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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 18



Novichok
31 Jan 2025  #781

Guys, knock off those stupidities. Back on topic, please.

Hey, with that war raging over your desk you should take some time off and relax....

Even the Stalingrad snipers needed to drink and joke how many krauts they offed...

pawian
31 Jan 2025  #782

that war

Phoney war. Check what it means. :):):)

pawian
31 Jan 2025  #783

What percentage of Russia's oil industry has been destroyed so far?
pawian About 15%. Why??

Novi, for you - this week`s news:
"Another refinery in flames." In one airstrike, Ukrainians destroyed 5 percent of Russian production capacity
Publication date: 30/01/2025, 19:08
David Axe
Late Tuesday evening or early Wednesday morning, Ukrainian drones struck an oil refinery in the Nizhny Novgorod region of Kstovo, central Russia, 840 km (520 miles) behind the front line in northern Ukraine. The explosions sparked a massive fire


It isn`t amasing. Isn`t it simply wonderful???

Novichok
31 Jan 2025  #784

Ukrainians destroyed 5 percent of Russian production capacity

If I were Putin I would be begging to have a meeting with Z to sign an unconditional surrender and turn over Russia to Blackstone.

Unfortunately, Putin is surrounded by the nuts who have the crazy idea to quickly repair the damage and drop a lot of shlt that goes boom on Ukraine...

Those damn Russians...They never learned how to lose existential wars...

pawian
31 Jan 2025  #785

Those damn Russians

Exactly!

johnny reb
31 Jan 2025  #786

If you visit the Chicago area, I will buy you lunch.

@ I.S.
If you are in my area I will buy you both lunch AND dinner dinner to be my buddy. Hoot !

pawian
31 Jan 2025  #787

I will buy you both lunch AND dinner dinner

Yes, you can easily afford it being a stock market mogul. While Novi can`t coz he depends on pocket money from his wife.

Miloslaw
31 Jan 2025  #788

The Russian military are pathetic and useless and the Koreans are even worse!!!



Novichok
31 Jan 2025  #789

The Russian military are pathetic and useless

How did these "pathetic and useless" Russians manage to take 20% of Ukraine, 90% of U's resources, and kill over 500,000 of the UA troops?

Also...If they are so "pathetic", why didn't the Brits, Germans, and Poles just finish them off once and for all? What's stopping you?

You know that "pathetic" and "useless" are just adjectives - the words that mean nothing and are often used in lieu of data and facts to express feelings and emotions. Right?

Picture this:

Eisenhower to Patton: Can you give me an estimate when you will take City X?

Patton: Those Nazis are pathetic and useless, Sir...

pawian
31 Jan 2025  #790

kill over

Stop lying like imperial Russians. It is useless here. You can lie to your wife in this style, not to us.

amiga500
1 Feb 2025  #791

More evidence that Russia is losing this war and that Putin's days are numbered.

You win the award for the dumbest poster on PF, instead of posting propaganda youtube rot that no one watches, and not even the NAFO bots like maf and cmf defend how about taking the time to write a paragraph backing up your viewpoint, like that propaganda video stated, that the russian army is being 'decimated'?

PolAmKrakow
1 Feb 2025  #792

@mafketis
When Ukraine runs out of men, and it will happen, what then? If as I think the war will be over by the end of June, how does it end? Anyone thinking Russia giving up any of the land they have captured is delusional. What happens id Ukraine runs out of men before a negotiated peace can take hold? It is a scenario becoming more likely by the day. Nearly three years in, with numbers of men declining by the day, Ukraine has not gotten Russia out, and people think it will happen in the future? This is not any thinking supported by rational fact evaluation.

Russia will survive, and will rebuild. Sanctions will continue to hurt them, but there is no eliminating the country. There are no movemenents within Russia to topple Putin, and until he is dead, nothing new is going to happen there. All the stories of his being on deaths door with cancer, and the economy being in dire straights are not supported by any facts coming out of Russia. Russian people are not missing out on anything, and they are becoming more wealthy due to rising wages. The time to push Russia out has passed nearly a year and a half ago.

cms neuf
1 Feb 2025  #793

End of June ? They will be 6km from Pokrovsk, still.

