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Tacitus
17 Sep 2019  #421

that is not normal as being conservative/rightist is a totally acceptable political leaning.

You can be as conservative as you want to be. But if you start decrying our democratically elected government as dictators, follow crazy conspiracy theories, and believe that being descendant from Gastarbeiter makes one an inferior German, and try to downplay German's atrocities during WWII, you are out of the spectrum. That is just common sense.

here is also nowhere a majority for the Greens or the Linke, they are still everywhere in the coalitions

What do you mean with this? Coalition governments are the rule in Germany, so that is hardly surprising. Besides, there is a majority for it in Berlin (the city), though unfortunately the mess they make there does not seem to discourage too many left-leaning voters elsewhere.

crazy coalitions with political adversaries, only to keep the AfD out.

Naturally the options for the democratic parties are limited when people vote almost 50% for the two populistic parties AfD and the Linke. Since a coalition with the AfD is utterly impossible (both for moral and pragmatic reasons), the parties have to work hard in order to form government. It is easy to simply oppose everything like the AfD does, doing productive governmental work however is more difficult. It's not a political topic.

pawian
17 Sep 2019  #422

What are qualites of Germans?

Germanz are good peoples.

Ziemowit
17 Sep 2019  #423

What is it supposed to be?

How has it come that BB's answer to my question mysteriously disappeatred from the thread? Is Ms Merkel not considered German enough on this forum, so she doesn't fit the subject of the thread which is "What are the qualities of Germans?" ?

Also, BB's interesting remarks on the AfD have also been erased. Is the AfD not German enough to kick them out of the thread devoted to the qualities of the German people. BB has supplemented his remark with one sentence in German which I translated both into Polish and English, but these have also went off the air. Are only Syrians and North Africans now considered the only true Germans worth discussing on the PolishForums in a German thread?

The above mentioned erased posts are not even available in Random!

I say, moderating has become bizzare on the forum. A phrase or two in German in the thread about the German people only gives the thread a bit of flavour, but instead we must observe a deplorable narrow-mindedness of a mod who is unable to look to the sides, but can only go straight on ... until he gets knocked down by a bus!

mafketis
17 Sep 2019  #424

How has it come that BB's answer to my question mysteriously disappeatred from the thread?

It wasn't about Serbia, if you just rant on a bunch of insane nonsense on Serbia it will always be available because apparently that's the main focus of the forum now...

TheOther
17 Sep 2019  #425

root of the problem remains Merkel's stubborn unwillingness

The root of the problem is an orange guy in the US of A. He and his administration have been deliberately fanning the flames of nationalism worldwide, and the 30% hicks in each country fall for it yet again. That people in Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Hungary, Austria and other places are seriously considering far right populists is proof that they haven't learned a thing from history. Germany is the least of my concerns in this respect. They have learned their lesson much better than all the others.

Merkel, by the way, is just a convenient scapegoat for the European and American right wingers. Years before she opened the flood gates, European countries had already accommodated millions upon millions of Turks, Kurds, Algerians, Moluccans, Bangledeshi, Pakistani, Nigerians and many other nationalities. The migrant problem existed long before Merkel opened her stupid mouth.

TheOther
17 Sep 2019  #426

K-Gruppen waren die Freunde von Stalin, Mao und Pol Pot...

Die Grünen had their roots in that political environment, too. Just ask Fischer or Kretschmann...

Bratwurst Boy
18 Sep 2019  #427

Shouldn't they have then more understanding for the early extremism in a movement? ;)

But that's one of the points of differences....the Wessies live in a fear of the rebirth of the Third Reich and see in every non-left politician the next Hitler whereas the Ossis still remember living through the GDR dictatorship, a time most liberal Wessis don't know/don't care about.

TheOther
18 Sep 2019  #428

Shouldn't they have then more understanding

Old German saying:
"Stuff all politicians in a large bag and beat it with a club. You will always hit the one who deserves it the most."

Translates into ... politicians are all crooks.

Rich Mazur
18 Sep 2019  #429

...and all voters are morons.
Did you know that in the communist countries the re-election rates were 99%? On the other hand, in the "democratic" America, that rate is all the way down to 96%!

So, until somebody conclusively proves to me that stupidity is not an infectious disease, I will never show up at a voting place.

pawian
18 Sep 2019  #430

Did you know that in the communist countries the re-election rates were 99%?

