Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 21

The facts on the ground while not ideal certainly give some strong cards to Ukraine

The NNs are unable to take any territory.

Sanctions and low oil price are having a drastic effect on the north Nigeria economy

Ukraine still occupies parts of North Nigerian territory and is now well dug in

Great weaponry continues to arrive from Europe

Ukraine is able to hit far behind North Nigerian lines and continues to destroy ammo and fuel dumps

World opinion is solidly behind Ukraine, except for some old, bitter nut jobs in Ohio.

If they want to surrender, they can do that on their own - why do they need Golden Cow as an intermediary?

I think EU was funding some projects before we actually entered the union. The IT classes in my school were funded that way.

the EU invested in brainwashing projects. So many people are being brainwashed by the EU and dazzled by their funds. It is pathetic how foolish people are.

Sure, people needed to be brainwashed to think that being part of a peaceful, prosperous and democratic Europe was a good idea... .

That's what the EU is for. It's simply more prosperous and better organized than anything we could craft in our region. And it has the added benefit of lowering interstate tensions. After all, it managed to ensure a longlasting peace between Germany and France.

To you, chicken chit in your breakfast is a mystery. Simple merhapor by Boby unbreakable enigma

This is what is in Ukrainian papers these past two days. That is, "if we have to violate all our own red lines and sign in effect an unconditional surrender, then we do not need Trump's help for that."

Now - I am a logical person - so I will concede to the Ukrainians this point.

However, I would not be me if I did not point out at the same time some holes in this approach.

1) NOW - you have the US. Yes its a raw deal, yes its not pleasant, yes it will be difficult to sell to the electorate, yes it probably means the end of Zelensky's political career - BUT, you have a chance to fix your losses at the presently knowable and digestible level.

2) LATER - you enter uncharted territory without US support. Maybe Europe will pull a rabbit out of the hat, and save your ass through some titanic effort. Maybe they will fall flat on their face, and dump you - just a little bit later than the Americans did. At that point, you will be alone with your naked ass hanging in the wind. Nobody knows what will happen. Optimists might argue that there's still a chance to liberate all the occupied territories. Pessimists would say, that there's a very real risk of losing the whole match. I think neutral outside observers would tend towards the POV of the pessimists.

Finally - this is not just an exercise in game theory. As Trump says - every week that goes by more than 5,000 Russians and Ukrainians perish. They should have their vote too. Do Ukrainian soldiers, after three years with no rotations, no rest, and no clue on how and when they will get out - want to continue dying in order to prevent Russia from taking over the bombed out landscapes that they retreated from? I read what they write every day - and I can tell you the majority wants the war to end. On the Russian side - the absolute majority wants the war to end. There are very few maximalists left that espouse "Kiev or Bust" views.

Do you know what Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, and Chelmno had in common other than that those were German death camps worse than Auschwitz?

It was a cheerful participation of Ukrainians. These mother fvckers were even worse than the German SS in their cruelty. Shooting little girls in the head was too much even for your fathers and grandfathers. You know...PTSD...and nightly horror dreams that never end...

Poland should join Russia in giving them hell today. Instead, Polish morons hug them like brothers... Azzholes...

The rawest thing about the deal is that Putler would just break it anyway.

It is unnecessary to surrender now, and as I put in my previous post, many aspects favor Ukraine.

I don't know if 5000 soldiers are dying per week. If they are then I would guess 90 percent are North Nigerians, they are all volunteers so know what they are getting in to.

It's not a "match" or a game of cards - it is an invasion by murderers who kill civilians deliberately just to make a point, and because they are unable to hit Ukraine's superior, better trained, sober soldiers.

History teaches us each time Russia devours Ukraine, we're next. Why would we help Russia bring forth our demise?

Only morons don't learn from history.

...speaking to morons who already said that dying for "freedom and democracy" is the greatest honor ... for the other guys....We will just post our "support" here where it's safe ...
and very far away from killing fields where it's worth to die for "freedom and democracy"...for the other guys, not me...because I am busy expressing my support for them...on the internet...every day...

On March 28th, yet another exchange of bodies happened.

We handed over to the Ukrainians the bodies of 909 of their servicemen.

They handed us back 43 bodies.

This is almost a ratio of 20:1. The ratio has always been skewed very heavily in our favor, during the dozens of past exchanges.

Now... the Ukrainians write daily that the "Russians do not care about their own. They leave them to rot in the fields." If this is the case, then why can't Ukraine do a better job of collecting Russian bodies for the trades?

Furthermore, if we are such orcs and beasts, how do you explain then that we do a better job collecting Ukraine's dead than they do for ours? If they kill so many Russians - what do they do with their bodies? Incinerate them? Not very Christian... that.

I am not a believer in either side's propaganda. I think the ratio of losses is close to 50/50, though some past episodes were definitely lopsided in favor of Ukraine (Bakhmut), and others in favor of Russia (2023 Summer Offensive).

Russia invaded Ukraine with 150,000 men, but Ukraine now claims that we have suffered losses in excess of 945,000. Neither the Americans, or the British, or the Germans treat these Ukrainian numbers with any kind of trust.