Decimation ? Well the original definition was to lose 10 percent of your soldiers. The NNs certainly lost that in addition to similar portions of their hardware, oil industry, half their export markets, Syria, the Caucasus and all of their status as a world power.

Trump seems to be losing interest - far easier for him to send a few emails about trans pronouns and keep quietly funding Ukraine against the drunk Nazi invaders

Alien
1 Feb 2025  #794

End of June ? They will be 6km from Pokrovsk

This is a typical war to tire the enemy out, on small sections of the front something is happening but on most of the front it is a typical trench war. Ukrainians sell cars stolen from Western Europe to Russians and everyone survives somehow.

cms neuf
1 Feb 2025  #795

Drunk NN sailors in the Med manage to set their submarine on fire

theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/01/russian-spy-ship-fire-exposes-poor-state-of-mediterranean-fleet-say-experts

Of course this rusty POS has not been serviced for years

mafketis
1 Feb 2025  #796

When Ukraine runs out of men, and it will happen, what then?

Get russia to the negotiating table and we can talk..... oh yeah.... putain just said he won't negotiate with Ukraine. So much for that idea.

Again, get russia to the table and we can talk. Until then the choices aren't war or peace (decided by Ukraine alone) the choice is self-defense or surrender.

Why do you want Ukraine to surrender?

What makes you think russia is going to negotiate unless forced?

I have no problems with negotiations... but it takes two to tango and Ukraine has to be at the table.

PolAmKrakow
1 Feb 2025  #797

@mafketis
Funny how Trump said just yesterday that the US is already talking to Russia. So what will happen is the US will apply pressure to both Ukraine and Russia. One of them will break start negotiating. If not, then the war will drag out until Ukraine is gone unless Europe steps in and thats not happening.

Who said anything about surrender? Negotiated peace in a war you cannot win by anyones calculation is just fvcking smart. I know, being smart is not Z's strong suit, but at some point someone smart close to him will have to convince him that sooner or later he is likely to be out of power so its best to save the country and himself now.

The EU is already talking about a return to Russian gas as part of the settlement to end the war. That brings Vlad to the table pretty quickly if its a reality. Does Poland really want Russia to completely take Ukraine in a war protracted out another three years to have Russia on the Polish border? The reality of Ukraine running out of men is just a fact that cannot be ignored. Eventually Russia will over run the front lines. They will let the meat grinder continue until they either wipe out Ukraine or get a negotiated peace. Thats it, only two possibilities.

mafketis
1 Feb 2025  #798

Trump said just yesterday that the US is already talking to Russia

Trump says a lot of stuff... only idiots take him at face value and use things he says as arguments (nb I prefer him to biden and harris but I don't put any faith into anything he says).

the problem is not that Ukraine is stubbornly refusing to negotiate with a russia that just wants peace.... the problems are that russia doesn't want to negotiate (yet) and that russia cannot be trusted to honor any agreement it makes so that a negotaited settlement without real security guarantees is an exercise in futility.

get russia to the table and we can talk... until then Ukraine is doing what it has to do

cms neuf
1 Feb 2025  #799

The European countries are going to return to being blackmailed every few years by drunk rapists ? Just because Trump says so ?

Maybe the corrupt small ones like Hungary - but the big ones have all taken significant steps to reduce dependence permanently

johnny reb
1 Feb 2025  #800

.. until then Ukraine is doing what it has to do

Russian Human Rights Commissioner Tatyana Moskalkova has said that Ukraine should not be seen only as an "evil empire" and described how Ukrainian soldiers shared food with residents of Russia's Kursk Oblast.
May God bless those Ukrainian soldiers for their humanity.

