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USA News and Poland - Part 2



johnny reb
9 Feb 2020  #3181

You should have continued down the page and found one of the many credible ones with a list of names, how they were connected to the Clinton's and how they mysteriously died.

....I personally find liberalism a very agreeable politic....

Not me, I find them wanting complete control of everything and not being able to listen without using their outside voice to make their point.

Velund
9 Feb 2020  #3182

that didn't look like "maximal opression" to me....

Next one will be murder, what else worse than impeachment can be done with President?

Velund
9 Feb 2020  #3183

How many political prisoners are they holding?

At least three russians (all arrested abroad with pretty stupid "conspiration" cases).
Plus one just was deported after 18 years sentence - it was sentenced just to deportation in a first court, because "evidence" was laughable, but arrested again by DOJ agents right in court room due to a shiny fresh case opened in another state based on the same "evidence". Takes 10 years before DOJ and Secret Service was able to find a dumb enough judge that sentenced them to 18 years instead of two life sentences promised by DOJ while they tried to make that guy a "cooperating witness" against russian politicians in exchange of plea bargain. Milo should know who is this guy. ;)

Lyzko
9 Feb 2020  #3184

@Johnny et al, ya'll see only what y'all want to see. If you don't choose to see it, guess it just ain't there.

It's all the same thing; you hate the messenger and so the message revolts you too, regardless of what the message is.

johnny reb
9 Feb 2020  #3185

More of Lyzko's unintelligent Liberal Logic.......lol
Did ya'll notice how Pelosi and the DNC hate the messenger and so the message revolts you too, regardless of what
the message is.
Evidently you don't think before you post........you just babble to babble.

Rich Mazur
9 Feb 2020  #3186

A reader's comment so good, I decided to share it. From boston.cbslocal.com/2020/02/08/nh-primary-poll-sanders-buttigieg-klobuchar/

So the Democrat choices are: a gay guy with a last name that starts with Butt, a fake Cherokee Indian, some old codger who likes to sniff girls hand and can't remember what day is it and an 78 yr old yelling communist. That a choice?

And let's not forget the squad. Those geniuses because they are women.

cms neuf
9 Feb 2020  #3187

The choices in Russia's election - an ex KGB baldy, a champion ice hockey player, a bareback horse rider, a well known murdering thief and a fighter pilot.

Gentlemen start your engines on your Ladas.

Lenka
9 Feb 2020  #3188

last name that starts with Butt

Is American politics really so childish that someone's surname is a thing? It is a serious question

Velund
9 Feb 2020  #3189

a well known murdering thief

Do you have some evidence that goes beyond usual "everyone knows" and newly fashionable "highly likely"?

johnny reb
9 Feb 2020  #3190

The choices in Russia's election -

You forgot the richest man in the world.

Is American politics really so childish that someone's surname is a thing?

It's not his name Lenka, it was the picture of him kissing his boyfriend that made America puke.
A Gay president ?
Slim to none and Slim just left town.

cms neuf
9 Feb 2020  #3191

Thief - every time I see the guy he has a watch on that is worth several times his official salary. It is well documented that he is one of the richest men in the world.

Murderer - a long trail of bodies of his opponents bumped off with nerve agents and radioactive teapots. Straight from his KGB training.

Ice hockey champion - this one is easy, plenty of YouTube films of guys soft pedaling trying the get out of his way as he scores his 5th goal of the game.

Lenka
9 Feb 2020  #3192

it was the picture of him kissing his boyfriend

I understand that for some people being gay can be more important than overall competences but the fragment Rich posted clearly makes a thing of his surname. I would expect it in high school changing room but not in any atricle that even pretends to be serious.

Velund
9 Feb 2020  #3193

a long trail of bodies of his opponents bumped off with nerve agents and radioactive teapots.

Is there any evidence that can "hold water" in a independent court in this cases? Was coroner inquest in Litvinenko case finally made available to public? Is there anything beyond "highly likely" in Skripals case?

Rich Mazur
9 Feb 2020  #3194

Was coroner inquest in Litvinenko case finally made available to public?

Velund, don't ruin it for me and let me believe that the idiot who couldn't just shut up was invited to that polonium lunch on the orders from Moscow.

