Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 19

Why not? As long as he has to face re-election in 4 years as every prez ever had to, following the democratic rules....all is as it should be!

PS: Wait....he can't be re-elected, right?

Because of the things that Bobko listed about Trump and many other things about him. The fact that Americans chose him as their president shows the bad moral condition of their society and how bad the state of American politics is. And maybe the general state of the country... Such wacky populists are usually chosen when things aren't all good, you know...


He can't, but it looks like he would like to:

theconversation.com/how-trump-could-try-to-stay-in-power-after-his-second-term-ends-246722

You forget that Lars is much younger.

He's in the part of his life, when Trump was also facing bankruptcies.

What changed Trump's life, was being picked as host for the Apprentice tv show.

Wow! Almost like being part of the "Servant of the People" tv show changed Zelensky's life.

That's it...we don't have a show like that! So, no chance for Windhorst! :)

Anyhow...till tomorrow guys and gals, 'night all! *waves*

You couldn't be more wrong.

First, we know authentic from fake. That bit*ch was as fake as a three-dollar bill.

Second, Al Capone vs Jimmy Carter for president...I would take Al every day...He would know how to keep 'hoods safe and free of migrants if they were bad for his business.

We need years to deport MS-13 thugs. Al Capone would need a couple of days to make them disappear.

Bottom line: When the US is facing an existential threat, we need the meanest SOB in the WH, not the nicest azzhole who would later voluntarily give away the US crown jewel - the canal.

I never want to hear from a US president: Yes, we got a bad deal but it was a right thing to do.

Never...

That's funny coming from you lol


You clearly don't lol


I know you would. You would also take Hitler, Stalin, Putin, etc. I know.


No, you don't. Also, the US isn't facing "an existential threat" - you're being overdramatic lol 🤦

I am never wrong.

Trump - authentic
Kamala - fake

If I had to invite three guys to dinner, I would invite them, not Mother Teresa, JP2, or Jimmy Canal Carter. I have my standards.

15,000 of foreign garbage a day is an existential threat. Genocide by migrants...Visit London...

You are wrong most of the time.


Authentic people don't lie. Trump lies.


We all know your "standards" lol 🤦


You're such a drama queen lol London didn't get wiped out from the face of the Earth as far as I know.
Immigration crisis is a crisis and may be serious, but not "existential" or a "genocide" lol

You can talk about maybe an attempt at a "genocide" when around 20% of US population gets killed and most of Washington gets leveled to the ground.

Ask American Indians what they think about your idiotic post.

Or Germans who used to live in Szczecin and Wroclaw....

Or Poles under German occupation...

😁

Ukrainians react to Trump's blackmail

bitchute.com/video/ReXQkmRPydSy

OuchWitz_Summer_Camp
I love it ... He'll be one of the ukes blowing himself up in a Us or EU market or financial center, for the next two or three decades .. The Us didn't learn a fvcking thing funding the Mujahideen and Osama

Ukroid soldiers show what they think of Trump after he berated their beloved Zelensky

bitchute.com/video/2jTiDHnzSnNG

AFU express their dissatisfaction with Trump Part 2

bitchute.com/video/uJK0DCoXAlq6

Memo to Ukrainian soldiers:

We don't give a fvck how you feel and think. Surrender and live.

The vice president also launched into a critique of one of America's closest partners.

He noted how the U.S. is losing commonality with some European states over their approach to freedom of speech.

The US should issue this ultimatum to NATO members:

Replace your shlt with the First Amendment or A5 is null and void.

We will not waste one American life or dollar defending your neofascism.

A comment from DM:

Nobody should be arrested or imprisoned for anything they say except direct and immediate threats of actual physical violence. Without free speech you cannot claim to have a democracy.

No, azzholes, you don't have "free speech" if you have "hate speech laws".

Ukrainian politicians and media have reacted with outrage and indignation following the talks between Russia and the US in Saudi Arabia this week. The response has ranged from accusing US President Donald Trump of "capitulating" to Russian President Vladimir Putin and "betraying" Ukraine, to blaming the EU for the developments.

I just talked to President Trump. He said Ukraine is free to fight for as long as it wishes.

Outrage and indignation indeed!

The problem with president Trump, from the Ukrainian point of view, is that every now and then he conducts turbo policies, makes turbo statements and even puts forward turbo demands. This, of course, causes holy outrage among Ukrainians who thought they had a monopoly on all things turbo.

One cannot help but watch all this with hefty amounts of popcorn and a beaming smile on one's face. :)

@CourtJester
We know it's you kania, why did you create a new nick? also why are you feeding the troll pavian by responding to his drivel?

No idea what you're talking about, I am merely a humble court jester.

@Paulina
What makes you such an expert that you can judge the US morality based on the election of Trump? Can Polands morality be based on the election of Tusk and his not keeping promses made to women voters on abortion? How long did you live in the US or are you another arm chair finger pointer based on some idea of moral superiority? Trump was elected by American people to do whats right for American people. Thats it, nothing more. Europe is butt hurt over the US gravy train ending and them having to be responsible for themselves. Its hard to break tradition I know, but just because it was a tradition to take advantage of the US in nearly every way, doesnt mean it was a good tradition.