Ironside
1 Feb 2025  #801

Russian Human Rights Commissioner

That is a big fat oxymoron. lol!

amiga500
1 Feb 2025  #802

but it takes two to tango and Ukraine has to be at the table.

u mean America and Russia?. Ukraine will do what the yanks tell them, unfair yes but that's the reality when someone's paying for your weapons and government salaries.
Just because Trump says so ?
big ones have all taken significant steps to reduce dependence permanently

By buying ultra expensive LNG from Trump? Lolzo see the contradiction in your statement?

cms neuf
1 Feb 2025  #803

Amazingly there are other forms of energy than North Nigerian and US gas.

Ukraine will do what is in their interests, not what the US tells them. Until recently they were aligned

Novichok
1 Feb 2025  #804

I don't put any faith into anything he says).

You are correct. The border is still wide open. More migrants are coming in. Deportations are just a dream. He didn't fire anyone. He lied about tariffs. Pride flag is on the White House.

He made 72 genders official. Transgenders are welcome to enlist.

And you are a genius a class higher than me. I bow to your wisdom and knowledge.

Is every Polak a moron or just those here on PF?

BTW, what do you think about the US Army's plan to shoot migrants before they cross the US border?

Novichok
1 Feb 2025  #805

Ukraine will do what is in their interests, not what the US tells them

The US doesn't have to tell U what to do. Just starve them and tell the EU to do the same.

Before you, like a typical Polak, say again something idiotic, look up "tariffs" and how effective that tool is in the hands of the new sheriff. Yes, azhole, we can slap tariffs on the EU and the EU will fold like a cheap beach umbrella in less than an hour. See Colombia - the county that refused to take its own human garbage back.

Never been more proud of my beloved America and its big fist...Oh what a feeling...

PolAmKrakow
1 Feb 2025  #806

@cms neuf
No, France and Germany already talkjing about it. Reading comprehension.

As for what Trump says and does, he gets results. I dont have to like what he says or how he says it, but he has accomplished more in less than two weeks than Biden did in four years. Z will do what Trump tells him to, or Z will get completely cut off, and Russia will eventually take all of Ukraine. Vlad will make a deal with Trump because he knows its in his country's best interest to get back to selling gas and oil. France and Germany will begin lobbying the entire EU to buy gas and oil from Russia to help fund reconstruction of Ukraine because they cant help but wanting to return to sucking Vlad off on a daily basis.

cms neuf
1 Feb 2025  #807

France is nuclear powered - they don't give a FF about crappy North Nigerian oil

And nobody is scared of your fake ass tariffs - in 2 weeks Trump will be backtracking on that

mafketis
1 Feb 2025  #808

As for what Trump says and does

I'm very happy about a lot of things that have happened so far. Bravo!!!! Those are actions.

I prefer to pay minimal attention to his words (which go all over the place) and pay attention to actions. I'm very, very happy that Trump 2.0 is actually doing stuff right away (unlike Trump 1.0).

It hasn't gotten special attention in western media but apparently he's given Ukraine permission to hit sites deep in russia and those have been increasing lately.

x.com/rshereme/status/1885131164278472811

If he can get putain to the table... then let's talk. Until then talk about a deal is all hypothetical. And a deal without real security guarantees with teeth will simply be halftime break for russia to rearm before reattacking, so let's remember that.

Novichok
1 Feb 2025  #809

And nobody is scared of your fake ass tariffs

Once a moron, always a moron...

I have to admit that you and kutas perfected playing stupid to the level that is hard to argue with.

If he can get Putin to the table... then let's talk.

You are too stupid to be invited.

Novichok
1 Feb 2025  #810

President Donald Trump said Friday he would "absolutely" impose tariffs on the European Union, which he said had treated the U.S. "terribly."

The announcement came hours after the White House announced tariffs against Canada, China, and Mexico that were set to go into effect Saturday.


Hey, Trump, did you ask kutas if it's OK?

Who is kutas?

A PF moron who knows what you think before you do...


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