Nope. Communists only said it was 99%.

Crow
5 Oct 2019  #431

Visegrad Group finally openly confront western Europe on Balkans and southern regions of Central Europe.

As entire region shacking due to opened `Serbian question` in entire former Yugoslavia and even with involvement of Albania, Visegrad Group, obviously encouraged by new USA President Trump, more and more openly taking pro-Serbia`s stance. And with the reason. Its not only moral question of being on the right side and Serbs are those who are right but, what we see behind the scene is fight for the European warm seas. When this all charade on Balkan is over, its Belgrade and ethnic Serbs of the region (Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim) who will effectively control east coast of Adriatic- only warm sea area realistically accessible by Visegrad Group and Poland itself. Not to speak of strategic Serbian position regarding other Mediterranean seas in Greece. Worth to tell, Slovenia, will also preserve its tiny aces to Adriatic. So, no wonder Poland ready itself for the finalization of the game. First we sow how Polish diaspora represented with Lewandowsky visited Belgrade and once more confirmed historical Polish-Serbian alliance, no matter good Serbian-Russian ties. Actually, Poles learned to profit on good Serbian-Russian ties. To see that as major fact of Poland`s security.

Then, if we don`t know how heavy Russian armament Serbia import via Polish, Czech, Slovak and Hungaruian air space we may think how Czech Zeman acts on its own when calling Serbian President to Visegrad Group summit. No, its clearly action of entire Visegrad and things moving in securing interests of Central Europe. If Russia may help, why not? If USA can help, why not? Vatican, too. Why not?

Vucic's invitation to the Visegrad Group summit is a precedent, sending clear message

"The invitation to a non-V4 country is an exception, and Zeman surprised everyone by this act. ...... clear commitment of the Visegrad Group to Serbia"

spot video from 16:00 >>>>>> youtube.com/watch?v=HxlW8GVPYR0

also >>> youtube.com/watch?v=TcodUOGFa_o

Ziemowit
5 Oct 2019  #432

All kind of creatures from PO or other parties that crawled into Brussels

Creature Beata Szydło was first to abandon Poland and crawl into Brussels ...

pawian
5 Oct 2019  #433

you are jabbering some crap just because he joined PiS

Oops, it seems you are having a fit now, but it is really surprising coz I was quite positive about Wojciechowski`s language performance. Didn`t I say Respect?

What`s the matter with you on practically every Saturday night? :):)

hahaha

If he was from PO you would sing his prise.

You certainly missed my previous posts here. :):)

Ironside
5 Oct 2019  #434

Creature Beata Szydło was first to abandon Poland and crawl into Brussels ...

How old are you Ziem? Not that I care but just want to know if there is any hope for you to grow up properly as an adult should or it is too late and you will die as an immature little old boy?

pawian
5 Oct 2019  #435

It always amazes me how you project your own mental problems on other people. I am probably too good-natured and kind hearted to refuse to believe adult people can behave like that. :):)

Ziemowit
5 Oct 2019  #436

How old are you Ziem?

What does my age have to do with creature Beata Szydło crawling to Brussels in search of a better life?

pawian
5 Oct 2019  #437

Creature Beata Szydło was first to abandon Poland and crawl into Brussels ...

Yes, good point. Apart from European Flag Remover Szydło, also Education Deformer Zalewska and others. They had been spitting on EU for years, yet when they had a chance, they happily decided to suck it for personal gains.

Ironside
5 Oct 2019  #438

t always amazes

.Ok, so you try to slink away with your tail between your legs, and that is your parting shot - in a hope I take a bite as it would make your defeat look like a strategical retreat - no such a luck today pawain.

What does my age have t

Your response is immature. Plus you obtusely missed my point. Is not a fact they went to Brussels but what they were doing there is a problem.

pawian
5 Oct 2019  #439

so you try to slink away

No. My remark meant that you are twisting things around as much as possible, trying to save your silly standpoint when I prove it is nonsense. I am losing time with you, liar and conman, every time we meet here, but that must be my fate and I have to undergo it like some sort of martyrdom. Let it be so. :):)

Ironside
6 Oct 2019  #440

My remark meant that you are twisting things around

Meaning - I nail your ass to the floor and make you defend your words with facts and evidence here and now,while you would rather move goalposts to preserve a guise of a smooth operator.

