Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 28

To paraphrase a anti-brexit slogan.
Not every VPN user is a pedophile, but every pedophile is a VPN user.

Yeah....but "its the economy, stupid".....and here things are about to change:


reuters.com/world/europe/eu-prepares-finalisation-ukraine-loan-new-russia-sanctions-cyprus-says-2026-04-22/


At the same time as the data for the russian economy don't look so good (at least those coming out of it):


ca.news.yahoo.com/russia-faked-economic-data-appear-110447697.html

Oily rain, oily rain
I only want to see russians
Cyring in black rain...

Ukraine has pretty much destroyed the oil facilities in tuapse on the russian Black Sea coast.

Fires are ongoing and oil has been spewing into the air, an oil slick has formed in the Black sea (7 kilometers or so) oil is covering everything as heavy rain made the problem worse

The government seems to determined to ignore all of this...

x.com/albafella1/status/2046927009654173916

Residents of tuapse are whining about what did they do wrong?

Карма может быть прекрасна (Karma can be beautiful)

Rich,why is that relevant in this war?Ukraine is outsmarting Russia at every turn!


Ukraine will get them back.

Russia is fvcked part 130.



HaHaHaHa!!! You Russians and Russophiles are just pathetic with your beliefs from Russian propaganda.

Russia is fvcked part 131...... give up now, before Russia is decimated......

pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/04/22/8031314/

North Nigerian officals are sent out on a tree planting exercise while an oil refinery burns behind them. Brilliant photos that sum up the NN mindset.

russia continues its anti-vpn campaign, this time threatening to break the necks of old people who don't comply....

x.com/visegrad24/status/2046226704016843059

I think we all already know that Russia is losing and will lose the war against Ukraine.

But here is another example why...Russia is fvcked part 132.



And so it goes on...... Ukrainian victories and Russian losses, it goes on and on....

Russia is fvcked part 133.

How much more evidence do you Russians and Russophiles need to prove to you that Russia is losing this war???

Russia will be fvucked for at least a decade after this idiotic invasion.

Russia is fvcked part 134.

You fundamentally misunderstand the russian mentality.... evidence to you and me is not evidence to them. Evidence is what the government tells them that they believe.

The very few who might have more active minds learn to self-censor and go along with the herd.

Meanwhile, russian technological splendor in full rot....

x.com/visegrad24/status/2047392592896114986

That is brilliant ! Love the Ukrainians trolling of North Nigeria

You see, Milo... we - incorrigible Russophiles - understand one thing about the Russian-Ukrainian war. We see clearly that Russia considers the outcome of this conflict as critically essential to their strategic interests. You may disagree, you may hate the methods, the violence and the disregard for international law, and we can sit here and talk about all this for another 4 years, but it won't change the fact that Russia doesn't give a flying f*ck if it takes them to recover after this war, or two decades, or a century. They don't care that they will have to rebuild their oil refineries, replace all the destroyed tanks, artillery and planes, and mourn all the dead soldiers - they see this war as too important for them to lose.

Do you know what kind of sacrifices Russians are ready for? Does the name Rhzev say anything to you?

*sighs*

You and Maf need to learn some history... and it wouldn't hurt either if you at least tried to understand our enemies, because it is not very likely that we can win this war if we are not willing to sacrifice as much as Russia is willing to.

And Ukraine doesn't?

Staring with our dignity?

Please note, the russian leadership is not sacrificing anything and doesn't ask the population to. It simply destroys their quality of life and they're expected to keep their mouths shut

Not a model worth emulating.

It does. They, however, are weaker and would have been defeated a long time ago if it hadn't been for our help.

So, we get back to the original question - are we willing to sacrifice as much for Ukraine as Russia is?


Of course not. But it is what it is. We are dealing with an enemy determined to win - do we have equal determination?

How come ? The North Nigerians have been defeated militarily many times - by Japan, Finland, by Germany in WW1, by Afghans, Malians and of course by Poles.

