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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 22



Novichok
16 May 2025  #331

russians are never happy, they only live to make others miserable..

I see the method...Make a post soooo off-the-chart stupid that it chokes opponents into silence...

Memo all: We have a new Master Debater so the competition is over. Goebbels would love to have you on his team...

cms neuf
16 May 2025  #332

Did the Swedes have drones and missiles that could hit North Lagos ?

Velund
16 May 2025  #333

It is Russia who broke into Ukraine's house.

It was banderites from the west who tried to broke to russian houses in Donbass for the start.

Torq
16 May 2025  #334

tried to broke to russian houses in Donbass for the start

You tried to take Kiev and you bomb Lvov - is that Donbass too?

No side can claim 100% moral superiority in this war but at the moment you must admit that it's Russia that's the aggressive side who doesn't want peace.

Velund
16 May 2025  #335

who doesn't want peace.

We doesn't want just ceasefire. If you have real peace - wrap two for us..

Torq
16 May 2025  #336

wrap two for us

We can even wrap three, maybe four, but your delegation for peace talks wants eleven.

Novichok
16 May 2025  #337

Russia that's the aggressive side who doesn't want peace.

Just as the US didn't want peace in WW2. It wanted surrender and victory. Then to hang war criminals...

Good USA...Only losers want peace...

Crow
16 May 2025  #338

People, you know, its clear now, 11th September was just the part of the Game of Thrones. Glitch in the matrix. Consequence of the eternal war among elite that spilled over to mere mortals.

So this in Ukraine, too.

What not, what not, who knows what

mafketis
16 May 2025  #339

news flash: russian officers get russian soldiers killed (after beating, torturing and stealing from them).

details here:

x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1923436271117984070

Nothing very new here (the russians for sure know all this is going on and don't care at all).

Miloslaw
16 May 2025  #340

Nothing very new here (the russians for sure know all this is going on and don't care at all).

That's the Russian way.Nothing new here.They are barbarians.

Miloslaw
16 May 2025  #341

Yet another video for the Russian ar$e lickers on PF.To show how Russia is losing this war.



Novichok
16 May 2025  #342

That's the Russian way.Nothing new here.They are barbarians.

I just visited a mental hospital..the Department of Incurable Imbeciles...where I may end up if I spend too much time with people like you, cymes, kutasinski, Kurwysyn, Barney, and Tacitus.

I went there to tell them that trans women are not women so there is not point in looking for a vagina when you date one.

Then I asked what they thought about Russians. I got many opinions. None of them included "barbarians". They said that even imbeciles know that Russians are not "barbarians".

Time to grow up Milo or at least to look up "barbarians".

Miloslaw
16 May 2025  #343

@Novichok

You look it up....Barbarians - a word that today often refers to uncivilized people or evil people.

Which sums up Russians.

I just visited a mental hospital..the Department of Incurable Imbeciles...where I may end up

You soon will and will be happy living with your fellow imbeciles who are too stupid to realise that Russians are barbarians!

Novichok
17 May 2025  #344

Which sums up Russians.

Brits are cretins.

Need proof?

Torq
17 May 2025  #345

Si vis pacem para bellum, and all that...

youtu.be/EV153ctDv0c?si=UBX0rXe7qK8IZXJT

... apart from all the other things, I really count on the nuclear deal with the French mentioned in the video.

Ironside
17 May 2025  #346

You are paying

That is a problem. What exactly are we paying and what are we getting in return for it?
Seems to me as usual our lousy politicians made lousy deals. Why don't they pay it from their own money.

Another thing they keep all the relevant information semi-secret. Talking about a democratic society and democracy while they behave like Putin in this regard. So what's the difference?

mafketis
17 May 2025  #347

what are we getting in return for it?

keeping russia away from the Polish border? Do you want Ukraine to continue fighting or do you want Poland to have to fight? I don't see a third option... if you think Poland can deal with russia like a sensible country.... not gonna happen....

the relevant information semi-secret.

The idea of state secrets is legitimate... I like the new German policy of not going into specifics.... a recurring Ukrainian complaint was they would ask for something that could be effective and by the time western cowards got around to supplying it it wasn't as effective as it would have been

Novichok
17 May 2025  #348

keeping russia away from the Polish border?

You are a genius...Russian rockets can fly only 20 km and then turn into dust.

BTW, did you measure the distance from Baghdad to Washigton? It's 6200 miles but it sure didn't stop the US from invading Iraq.

Think before you post your stupid one-liners. Like: We have to fight them there so we won't have to fight them here...No, we don't...

My favorite why the US went to war with Germany: So we won't have to speak German.

Some poor morons bought that shlt...

Torq
17 May 2025  #349

Do you want Ukraine to continue fighting or do you want Poland to have to fight?