Crow
6 Oct 2019  #441

Creature Beata Szydło was first to abandon Poland and crawl into Brussels ...

And did sister Beata finded luck in Brussels?

It is rather rhetorical question.

Not that I care but just want to know

Its crazy to ask such a question on the internet, dobri brate Irone. Don`t you know what is internet. Who knows who sits on the other side of monitor. Maybe Trump himself, or Ratko Racow or Bull Clinton. Or Ana Brnabic herself or himself, who care

Ziemowit
6 Oct 2019  #442

What`s the matter with you on practically every Saturday night?

This strange condition is commonly known as "Saturday night fever" syndrome.

Education Deformer Zalewska and others. They had been spitting on EU for years and yet [...] they decided to suck it for personal gains.

Yes, the case of the Education Deformer is even worse than the case of sister Beata. It is, however, worth noting that the Deformer been sent there with the blessing of Our Great Leader Chairman Jarosław Kaczyński.

twisting things around as much as possible, trying to save your silly standpoint when I prove it is nonsense.

The problem with Iron is that when he thinks he's written something really brilliant on Polish politics, we (that is: you and I) are able to instantly show it is some sort of rubbish conceived by a grossly uninformed person.

pawian
6 Oct 2019  #443

I nail your ass to the floor

No, of course you don`t. Do you really believe you do? Delusions. I am able to destroy each of your silly expat`s beliefs/claims/allegations about today`s Poland and then your typical escape is resorting to Soviet/ PRL insults to save your ass. But that is futile.

a grossly uninformed person.

Yes, uninformed as a long-term expat and lying as a hardened nationalist. Not to mention his possible Kremlin connections - common trait among true nationalists. :):)

Crow
18 Oct 2019  #444

Merged:

In case of Civil War in Spain, in Catalonia, what happens to Polish diaspora there?



Is their large Polish diaspora in Spain and Catalonia?

Media speak of great disturbances. Titles speak of Civil War, of injured, of tanks and army movements, of fight with police.

BESNI GRAĐANSKI RAT! Katalonija u plamenu! Španija šalje oklopne jedinice u grad, veliki broj povređenih! (VIDEO) /translation > Civil War! Catalonia in flames! Spain sending armoured vehicles, great number of injured!/

> vesti/svet/prenos-uzivo-iz-barselone-katalonija-u-plamenu-spanija-salje-oklopne-jedinice-u-grad-veliki-broj-povredenih-video/259608/vest?utm_medium=push&utm_source=pushpushgo&utm_campaign=CampaignName

I mourn for Spain and Catalonia.

pawian
20 Oct 2019  #445

what happens to Polish diaspora there?

Is their large Polish diaspora in Spain and Catalonia?

These two questions are a little contradictory. :)

I mourn for Spain and Catalonia.

Are you sincere? After all, Spain belongs to the EU and holds Western values which you both reject.

johnny reb
31 Oct 2019  #446

The world's largest nuclear power producer is melting down.
On the shores of the English channel in Normandy, engineers are struggling to fix eight faulty welds at a plant that's supposed to showcase France's savoir faire in nuclear power.

Will the prevailing winds affect Poland at all with fallout ?

Rich Mazur
31 Oct 2019  #447

...or the nearby refugee camp. I really would be sooo sad if something happened to all those doctors and engineers.

Crow
31 Oct 2019  #448

Are you sincere? After all, Spain belongs to the EU and holds Western values which you both reject.

What values, man? My country is birthplace of the West. It sound moronic when you tries to explain Western values to me.

Yes. I am sincere. Catalans are Whites and other Spaniards are, same as Italians and Greeks, greatly Gypsinezed. Still, why would Spaniards and Catalans suffer in war? Why not split peacefully? So that foreign magnates profit, like it was with Yugoslavia

Miloslaw
31 Oct 2019  #449

. Catalans are Whites and other Spaniards are, same as Italians and Greeks, greatly Gypsinezed

Just like you Serbs are very "Turkinized"??

LOL!!!!!!!!

Crow
31 Oct 2019  #450

Pardon. No Turk in me, to put cross on myself. Dinaric mountains were perfect for hiding and partisan tactics of warfare. Plus, Ottoman Turks were mostly homosexual oriented.


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