European News and Poland Thread 2

Poland is lucky. Serbia would prove to be Poland`s safe bridge to the markets of former Yugoslavia and Balkan, China and Asia, Russia and Eurasian Union, via countries of non-aligned movement to entire Islamic world, Africa, India, all to the Cuba and South America.

Condition? We only wants Poland to live. That is our interest.

You can`t say many imposed this condition on Poland. I think non.

A very interesting, welcome, and long overdue development:

French call to replace English with Latin as Europe's official language

"An anti-English movement is brewing in France. Clement Beaune, French Minister for European Affairs led a campaign for "European linguistic diversity" last month, where he emphasized the lack of need for English after Brexit.

"Let's get used to speaking our languages again," he said."

trtworld.com/magazine/french-call-to-replace-english-with-latin-as-europe-s-official-language-44961

This will prove extremely popular in Poland too. Indeed, Poland and Polish itself have a very long and intertwined history with Latin.

Poland Didn't Always Speak Polish: The Lost Linguistic Diversity of Europe

"In the 16th century, Poland had very many fluent and skilled Latin speakers, Latin being widely used as a lingua franca.

Polish nobility had always looked up to ancient Rome...stemming from Roman sources, that Polish nobles were descendants of the Sarmatians...knowing Latin was considered an important part of 'Sarmatian' culture.

Today, Polish still stands out among other Slavic languages as the one with biggest load of Latin loan-words."

culture.pl/en/article/poland-didnt-always-speak-polish-the-lost-linguistic-diversity-of-europe

Omne Vetus Novum Est Iterum, I'd say!

Really? You base that assumption on what exactly?

About as popular as a dose of clap.

The second language here is English, and is likely to be so for the foreseeable.

No assumptions.

Men in the EU and Poland will reinstitute Latin for geopolitical reasons.

Women will follow suit based on their hypergamy.


Nope. Polish is the only official language and the second most commonly spoken is Silesian.

Bo? Than what data supports that claim?

LOL!

Since when do emotionally-driven hypergamous women care about data?

You don't need to conduct trend analysis to transform society!

Just look back at history:

Men do.

Women follow.

Pax Vobiscum, I say!


True, true. Rome subjugated us and love for Latin was a must.

Now, it's not a must.

Still waiting for the first one to claim divine connection and rule a flock of sheep at some faraway place in Texas or Guyana.
Poloniusz, please tell me that you are just yanking chain with that Latin thing.
When I entered "you are a brainless leftist moron", I got this in Latin: Tu autem, tardum leftist moron.
Clearly, something didn't work as well as it should.

Time will tell.

Often times life is a pendulum so it isn't farfetched for it be used again.

The EU has dreams of being a continental powerhouse. In a multipolar world using English accommodates and facilitates the Anglosphere and places such countries in a psychologically dominant position.

There has been too much internecine fighting in Europe for any current language to replace English and Esperanto is a joke.

Latin on the other hand shaped much of Europe from religion, to politics, to all the current Romance languages and vocabularies in many others.

The only ones who will take to the streets to complain are the Greeks but they can be assuaged with assurances that at least it isn't German.

We already know you are not too bright, no need for confirmation... But let's follow your line of thinking...

What makes you think it will be popular among Polish men?

The very same reasons it was popular with Polish men back in the 16th century when it was widely used in Poland.

You mean the reasons that are very similar to the ones why English is dominating now?

Btw- you do know that even some medicine studies (which were always most connected to Latin) dropped Latin?

I wonder if he thinks they're going to be dressing as medieval clerics.


We weren't talking about official languages or Slaskie godlo. Day to day here in Poland (which admittedly you have no experience of), English is the second language.


Most, in fact.

Many institutions require doctoral theses in STEM disciplines to be translated into English as a matter of course.

Latin held huge sway in the past because of the power and influence of the Vatican via the Royal Courts of Europe and thus commerce and law.

English only managed to displaced it because of the wealth and influence it accumulated through conquest and colonialism around the world.

The rise of Protestantism in the West and Communism in the East also opposed any influences like Latin linked to the RCC.

However, Latin has much deeper roots in Europe than English and predates both Christianity and Communism.

Communism is dead in the West and Christianity is on the wane.

