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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20
Torq
17 Mar 2025 #752
1) Tsiolkovsky (...) 5) Krzhizhanovsky
That you can name 11 or so nicknames for Ukrainians but only 5 Poles who helped build Russia is equally sad as scandalous. There are volumes written about how Poles created Russia...





... brother Mariusz and sister Violetta are wise - true children of Slavia. Acquaint yourself with their work, brate.
jon357
17 Mar 2025 #753
Przewalski's
The same.
A very special person, a Pole and sad that the reality of his time meant that he had to deal with orcs.
Ironically, he would be at risk in today's r*SSia due to his sexuality.
PolAmKrakow
17 Mar 2025 #754
@Torq
Lol I am glad you think its time. The nukes were kept in good order and not at a small expense. You think French and UK nukes can protect the EU from Russia? Please. Missile defense systems would be useless in less than ten minutes.
The US spere of influence? You mean like how the EU has fvcked the US in every trade deal, and US presidents bent over and said thanks, whos next?
The US did not buy tanks, but the US has wholely supported Poland to say otherwise is simply a lie. The US has sold the absolute best fighter planes to Poland and others, and its not the US country thats making the money. Where would the EU be without US made weapons, and where will it go if the US kits the kill switch if the EU abandoned the dollar and all those missiles bcome useless?
While I appreciate your protectionist stance for Poland, I genuinely do, your stance on the EU wears rose colored glasses. You do not understand the US way of thinking, and that is the root of things. If you think the US bent countries over, and I agree in some cases, imagine how fvcked the world would be if the US had not bent some of them over. Imagine the jihadists in Europe, and make no mistake, they are here, and more coming. This is the globalist European agenda for the last 15 years. Who do you think can help stop that agenda?
Przelotnyptak1
17 Mar 2025 #755
so hostile about China who could crash their economy in a day.
If China is so enormously assertive and the US so aggressive and weak, why don't they use their crunching power? Oh, I see. The Chinese are so friendly and benevolent. All that is left to do is shake my head in disbelief. Where is your bottomless hatred coming from? It is time to kneel and take down a peg, your irresponsible ranting. You never had a better friend; all the US is trying to do is to stop European piglets from from suckling us to oblivion.
mafketis
17 Mar 2025 #756
Bulgaria and the Baltics are not Trump's to grant.
Neither are they russia's.
Crow
17 Mar 2025 #757
My dear veneric friends and fans, good evening.
Today`s wisdom... strictly on topic, .. Humans are kind of monkeys and so, to rule them, world elite magnates, even good guys, using sometimes brutal methods.
jon357
17 Mar 2025 #758
why don't they use their crunching power?
They think long term. Very.
They're already ahead of the world in computing power and most of Africa (with its precious metals, industrial diamonds and minerals) are essentially theirs.
If you look at the ownership of new real estate investments in your country, you would be surprised and of course Mandarin is now the second language spoken in Australia and a dew other places.
Przelotnyptak1
17 Mar 2025 #759
With climate change especially,
Jon, you finally are waking up to reality; you are taking your blinders off, and you finally discover the killer of our climate, the dirtiest culprit, benevolent China.
Can I expect,you to apply for permission to polish some orange balls? :::)))That would be priceless
jon357
17 Mar 2025 #760
finally discover the killer of our climate, the dirtiest culprit, benevolent China.
If anything, the 1920-1990 age of automobiles set it all off.
Didn't trumpet walk away from the Paris international climate protocols twice?
Anyway; China is rising fast and America is sinking right now.
To keep closer to the topic, the matter of r*SSia is something that Europe must sort out ourselves. Be aware though that this isn't good news for American defence manufacturers, tech suppliers, communications companies or anyone else over there.
pawian
17 Mar 2025 #761
but only 5 Poles who helped build Russia is equally sad as scandalous.
This inferiority complex might turn into some huge mental problem for you if not treated. Talk about it with your psychiatrist!!!
Crow
17 Mar 2025 #762
Back to reality - Conference in Polish language
Moment when Serbia intervened and gave guaranties to Russia for Poland >
Vesko Vukovic
17 Mar 2025 #763
@Crow
The reason that the Russians don't trust the Poles is because they see them as servants of the sinister Vatican.
pawian
17 Mar 2025 #764
see them as servants of the sinister Vatican.
Only that??? This means Russians are suffering from paranoia. Not only barbarians but psychos as well! We are truly lost.
:):)
Crow
17 Mar 2025 #765
The reason that the Russians don't trust the Poles is because they see them as servants of the sinister Vatican.
But we Serbians knows better. Poles have middle finger for the Pope.
Przelotnyptak1
17 Mar 2025 #766
If anything, the 1920-1990 age of automobiles set it all off.