Velund
9 Feb 2020  #3195

Velund, don't ruin it for me

Amicus Plato, sed magis arnica Veritas....

johnny reb
9 Feb 2020  #3196

It is well documented that he is one of the richest men in the world.

How can anyone legally be worth $200 BILLION !
In 2007 he was estimated to be worth $40 Billion and in 2020 he is estimated to be worth $200 Billion.
How does a guy legally make well over a Billion a year and where did he get his initial $40 Billion ?
That ain't chump change Velund.

cms neuf
10 Feb 2020  #3197

Well I think first you need independent courts and then you can decide what holds water.

In Russia the courts have the slight flaw that the prosecutor, judge and jury are the same person - legendary scuba diver and wrestler V. Putin.

Velund
10 Feb 2020  #3198

How can anyone legally be worth $200 BILLION !

Who is so competent to make such estimates? Same sort of "experts" who declared during Litvinenko process that "only russian government have access to polonium" while polonium antistatic alfa-sources was commercially available from US retailers?

BTW: All gifts that was presented to Presidents of Russia become a property of the state (unless it is low value item costing less than 5 minimal wages), and kept in a Kremlin Library. First item that go there was Rolex, presented to president Yeltsin. So, Putin have plenty of expensive watches to wear to official meetings. He can use items that is stored in Diamond Fund for special cases.

Well I think first you need independent courts and then you can decide what holds water.

Formally, russian courts is as independent as US courts are.

And ... Just for example... Can you tell me why the US DOJ and the independent American courts, which were so consistent and irreconcilable in the prosecution of the French company Alstom for the facts of commercial bribery that taken place in the past in third world countries, withdrew all claims within 3 days after the sale of Alstom to a General Electric?

cms neuf
10 Feb 2020  #3199

No I couldn't tell you anything about Alsthom.

What I do know is that if I were on trial myself I would rather be in a court in any of the 50 US states rather than be locked up in a cage and put on public TV in a Russian court

Velund
10 Feb 2020  #3200

if I were on trial myself I would rather be in a court in any of the 50 US states

I'm pretty sure that if you will be on trial, you (after conversation with your lawyer) will happily sign plea agreement to avoid jury hearing, even if you are completely innocent. Do I need to explain why? Or maybe some US lawyer who ocassionally reads this thread will explain better?

cms neuf
10 Feb 2020  #3201

Well my family I've already had some experience of Russian justice - The result was two deportations to Siberia and one execution. maybe they should've got more expensive lawyers?

Rich Mazur
10 Feb 2020  #3202

Soviet, not Russian. Russia does not have death penalty.
If the US justice systems sucks it's because of the appeals system. In the death penalty cases, all appeals are at the country expense and can drag on forever. That is why death penalty verdicts are rare.

Rich Mazur
10 Feb 2020  #3203

all appeals are at the country expense

Sorry, I meant:... all appeals are at the county expense

johnny reb
10 Feb 2020  #3204

rather than be locked up in a cage and put on public TV in a Russian court

Damn, that would make you look guilty enough to convict you in itself ! lol

Who is so competent to make such estimates?

In this day and age I am sure you are just spoofing me.
How about the $70 BILLION that can be confirmed then.
Just where (by legal means) did he acquire all that loot ?

Rich Mazur
10 Feb 2020  #3205

Same ATM where Hillary got hers.

cms neuf
10 Feb 2020  #3206

It must be tough when your boss is the worlds richest man but you have to ride home on a rickety freezing tram

johnny reb
10 Feb 2020  #3207

Same ATM where Hillary got hers.

Oh, the Bribe's ATM and the Pay to play ATM.
That makes sense and cents.

Rich Mazur
10 Feb 2020  #3208

rickety freezing tram

What's a tram?

cms neuf
10 Feb 2020  #3209

In most countries a modern convenient and green form of city transport. In Russia it's a clattering1960s contraption full of drunks and grumpy babushkas that takes a good hour to get to the 15th veterans housing association.

Lyzko
10 Feb 2020  #3210

Interesting isn't it just that the US President who makes the most of keeping American jobs in the US, of verbally excoriating NAFTA, Obama,

and, of course, the Clintons at every opportunity, has done about the most of any modern president to outsource those "American" jobs off shore!


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