What makes this time different ? They are just as hopeless as always - disorganized, badly equipped, poorly commanded and of course steaming drunk dawn till dusk

This particular war touches core interests of Russia in a way most past defeats did not.

Russo-Japanese war in Mandżuria was fought in far periphery, Soviet-Afghan war completely outside core territories, Crimean war had much more limited theatre etc. So, I am not saying that Russia cannot be defeated in a war, I am merely saying that this war is too important for them to lose. Ukraine sits on key invasion routes historically used against Russia--surely you must see that from their point of view this is vital for their strategic interests much more than winning the 1920 invasion of Poland or the Winter War against Finland.


Just like they were in Rhzev... and Stalingrad, Leningrad, and to some extent still in Berlin - drunk, disorganised and victorious.

So, guys, I get back again to this nagging question: are we ready to sacrifice as much as Russia is ready to sacrifice? Yes or no?

Are they? For many months now it's seemed to me that russia is not seriously trying to make military progress in Ukraine but the goal is just to hurt infrastructure and kill people (including civilians).

Where do you get the idea they want to 'win'?

I think the war now is just continuing because they don't know what else to do. they've cornered themselves into a war economy and if they try to wind down the whole economy will crash....

@Torq
We shouldn't have. Remove those in charge they are ballast and we don't have to make sacrifices. We will win with some effort.

This is absolutely correct.

Dutch intelligence, in a recent public-facing report, estimated Russian losses at 1,200,000 "permanent" casualties (including 500,000 killed in action). The corresponding number for Ukraine, was 500,000 - of which 150,000 killed).

At such "exchange rates", Russia can keep the pressure up in Ukraine until it collapses. It's simple mathematics.

Even Ukrainian commanders say that to "win" against Russia, they need exchange ratios of 4:1 or 5:1. Now, it is nowhere close to that.

Even if 2 million Russians end up getting killed in Ukraine, but Ukraine collapses - Putin will be able to sell it as a win to the population.

Compare infrastructure and civilian losses in the Russo-Ukrainian war to what Israel did/does in Gaza in much shorter time - Russian goal is certainly not just to hurt infrastructure and civilians. They are simply very weak - perhaps the weakest Russia has ever been in their history. I would, however, have certain reservations about plans to maximally exploit this weakness. There is, after all, a possibility that some of their nukes might be suitable for use... a distant possibility but still.


I used to believe that. Now I think that the the guy who eventually replaces Putin might be even worse (for us).


You don't win wars without sacrifices; and I am not entirely convinced that we would be victorious in a war to crush Russia. A defensive campaign to save Poland--sure; a limited operation to aid Ukrainian front in risk of collapse--yeah; but inflict a decisive defeat on Russia in a war they consider essential for their vital interests - that's a different story altogether. We could do that... but it would require gargantuan sacrifices.

Well, Totq, the way I see it does not take decades, all it takes is the will of the people to take to the streets, or one person in the leader's circle, with guts, to replace the maniacal monster, open nation eyes to the truth. Slavic brotherhood Russian style, their embrace looks more like chokehold, A am sure Ukrainians are enthusiastic., just dreaming about the brotherhood. I am old enough to remember Russian embrace.

Ukrainian commanders are showing admirable skill and determination in defending their homeland, and they have more knowledge about Russians in their little fingers than all the Milos, Cmses and Mafs of this world put together. That's why they are not underestimating you.


It isn't but they will keep fighting anyway... a rather difficult situation we all find ourselves in, isn't it?

Running out of ideas, to some extent.

The first two years of the war we fought like Lancelot.

The entire time, the Russian military "blogging" class, and servicemen themselves grumbled about:

1) "Why don't we destroy every crossing from the EU into Ukraine, so they cannot receive supplies? Our leaders have betrayed us in a back room deal with NATO!"

2) "Why don't we destroy all the bridges crossing the Dnieper and so divide Ukraine in half - making West-East logistics impossible?"