Not important what and when today Jon is what's real.
Przelotnyptak1
17 Mar 2025 #767
Didn't trumpet walk away from the Paris international climate protocols twice?
Vere smarts a perceptive move,the fricken Euros had the traps set and ready to go, ready to milk America some more.Tank you
vise man
Trump
Anyway; China is rising fast and America is sinking right now.
Very perceptive of you to notice the unexplainable phenomenon of America sinking like a helium balloon:::)))
Velund
18 Mar 2025 #768
How about the cold war?
As one of the smart people said - a service already provided is worthless. Prostitutes face this all the time.
Torq
18 Mar 2025 #769
While Ukraine suffers, agent Trumpov continues his work...
france24.com/en/live-news/20250315-trump-freezes-voa-radio-free-asia-radio-free-europe
... for the glory of Russia, for the glory of China.
PolAmKrakow
18 Mar 2025 #771
@Torq
For the glory of saving US taxpayer money while stoping the far left globalist propaganda.
@Velund
Great point. Europe has essentially been fvcking the US for decades and now when the US wont do what Europe demands, Europeans forget who they were fvcking.
JD Vance says nukes to Poland from the US unlikely. And thats good news. Putting nukes in Poland would be a mistake and would almost certainly guarantee WW3. Poland just needs to continue building its military and re-arming. Everyone in Poland who is able bodied should learn the basics of shooting, and defense. There should be no upward age limits on this either. I know plenty of men in their 50's and 60's who could and would fight for Poland. Plenty of older smart men and women who could serve in many positions of support.
Torq
18 Mar 2025 #772
For the glory of saving US taxpayer money while stoping the far left globalist propaganda.
LOL
Sure, that's why China is delighted, and Chinese trolls rejoice all over the internet, because Trump stops "far left" propaganda. xD
Everyone in Poland who is able bodied should learn the basics of shooting, and defense.
So you can throw us at Russians, like you threw Ukrainians? When the fight to the last Ukrainian stops, it will be time for the fight to the last Pole. Brilliant plan, to which I have only one reply: "f*ck off". :)
Of course, Poland should build strong Territorial Defense, based on the Swiss model, but the American approach to it all seems increasingly suspicious.
jon357
18 Mar 2025 #773
Not important
Pretty damn important since that's when the Anthropocene damage started and became out of control.
fricken Euros had the traps set and ready to go, ready to milk America some more
Cobblers. Your country makes good money from its relations with Europe. Or did until they started being arsey with tariffs.
America sinking
How are your financial markets doing?
cms neuf
18 Mar 2025 #774
I'm fine with the territorial defense - especially now they say we are getting paid for it !
But knowing how to clean small arms isn't going to be very helpful against tanks and planes, even if they are North Nigerian rustbuckets
That's why Poland needs its own nukes - the US is quite clear now that they won't defend us any more
Torq
18 Mar 2025 #775
That's why Poland needs its own nukes - the US is quite clear now that they won't defend us any more
Precisely.
jon357
18 Mar 2025 #776
But knowing how to clean small arms isn't going to be very helpful against tanks and planes
Especially since francs-tireurs are always executed on the spot.
PAK just wants other places to make the same mistakes as his country does with guns and there is a thread here that demonstrates that.
That's why Poland needs its own nukes
Quite. And there's no reason they should source them from the Americas. There are two countries in Europe with the capacity to make nukes (one of whom invented them) and both countries have strong relations with Poland.
In fact Poland could probably manufacture its own given a decent lead time. Polish scientists have worked with countries (notably South Africa) in manufacturing nukes and Poland has a strongish manufacturing base.
amiga500
18 Mar 2025 #777
. Putting nukes in Poland would be a mistake and would almost certainly guarantee WW3
Be quiet yank. We'll swap them for a a hundred thousand polish virgins with Pakistan.
jon357
18 Mar 2025 #778
Be quiet yank
One lesson he's never learnt.
a hundred thousand polish virgins
They tried to have a nativity plays in Warsaw but couldn't go ahead. They couldn't find three wise men and a virgin...
amiga500
18 Mar 2025 #779
They couldn't find three wise men and a virgin...
hahaha that's a good one!
Belarus got nuclear weapons without a murmur so why should Poland not have equal access as it's western peer?
PolAmKrakow
18 Mar 2025 #780
@amiga500
Firstly because the US will not give them one. Followed by there is no Uranium or Plutonium in Poland after the USSR mined it all for their own nukes. No place to test a nuke in Poland either. As for Belarus getting Russian nukes, Belarus doesnt control them.
So you can throw us at Russians, like you threw Ukrainians?
WTF are you talking about? Ukraine threw themselves at Russia, not the US. Now you can fvck off.