Source for bodies exchange:

kyivindependent.com/ukraine-brings-back-bodies-of-over-900-fallen-soldiers/

What do they need the German EU for? It is a big obstacle, making life difficult for the people.
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Moscow is making big threats about nukes, and they are attacking Kyiv, talking big. They must be very weak, knowing them.

I would prefer 200 to 1.

Yes, I know...I am a mean SOB...


Only Switzerland is democratic. The rest are pretend "democracies" - the US included.

Democracy - a system which allows the majority to overrule the government via a legally-binding referendum.

All else is bullshlt...In "communist" Poland, we were allowed to vote every four years, too...

Why would you say 20:1 when you can say 2000:1? Both are equally likely to be true. Be ambitious!

The US, with the nukes and all, lost 58,000 men and the war. Those two can coexist.

Your source doesn't mention anything about the 20:1 ratio.

Anyway it is obvious to the whole world that NN is losing way more soldiers. I don't know how many of the 150.000 from 2022 have still got two arms and two legs but probably not many - there have been fresh call ups every month since then, including imprisoned rapists, North Korean slaves, penniless Nepalese, naive Africans who though they were going to flip burgers in St Petes, and Russell Bentley. Strangely though, the children of the North Lagos elite often avoid their patriotic duty.

Jesus Christ... I didn't realize. I was looking for an English language source to make things easy for folks and just pasted the first one I saw that I thought would satisfy Paulina's requirements on information hygiene.

Here's Radio Free Europe, not trying to be a propagandist outlet like the Kiev Independent. It actually features the Russian dead.

Source: svoboda.org/amp/rossiya-i-ukraina-obmenyalisj-telami-pogibshih-voennosluzhaschih/33389365.html

So yes Korvinus - 20:1 and not pulled out of my ass.

I'm not saying the overall ratio is 20:1, just asking why it is that Russians are so much better at locating and shipping over Ukrainian bodies in comparison to the Ukrainians.

Trump is apparently displeased with putin.... and made post on his platform

x.com/kaitlancollins/status/1915382701357510978

Of course this will just encourage russia to launch more attacks on civilians (russian specialty).

Will Trump ever learn how to deal with russians?

You would be a moron that you are without that NN shlt. No upside...

You are punching air...

They are so bad at it...They should take lessons from the US and our experience in K, V, and I.

Memo to Russia: Come up with a good BS line and get better...Like "We kill for freedom and democracy wherever it needs an improvement - even if the locals don't ask for it"

I mean...man...Only 13,000 dead civilians in three fvcking years!!! What's the matter with you, you damn war criminals!!!

Is taking kids from the war zone to the safety of Russia not enough??? Nuremberg!!!

please, tell me how to deal with Russians, especially having in mind that they have nukes - and that Putin is probably getting somewhat paranoid when his country is not really in a good shape

That was mean...Gman...

First.... get more nukes than russia has (Trump has this).

Then say they stop attacking or you'll drop a bomb on Moscow.

The first round of russian nuke scare tactics stopped (according to Zeihan) when the information was back-channeled to russia that they _always_ know where putin is and if russia uses a nuke their first target won't be the russian military but putin personally.... that stopped the threats very quickly.... but later waffling encouraged them to start up again...

And do we even know if russian nukes are.... real? It's not a culture that's big on maintenance and almost everybody who knew how to run them has retired or died....

@Novichok

to be honest, Novi, I don't understand Putin: Trump's idea of how to end this war is largely favourable to him, yet he keeps bombing Ukrainian cities, doesn't really keep truce during Easter and generally it doesn't look like he's satisfied with Trump's peace plan - you need to know that Russia has practically drained its financial reserves (they had 600 billion dollars in foreign currency reserves (not counting gold from what I can gather - but they managed to sold over half of their gold as of a month ago) -and in recent months they have accumulated 20 per cent inflation and are bracing for food crisis because of last year's severe autumn drought) - so, yeah: colour me perplexed

Putler doesn't know that the financial reserves are drained

He doesn't know that inflation is 20 percent

It might be 10 years since he had an unscripted conversation with a regular North Nigerian citizen

He is told every night that military actions are successful

Of course he wants to continue

well, I understand you are a brave soul, but you know nukes when they work properly are capable of killing millions in a single blast - have you asked those millions in say Warsaw, Berlin or New York if they are ready to die at the altar of freedom - or maybe even if they are ready to take a gamble that Russian nukes are rusty and leaked all uranium years ago


I'm pretty sure he talks to his national bank head and his finance minister - if anyone doesn't know the state of Russian finances it's the unwashed Russian masses

He doesn't want peace.
He wants to hold onto power (and peace is the biggest risk to him).
He doesn't care what happens to russian citizens.
They can sit in the dark and eat rocks for all he cares (it's not like they're gonna rise up against him).


If Ukrainians bringing the fight into russia weren't the red line.... then what is?

I think if he uses a nuke it will be against russia itself (late hitler vibes).

sure, it's a no-brainer - but can you explain to me how extending the war prevents Putin from losing power? - I'm open to logical argumentation

Serbians are very very lucky people. Only people on this Earth loved by Poles and Russians, at the same time. Loved without jealousy. Sublimation of care of our brethren. Focus of their deeper understand. Point of their mutual balance. Esoteric force for them. Idolatry to their females. Pride of their males.

Serbs.