3) "Ahhh! Ukraine's rail capacity is largely electrified. We have to hit substations and transmission lines to turn off the trains! Why are we not doing this!"

4) "There's no such thing as 'civilian' power generating capacity, since it feeds Ukrainian military industry. Destroy power generation."

Gerasimov and Co. ignored all these rants for close to two years, and tried to win the war in chivalrous fashion. When that didn't work, they slowly started checking off items from the "moaning blogging class'" wishlist. Of course - none of the things the bloggers promised us would happen - happened.

Instead, Ukraine got really butthurt about finding a way to respond - and started bombing our energy infrastructure.

Then several ceasefires followed, where we agreed not to touch each other. Inevitably they were violated, by either side, whenever it felt under pressure and wanted to lash out.

The current Russian infrastructure strikes are largely intended to force the Ukrainians to come back to the table, and agree to stop hitting our oil and gas infrastructure.

It has been conclusively demonstrated that destroying Ukraine's grid had minimal effect on the actual frontline. Trump should also take note of this.

Fair assessment, without the nukes Russia is the third- world military power.

Yes - a real sh*thole country, as one very stable genius might put it.

Makes you wonder then, how the leader of the Free World ended up sitting so firmly on Russian dick.

It stands to reason, that besides rusty nukes - there are other tools of persuasion available.

@Bobko

I agree that in general Russia did not fight this war with utmost brutality (well, certainly not in a way you did in Chechenya for example).


What exactly is there on the table? How does Russia see the end outcome of this war?

I don't mean some retarded maximum demands but the final realistic outcome - what would satisfy Russia?


*sighs*

Indeed. A third world power, with space flight capabilities, atomic ice breakers, and world class scientists in most areas. Guys, kurwa mać, why do you sometimes make me despair that we're on the same side? :-/

Tell it to this guy and 2 million others....

x.com/mouw5284/status/2047662495125418143

I meant - come to the table, and agree again not to touch each other's critical infrastructure.

We did it at least three times already.

We both need it, and it's in both of our interests. We want to keep exporting oil, and generating the revenues necessary to fund this obscenely expensive war. The Ukrainians - in turn - want to keep the lights and heat on in people's houses, lest they start protesting en masse... leading to a collapse of the Home Front.

Both governments are not "enjoying" this mutual destruction of infrastructure. The Russian government, of course, feels it has much more capacity to absorb pain than the Ukrainian one - but still it's stressed by what is happening. The strikes are becoming more and more painful - not less.


The Sun-like One says that all he wants is for them to vacate the Donbass.... so I guess that's the price?

I think it's clear there is no strength, or appetite to take on the gargantuan task of storming the Dnieper and retaking Kherson city. The Soviet army lost nearly 1.5 million men forcing the Dnieper against the retreating Nazis. It stands to reason that Russia will suffer similar problems.

There's no strength or appetite, to move much further north than Orekhov in Zaporozhye oblast. Taking on the city of Zaporozhye itself seems like a joke.

Same for Kharkov - I don't see that happening.

Ditto for a "new" invasion from the north through Belarus... again.

I really think that all that's left to accomplish is Kramatorsk, Slovyansk, Kupyansk, Liman etc.

Sounds reasonable to me. Give Donbass to Russia, give Ukraine the EU membership and sh*tloads of money, end the f*cking war so that everyone has something to brag about: Ukrainians that they successfully defended their country against a superpower, Russia that they conquered Donbass, Europe that they enlarged the Union by accepting another strong and proud independent country as a member.

Other details can be agreed upon at a later juncture when guns are silent and peace reigns again in Slavia. So help us Svetovid, and all that.


That's Kharkiv Oblast, isn't it? But I suppose you have to take a bit more than Donbass to be able to give some lands up in the peace negotiations.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_(2022%E2%80%93present)

Did they have war crimes trials in the medieval times ?