Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20

There might have been such cowardly vermin in Russian history but surely they were a tiny minority. Russians are brave people.


If you are serious, then I have to say that here lies the greatest difference between our nations. A Pole kneels only before God, and all the earthly tyrants can choke on their sceptres - we p*ss on their empires with lukewarm morning urine.

Please, tell me you were joking. :-/


Apparently. Recommend 3-4 books to me, which you think are vital for understanding Russia, and I promise you I will read them.

The Government Inspector
The Gulag Archipelago
Boys in Zinc

Describes the arc of incompetence and cruelty that underpins North Nigerian history

No I am not.

Russia is Byzantium 2.0. The emperor acts as the hand of God.

After Constantinople fell, there was no more Christian Emperor. Moscow's rulers think and feel they took over this mantle. Putin, Dugin and Co. think he is the Christian Emperor.

A Christian Emperor is quite a level above a mere president. There hasn't been one since Napoleon dissolved the Holy Roman Empire and the Turks took over Byzantium.


1) Lenin "What is to be done" - 1902
2) Petr Aven "Time of Berezovsky" - 2015
3) Vladimir Sorokin "Day of the Oprichnik" - 2006
4) Pushkin "Bronze Horseman" - 1833
5) Unknown - "Tale of Igor's Campaign" - 1185

@Cms

No offence, Cms, but asking you to recommend books about Russia is like asking Crow to recommend books about Vatican.

I'd rather wait for Bobi's recommendations.

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Thank you :)

@Torq
If your host is rude, or dresses poorly that does not relieve the guest from his obligation to not be rude, or dress inappropriately. Z is a rude beggar who said in the White House that soon America would feel pain. To that he should be told to fvck off, get out and you are cut off. Same I would do to anyone coming into my office asking for money or anything else.

Now imagine at these meetings that Ukraine says yes to the mineral deal, and yes to elections once there is a cease fire. Trump calls up Vlad and tells him the news. Vlad accepts the deal and negotiations begin. Or Vlad doesnt accept the deal and Trump says ok, now Ukraine will get their intelligence back and all the missles they will need to decimate your men on the front lines. Imagine the bloodbath and imagine how Putin then looks to his own people. Or imagine Ukraine says no to the deal, and then Russia continues the slaughter in Kursk and across the front lines. Ukraine would eventually collapse.

The thought of the EU being able to build up production of items needs for self defense is pretty funny. Poland with all the empty factories and buildings in this country just ordered more tanks from South Korea. We have had three years to develop a tank factory, and nothing.

Soon we will put this clown in a cage for the world's entertainment.

Unless he is able to escape and keep broadcasting from some dark room.

Regardless he will no longer decide how the territory known as Ukraine will develop.

AmaSSing that Golden Cow gangsters pay attention to such stupidities. It proves they are imbeciles, not serious politicians.

Good.

At least South Korea won't switch off our weapon systems on a whim like Trump did with Ukrainian ATACMS IT systems support.

Seriously, PolAm, I'd be surprised if orders for American weapons didn't plummet after this. This is all so f*cking sad, it's unbelievable.

Yes, you can only laugh in helpless meltdown over that truth.

If Ukraine is the carrier of the Rus throne, then it is a very pathetic history indeed.

Absent for a thousand years, and reborn for an anemic period of civil war.

Again - hahahahaha!

Because Poland is not stupid and knows that all that talk about Russia invading Europe is nonsense.

There is no other explanation. When the words don't match action, somebody is a liar or a reckless idiot.

Now, with two big oceans for protection, why the US makes tanks is a mystery equal to how life began or what is at the end of the Universe - just a sign, a wall, or a steep drop...

begging putin.... such a comedown for a superpower....


What on earth makes you think any russian cares about russian soldiers getting killed?

Really, what bit of evidence over the past three years makes you think that?

Maybe start with Musk, won't you?


Same here. And Musk is safer with his Starlink but who knows?

Perhaps not that much safer...

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A good couple years on PF.

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Wow, the anniversary is this week :)



In case we don't see each other on Thursday...

For he's a jolly good fellow, 🎶
For he's a jolly good fellow, 🎶
For he's a jolly good fellow, 🎶
Which nobody can deny, 🎶
Which nobody can deny, 🎶
Which nobody can deny! * 🎶


"The Age of Berezovsky" is available to download for free...

petr-aven-books.com/

... and Sorokin's book is already on its way to me. I'll get the ancient stuff later. Thanks again.

* - shut up, Pawian

Musk is not in the White House to beg. He is there to save this country without being paid a dime.

All the contracts Tesla has with the US were signed under Biden.

True. He is there to have some fun. Try something new, different.


I think Trump with Musk managed to really **** off Europe.

I am so proud of you. You should kick the US out and remove the WH number from your smartphones.

I didn`t intend to comment anyway. :):):)

Trump is too weak to stand up to adversaries, he's been too busy alienating allies for that.

Classic weak person syndrome.

...especially after he got "shot"...He is still there, pretending ...

I noticed that every time I get nice and mellow, some POS on PF reminds me that it is stupid.

Thanks, kutas...

If being objective means being pro-Russian then write me to the club, too.


You didn`t notice Russia`s historical tendency to sooner or later intervene if existence of Serbia is threatened? Russia share that tendency with Poland.

Why?

Because Russia and Poland acknowledge Serbia`s spiritual importance for entire Slavic world. The original core must exist and shine. See, it proves that Russia isn`t selfish and let Serbia lead. Same as Poland. So, Serbia lead.

Welcome to the club then! *handshake*


What have I been saying many times on this board? I've been saying that Serbia is the heart of Slavia and that every Slav in the world should take obligatory holidays in Serbia every couple of years to restore his soul to original factory settings. You are preaching to the converted, Crow. :)

I am your fan with a good reason. You are wise.


Your every word is golden.

Don't be ridiculous. You seem to be naive only when it comes to Russia.
While the US talks about democracy and its values and when Russia talks about NATO and the need to defend itself, it is all BS.
It is about power and projection of power. Simple.
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I liked that meme with Zelensky weeping - and then they grabbed me by the pussy. lol!
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Indeed, or like as was saying everybody in Russia is a helot except for the Imperator.
There is a problem with it, in Poland even if there is an Imperator you never go on your knees.
Citizens have rights, and we can only go on our knees before God.
I think Russians have a difficulty grasping it/comprehending it.
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You completely missed his point. i.e. Poland should be an independent producer of munitions as much as possible.

Thanks - the fandom's mutual. :)


We Slavs despise false modesty, so I won't deny your words, poštovani i plemeniti brate.




I said that first! :)

And totally agree about developing our own weapons.

Yes, because the US has that corrupt monstrosity aka the MICC. Russia does not. It's 800B vs 80B in military budgets.


The US should shut the fvck up about "democracy" since we don't have it.

Elections every four years do not make the US a democracy. The USSR had those, too.

Yes. A weird outcome of the war is no one will trust any other countries weapons... bye bye international arms sale.

But then the weapons that count most day to day are drones. And Ukraine is now the world leader in drone warfare (it's not remotely close).

Will they want to share any of this with Washington? Why should they?

They are like the mob. When they cry and make threats it is just intimidation, they are powerless.
It's when they are friendly or when they want to "make peace" that you have to be worried because you can be sure that they will backstab you.