All it will take is the EU to make Latin the official language. With the right education of the public and putting the money behind it, Latin will once again become the unifying language of Europe.

English will then go the way of the Celtic languages. Quaint but irrelevant.

I wonder how the Queen really feels about wokeism after this fiasco. The cancel culture mob is coming for her next. They said she has a high approval rating all she has to do is make a donation BLM and they will leave her alone..maybe, get out the p[opcorn, too funny!

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Given that it's the de facto second language in whole swathes of the world, including China, India and most of south east Asia, the first language of several major countries and a lingua franca in many more, one doubts that silly assertion.

English is a fluke and today has too much baggage associated with it.

The world will gladly drop it in favor of Latin.

Which is one reason why so many more people want to live in the UK (for example) than the UK could ever allow.... and recent years have shown that if English is widely spoken as a second language then it will be more difficult to integrate migrants... (who often view a stay in Sweden or Netherlands as a stepping stone to the UK or the US).


Spanish would make more sense.... easier to learn and popular as a third language in Europe.

You just confirmed that he is right. Wrongness is not proven by a personal insult. It's proven by producing evidence to the contrary.
Let's start with cults. It's very easy to organize one and operate it - even at home. All you need is to be a smooth bulls*hitter and reasonably good-looking. Women should be ideal for that kind of con game as they meet and exceed both requirements.

So, name a couple of cults where women were leaders.

Lenka darling, you told him and your every word is golden.

I am disappointed with her reaction. She violated the first Novichok rule: never react to "hey, fag" and or anything similar. She did and now she is operating at the accuser's gutter level. I guess, she wasn't briefed that her accuser is (1) a woman, (2) black, and (3) a Z-list has been looking for attention and relevance.

A short, "f*ck off, you miserable b*itch" would be more appropriate. I should be a spokesman for the Royals.


Your sarcasm is not coming across. Next time, add: that was sarcasm.

We also had Franch...

For a language to become the lingua franca we need few factors:
- powerful backing (some important place using it)
- science/ culture/ religion
- become fashionable
- be useful enough for an individual to invest time and money into learning it.
- not be crazy difficult

Latin has none of that by now.

...and has to evolve with technology and moral decay.

This title is a disgrace.

Slavic peasants in what is now Poland, at a time when some elite rarely used Latin, generally never spoke Latin, while used all sets of their native languages, from Polish to the Kashubian and Lusatian, etc.

Even when the elite used Latin, it was a good way to avoid being killed by a papacy and their teutonic friends.

Let us speak the truth here. Children may read this.


Pane Novi since when you don't like sarcasm?

It's often required for decent jobs in places where the person will never meet a native speaker of English and never travel. It's become the worldwide language of business.

The pendulum has already begun to swing back and in Poland!

From July 2020:

Poland adds Latin to core curriculum to help pupils "understand foundation of Western civilisation"

"From the start of the upcoming school year, a new subject, Latin and the culture of classical antiquity, will be added to the core curriculum as an option for students in the first year of secondary school.

"The aim is to show students the impact of the Latin language and the culture of Greco-Roman antiquity on the European languages and culture of later centuries," reads the regulation that introduces the subject."

notesfrompoland.com/2020/07/21/poland-adds-latin-to-core-curriculum-to-help-pupils-understand-foundation-of-western-civilisation/

Today's students learning Latin will be tomorrow's leaders using it.

Oh, and unbeknownst to the bitter PRL-era fossils and other 60s-era bra-burners out there, there is also a quiet but growing interest among young Catholics around the world in the Tridentine Mass.

And we can all thank a Pole, none other than Saint Pope John Paul II, for that:

"Pope John Paul II gave the Mass a new lease of life in 1988 when he wrote: ...respect must everywhere be shown for the feelings of all those who are attached to the Latin liturgical tradition..."

bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/ritesrituals/tridentinemass_1.shtml

The future is bright! The future is Latin! Again!

Today's leaders were Latin students. Didn't stick somehow. Wonder why?

Communism. I already mentioned that. Do try to follow along.

There was Latin in school after communism too.


You do know that it wasn't English that displaced Latin?

The idea that a language not being really used for ages, with no real native speaker base and harder than the current lingua franca can replace Rnglish is simply hilarious