Why not just leave instead of trying to strong arm Ukraine. Is the US government going into the smelting business now or is it again subsidising US owned industry?

You cant tariff your way to greatness or bluster your way to respect. All that indiscriminate swagger is a sign of weakness.

Tariffs are inflationary which is regressive in nature.

Musk talking about giving people 5000 dollars would also be inflationary (again indirect regressive taxation)

Trump was elected primarily on culture war issues (against stupid and destructive woke ideas and open borders that democrats were clinging to) but he's outsourced a lot of day to day management to Musk... who is not a person that should be in charge of a government....

Immiseration of the American middle and lower classes will continue unabated.


Trump has a _very_ fragile ego that requires constant validation.

Nonetheless there's something.... unreal about recent developments, I get the idea I'm seeing a performance a lot of the time.

I dont think its performance or if it is its unconscious. Trump just doesnt have the depth or guile to pull that off. He has taken advantage of a shift or loss of faith in the old system. Perhaps its the true outworking of the most recent financial crash, faith that housing health and wealth would result in life has been shaken and probably fatally undermined.

The slogans that are now popular (but barley understood) run counter the underlying sentiment many still profess. Free enterprise, personal responsibility etc have in practice been ditched in favour of faith in something else which is still undefined. A cheap video machine/DVD player or today the iphone was a poor reward for dismantling industrial capacity and community. The shameless about turn performed by those on the right in response to these things is not pleasant to watch and there is no satisfaction in telling people I told you so. The left have been as useless in addressing the same problems. Applying the failing tools inherited/borrowed from the right dont work but more on that later.

The same about face happened with free speech, those who were always against people expressing themselves are now champions of free expression with the sole exception of voter suppression and, it appears, choosing blue hair dye.

Your average Joe everywhere is going to suffer.

@Barney
Its called getting paid back for all the money that went to this bvllshit war. One way or another Ukraine is going to pay it back. Strong arming is what Ukraine and the EU did to the US to get this disaster of a war funded. All the bvllshit about democracy and freedom was a smoke screen for lets weaken Russia through Ukraine by way of US funding so we (EU) are not in danger because we havent prepared for anything other than globalism and illegal migration for 30 years.

@mafketis
Trump was elected bcause he is an antidemocrat, antiwoke, pro American president. He represents what the majority of Americans want. He is delivering.

The bvllshit was was started by NN.

The Europeans who have supplied more money and more arms haven't asked for anything back

How has the US been strong armed ? The aid provided for was voted for by an elected US congress

Inflation?

I'm glad he won in most ways (cause President Harris.... brrrrrrrrrrr) but tarrifs would be inflationary as would the handouts Musk floated... inflation hits middle and lower classes the hardest.

there might be good reasons for having tarrifs (especially to protect/kickstart local production or just to damage another country's economy) but I dislike being lied to or being expected to just go with slogans instead of reasoning.

Again, is the US Gov now in the mining and smelting business or do they propose using tax payers money to subsidise the rich?

I get that the cult of Trump is masochistic but this proposal runs counter to what he said on the campaign trail and the free enterprise they propose.

No, azzhole...

It's sadistic...We like to inflict pain on parasites like Euros, bureaucrats, women with dicks, migrants,...

You, full of **** moron...

From the beginning, Europeans were LOANING money to Ukrainine!!!!!

The US was GIVING money to Ukraine...

Duh!

Completely untrue of course - like most things coming out of the US for the last week

Quote:
"Russia is preparing to declare an alleged 'victory' in the war against Ukraine by the specific date - 24 February 2025, the third anniversary of the beginning of the full-scale war. Moreover, these plans may also include a 'Russian victory over NATO'."

Father Trump ended the war with just one phone call.
I guess if this is true then this thread is dead.
Any ideas what we can argue about for the next three years ?

You're one of the first people that I've seen mentioning this. Otherwise, people from both sides of the political spectrum seem to accept it as logical for the US government to be acquiring mineral licenses. The debate is instead about the morality of such a move. Nobody talks about the practical implementation.

I don't understand how it's supposed to work.

1) Will the US government create some Chinese-style state mining company, 100% owned by the USG, and just mine the minerals itself? It can call the company "The Ukrainian-American State Mining Corporation". The profits from these operations to be distributed to us taxpayers as dividends?

2) Alternatively, will the US government instead act as reseller of these licenses to American mining companies which will pay the US government 50% of the sum owed for the licenses (the other half going to Ukraine)? This seems like a perfect recipe for corruption. After Iraq, Bush and Cheney's best buddies at Bechtel and Halliburton got the fattest contracts from the occupation government. This time, it will be Trump's buddies from the mining world acquiring choice pieces of Ukrainian subsoil rights for knockdown prices from the us government.

The first option seems ridiculous. The US government has no business being a mining company. It doesn't work well in countries like Mexico and Venezuela, and only seems to work in China (half the time). This mining company will never turn a profit, but will have 80,000 employees and 120 investigations simultaneously open at the Dept. of Justice.

The second option is just openly predatory. Why introduce some middleman, in the form of the US government, to sell Ukrainian mineral licenses to American mining companies? Providing nothing of value, but still skimming 50% of the state revenues that Ukraine would have realized from the sale for itself. Is it not enough that American companies are being given priority, or even exclusive access to Ukraine's mineral riches?