Hmm... I'm having second thoughts. In certain circumstances strong Ukraine can be a threat to Poland (maybe even more so than Russia).

If the war ends now, with Trump in office and Orban blocking Ukrainians from entering the EU, Ukraine would be ruined without any major outside help and too weak to threaten Poland. If the war stretches until a Democrat president is in office and Orban is out, and if Ukraine manages some sort of victory (Finland-style but still), we can have a very uncomfortable rival and a threat on our eastern border (and one such threat is more than enough, we don't need another).

So, perhaps the peace on Russian terms wouldn't be such a bad thing for Poland.

*goes to his strategic armchair to analyze variants*

mafketis
17 May 2025  #350

the peace on Russian terms wouldn't be such a bad thing for Poland

Look at what the Stalinites are doing in Austria, Hungary, Slovakia, Bulgaria, trying to do in Romania.... really think they want to leave Poland alone?

You're afraid of Ukraine invading Poland? What precisely?

Novichok
17 May 2025  #351

Hey, moorns, it's simple...The more U fights, the closer the Russian army gets to Poland. Duh! Slowly but surely...

Before Feb 2022, Russians were far. Today they are closer. Even a homeless NY bum on drugs gets it.

Not the Polish geniuses on PF and in Warsaw.

I have an idea...Try to reverse Wisla...You will be just as successful...

Torq
17 May 2025  #352

You're afraid of Ukraine invading Poland? What precisely?

I wouldn't use the word 'afraid'. It would be more precise to say that as a strategist (an amateur one, but still) I am calculating variants, and in a couple of those variants Ukraine can become a threat to Poland economically, politically and even militarily. Let's not forget that there are certain circles in Ukraine who not only celebrate Waffen-SS divisions and praise murderers of Poles and Jews, build monuments and museums dedicated to them, but also claim parts of Poland (with cities like Przemyśl, Chełm and Rzeszów) - what they call Закерзоння - as their ethnically Ukrainian territories...

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... you may argue that those circles have little political influence but portraits of Bandera and UPA-OUN flags hanging in offices of many ruling politicians and local authorities in Ukraine are somewhat disquieting and force me as a strategist (an amateur one but still) to take it into consideration.

Novichok
17 May 2025  #353

If you are trying to prove that Poles are political idiots you are too late.

It was done in August 1944 and many times after that...I suspect before Katyn, too...

Torq
17 May 2025  #354

If you are trying to prove that Poles are political idiots

What's with your reading comprehension, Ryszard? I am calculating variants in which your president is a genius and accepting Russian peace terms by Ukraine is desirable for Poland and the world. You should be supporting me at the moment. Do pay attention.

Novichok
17 May 2025  #355

What you write is too sophisticated.

Ukraine is a deadman walking ... on the last American dollars.

Poland is safe even if doesn't spend a penny on arms because it is on US mil welfare and Russia wants Poland as much as I want to be bitten by a cobra.

Russia will win because it defends Russia and it hates losing regardless of cost. See Germany for references.

US should never be in this war and will butt out soon because it's broke and the next elections are only 18 months from now. "It's Trump's war" will not help RINOs very much...

There..The world according to me.

mafketis
17 May 2025  #356

Ukraine can become a threat to Poland economically, politically

You just justified German policy toward Poland for about 10 years before and after Poland joined the EU....

you may argue that those circles have little political influence but portraits of Bandera and UPA-OUN

New monuments to Stalin should concern you more.... who killed more Poles (directly and indirectly)?

x.com/visegrad24/status/1923458077753225589

x.com/ORuscism/status/1921297634699985181

x.com/JamesPorrazzo/status/1870453528990519410

x.com/upholdreality/status/1852835022568341772

Novichok
17 May 2025  #357

New monuments to Stalin should concern you more

On the scale of 0 to 100 (100 being imminent death)... What is your concern?

Remember...There was only one case of a man who has risen from the grave so get your underwear out of you ass and chill out...Stalin ain't coming back...Too many LGBT freaks...

mafketis
17 May 2025  #358

Some good news today... it seems Vladimir Nedoshivin, one of those behind the creation of Iskander missiles had turned into a useless old alcoholic. A neighbor, a plumber by trade took exception to this and things came to blows and a fall down the stairs and now Nedoshivin is dead as a broken vodka bottle....

x.com/LXSummer1/status/1923663054006301138

Will we simple people in the west ever understand the mysterious russian dusha? I hope not....

Alien
17 May 2025  #359

dead as a broken vodka bottle....

Give him a medal.

Crow
17 May 2025  #360

there are certain circles

not only celebrate Waffen-SS divisions and praise murderers of Poles and Jews, build monuments and museums dedicated to them, but also claim parts of Poland

See, same circle are behind genocide on Serbians, and desire to steal land from us.

Those same circles.


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