pawian
3 Oct 2023  #2877

Poles are humains (...) and certainly they do not deserve final solution.

Your Russian buddy reflected on the stupidity he had said, after seeing your unfriendly reaction and probably receiving warnings from other Russians here. Too late, the milk has spilt. What a slip-up! :):):)

It means imperialist Russians dream of getting rid of Poland and Poles. Like Nazis during WW2.

ConstantineK
3 Oct 2023  #2878

Your Russian buddy reflected on the stupidity

At least the Russians are capable of reflections...

pawian
3 Oct 2023  #2879

You wouldn`t go back on your words if Kania had taken it as a joke. He didn`t and only then did you realise your stupidity.

ConstantineK
3 Oct 2023  #2880

You know, perhaps I revoke my apology. Poles certainly deserve some sort of decimation. Just for educational purposes.


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