Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 12

My reaction exactly to the "dreadful British accent" I can't stand it!

Oh, this world-famous European freedom of speech...

The German outlet Compact was quashed in its home country days after publishing a conversation with the Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman.

This week, the German government banned the publication and began a police investigation into its associates, after accusing it of fueling "far-right extremism.

Hey, Nazitus, how is that freedom of speech of yours different from when you were under Soviet control?

@Novichok

Tell us all about freedom of speech in the USA and let us all have a good laugh.....

No problem.

I read RT.com daily. I post my hate toward migrants.

I can deny the Holocaust if I want to. OK. Here we go: The Holocaust never happened.

I can have a shirt with a swastika on it.

I am allowed to say that Hitler was a great German patriot and a leader.

Try that in Germany and tell me how it went.

Please, don't be an idiot and tell me that I am sick to say this. We are discussing our freedom of speech laws, not my personal views.

Now respond to my post #1052.

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Children and morons, today Grandpa Novi will explain why we have a war in Ukraine...

Since I am too tired to write, I will just copy a comment from YouTube:

When Orban president of Hungary tried to achieve a peace deal the other members of NATO were furious.

Why have peace when the political elites, donors, and the military-industrial complex can make riches beyond their dreams and blame Russia for their citizens facing hardships?

Julian Assange speaking in 2011: "The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war"

Ukraine is the new cash cow.

Amen.

Did you know that OUN (yes, yes - the first part of OUN-UPA) still exists? Київська міська організація ОУН...

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kijowska_Miejska_Organizacja_OUN

... is, according to their own members, a direct continuation of the nationalist OUN organisation.

Do I give a f*ck about Ukrainian neo-nazis? Do they mean more to me than a piece of sh*t attached, as an effect of an unfortunate event, to the sole of my shoe?
No. Of course not. To both questions.

However, the president of the aforementioned organisation - Mr Богдан Остапович Червак - said recently that "By insulting national feelings of Ukrainians, Poles are digging the grave for Poland!".

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohdan_Czerwak

What prompted - one may wonder - Mr Czerwak to make this extraordinary ejaculation (if ejaculation is the word I want)? Unbelievable as it may sound, it was the unveiling of the Volyn Genocide Victims monument in Domostaw. Apparently. this monument insults Ukrainian national feelings and by this Poland is digging her own grave. How lovely! The nazi spawn of genocide murderers is threatening Poland. More here...



... meanwhile, whilst Germans keep exhumating dead Wehrmacht and SS soldiers without any problems in Ukraine, Poles are prohibited from giving the victims of genocide proper burial after so many years. It is most likely to do with the small, partial exhumations that once started and were immediately stopped. The number of bones of children (most of them between 1 and 6 years old, but many of 3-4 month-olds) was so staggering that no further permission for any exhumations was granted to Poland.

It is less and less surprising to me that SS-Galizien is so celebrated in today's Ukraine and that there are monuments of Bandera and Shukhevych all over the place.

As a result of recent events, involving the above as well as breaking the Polish constitution by Tusk signing the shameful Polish-Ukrainian defence agreement, I change my stance on the Russian-Ukrainian war. I no longer root for either side of it. I am now fully neutral.

What a shameful and cheap obvious war propaganda.

You people should cover yourself with your ears. What if some innocent Polish child come and read on this forum? You want to give false info to a child? To indoctrinate child? Instead to spread hope for peace and sooner as possible ending of western European and USA yoke (Drang Nach Osten) onto Slavic ie Sarmarian world.

As EU and NATO today ride Ukraine as a mad donkey, tomorrow they would try do that to Poland.

Shame on you!

Serbians for free Poland!

Reminds me abit about the past French-Germans....we were each others arch-enemies....till a few people decided to do something about it and more or less force our people together, often against their wills....after so many wars the hate was prevalent and probably would still be if a handful of people on both sides didn't just kept on ignoring the many points of discontent and all these grievances...just to try for a better future, not the next war...

It's hard, Torqi....and often I wonder how they did it, if I could had done it....I'm just glad that they did it!

Why you made Russia your arch-enemy is beyond my ability to grasp...

Through proxies or directly...Germans killing Russians again will not be forgotten in Russia for a very long time...

Your obedience to the DC warmongers is astounding and hard to explain.

Nah....never arch-enemy....that has always been France, and only France!

After WWII Germans hadn't much choice left, strictly spit into two camps....one anti-Soviet, the other pro-Soviet....

And till Putin invaded Ukraine we were practically bros!

Germany had three choices. You picked the worst one, in my opinion...no upside...only minuses...

By giving the US warmongers the middle finger Germany would become Europe's main player and save its economy, too. Without your support, this war would be a quick one - if at all...

The US went to war with itself in 186x to be whole again. No hostile foreign power was involved.

In that context, Russia is on solid ground. Yes, it's about NATO.

Exactly! Imagine if there were no such people. Imagine where the German-French relations would be today if nazi organisations were kept after WW2 and monuments of Hitler and Himmler (hailed as heroes) were still all around Germany!

The situation with Poles and Ukrainians is almost exactly the opposite. There is no problem between people - Poles accepted 2 million Ukrainian civilians with open arms, very often in their own homes. There is also no problem with Polish authorities (government or opposition) -- they all (except Konfederacja) exceed themselves in various ways to help Ukraine and Ukrainians in Poland. The problem is on Ukrainian political side - I do begin to believe that there is indeed certain measure of denazification required there.


I'm quite sure it is, but it is no longer my concern. Just let me wallow in my newly found full neutrality, BB.

*wallows*

Aaaaah, feels so good...

*wallows even more*

....that would be so much easier (and frankly Germany with it's rising energy-dependence on Russia was quite on its way) if Putin hadn't just like that decided to send it's troops into a peaceful neighbour country.

When you keep ignoring that little inconvenient fact you will never understand our reactions!


...I so understand...I'm a German, Torqi....nobody wallows better!!!! :)

:)

*high five*

....if you really think so :) *high five*

Did Poland set a limit?

If the majority of Poles closed their arms and said "hell, no", would the Polish government keep those 2 million U civilians away?

This is a classic case of I must so I will fake happy consent if not ecstasy. A milder form of the Stockholm syndrome.

Now the part you will not like...By saving women you condemned men because you prolonged the war. Dead civilians - especially women and kids - make wars shorter.


...because Germany was never at risk.

In fact, Russia always liked prosperous Germany and that pipeline your British and American friends blew up. No, it was not Russia.

...well....that has become a matter of belief, of belief in Putin's trustworthyness.....and just pure belief is for many people not enough anymore!

You know the saying: "Better safe than sorry!"...


May I ask you a question, Novi? When have you become such an expert with the german-russian relationship and the mess it often was and is? You are an USian with polish roots, I gathered?