USA News and Poland - Part 2

All HF bands (rarely now, due to antenna problems at my new residental location), and EME on 23 cm sometimes from countryside home of my friend, where we built minimally necessary setup.

And no, I will not publish personal data here.

Me too.... too much pro Russian rubbish.

But hey, radio is my passion...as seems to be his....

All 176 passengers were killed and of course the Iranian liars are denying it.

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The New York Times later released a video showing the plane being struck by a missile.

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I KNEW IT!

We don't have fights. I post. That's it.


I am sane and I decided the time frame in my posts to exclude the WW2 and include the "peacetime" after the war was over.

In the period I specified, the number of dead caused by the US and the who*ring for hire, window dressing "allies" goes into millions. The USSR and Russia - not even close. If you have the numbers that show the opposite pattern, show them.

The problem with you personally and others like you is that you guys are not capable of dispassionate and objective historical analysis, as your personal baggage gets in your way. Milo is too emotional, too. Idealism and passion are good for the arts and in bed - not logical debates. Actually, passion makes men say and do stupid things.

Velund and Vesco, on the other hand, cite facts - numbers, events, and quotes - and their posts are not driven by raw emotions. In the eyes of an objective and unemotional observer like me, they win here every single time.

Prove what? Every word out of your mouth, if about America, is a lie


That is the problem in the open forum you and only you decide what to include or exclude. This exchange is not working even dressed as the dove of peace


This pretense of a dialog is laughable. What about the level wide real playing field. Not to mention, so hated by you, historical analysis or should I say lack of any history, Short period of 50 years is not even close to history


You, the super American patriot, sound suspiciously like Velund and Vesco two of Moscow mouthpieces. As for the numbers, your horizon is to narrow, and eyes are deceiving you. And frankly, I am tired of the repetitive barren discussion.

In my posts, yes. Only I decide what is of interest to me. In this case, nothing before 1945.


It was never meant to be a dialog. I am not interested in dialogs.


Again, it is my decision how far back I want to go. If we go all the way back, then we will be talking about Columbus and Indians. And, later, how many Americans were killed in the "Civil" war by other Americans because the South wanted to separate. Those numbers, btw, were into millions, but to you it's the Soviet actions in Prague and Budapest that make the Soviets into monsters. So how many did the USSR kill there?


I never agreed to be psychoanalyzed. Instead of playing doctor, get the numbers. If those numbers could prove your point - West good, Russia bad - you would have already shown them with glee. Your problem is that the numbers are really bad for the West and the US. Just add up Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq - twice. I mean all the dead - on both sides.

How emotions make men say stupid things was best seen when comparing Katyn to Auschwitz. To the average Pole, Katyn is almost as bad. Go figure.

Well...here is another comparison: the Soviets terrorized and murdered more of their own people...the West did it rather elsewhere.

I know what I prefer!

Why the mystery? Playing Lyzko? Simple English is a great tool if you are willing to use it.

My are we bitchy today! ;)

You and Lyzko must be related. Always weaseling out of direct and simple statements. Like, who the fu*ck is "we"? Or, "I know what I prefer", but I won't say because Enigma is my middle name.

Yeah...I know...a fault of mine....argumentation instead of simple statements...that sucks! Especially on a discussion board...:)

I will aim to write shorter! *nods*

No, it's not about argumentation. Argumentation is good as it keeps things going. It's the meaningless sentences that leave the readers guessing that's your problem. Like in "I know what I prefer". How about letting us know what you prefer?

Then why do you demand "simple statements" or "Yes or No" questions?


What? THAT is the problem? You can choose between a gov which terrorizes you, spies on you, jails you, kills you if it deems you an "enemy of the people" and a gov which does not?

What do you think I would prefer? Seriously!

My English is bad....but surely not THAT bad!

You remind me abit at the second or third generation of Turks in Germany. They enjoy the living standard and liberal freedoms in the West but cheering on nonetheless the little Sultan at home. Even as people at home pack their bags and are leaving, looking for better shores elsewhere, not wanting to endure the next osmanic Sultanat.

Your sympathy and support of Russia, no matter what happened there smells too...from your comfy sitting in the far away US!

Do I have to spell out really everything???

ROTFL. )))

Well, well, America is one of greatest inventions of humankind, rated right after the invention of sex. Dollar is greatest currency of all times and will rule forever. American democracy is far superior to any other possible and impossible systems. Any person, extrajudically killed by appointment of US authorities, goes directly to the heavens, with all their sins instantly forgiven, killed muslims receive spare penis as a bonus, to be able to pretend to 144 virgins instead of promised 72.

Should I say something more about America?

BB in action again...Instead of clarifying, another question...


It's not your English. It's your personality and your way of saying things. Enigmatic. Always the EU cautious with plausible deniability to keep your thought police guessing. To an American, you, Euros, are sick puppies who act like you have been abused one time too many.


Just read that sentence again. What is that bs with "rather"? That sentence means this: Soviets murdered at home. The West murdered in other countries. If that is the meaning, is the West supposed to be better?


Isn't it fun debating the posters who are capable of writing something as stupid as: "Every word out of your mouth, if about America, is a lie". Therefore, "the" or "and" are lies, too. Even teenage girls with fu*cked up hormones don't talk like this.

Memo to the "West is good, Russia is bad" emotional freaks: The USSR is history since 30 years ago. Russia is not at war with anybody. The US and their puppets are at war NOW and ALWAYS because this is how the US masturbates its messiah Magnificent Seven complex and feeds its greedy swamp to get the money from them to get re-elected.

Got it?

No thanks, we've heard enough Russian propaganda already.

How long have you been working for RT?


Taking over Crimea wasn't a war when the other side is totally defenseless.

Hostile take over is a pleasant way of saying it.

The other side was majority Russian. No shots fired, votes cast.
BTW, Crimea was an immoral - if not illegal - gift by Khrushchev to Ukraine. With the West getting too cozy with that republic, Russia faced the prospect that their naval base would soon be NATO. No, thanks.

At least Russia had a historic and strategic reason to get Crimea back through an internationally supervised referendum, which I have this feeling was more honest than voting is in Chicago.

What reason and justification does the US have to occupy Gitmo in Cuba? Did the Cubans vote to give it to us?

Actual referendum that de-facto declared will of Crimean people to exit Ukraine and become independent republic within USSR taken place January 20, 1991, with 93.26% "Yes" to re-creating Crimean Republic as it was created in 1921 (downgraded to "oblast" after freeing Crimea from Nazis). But that will was mostly ignored (ukrainian authorities declared Crimea as autonomous republic WITHIN UKRAINE instead), and process of taking power away from locals started, March 17, 1995 Crimea was "downgraded" again by ukrainian auhorities, by cancelling current Constitution of Crimean Republic and some most important laws concerning status of Crimea.

Second referendum in 2014 had nearly similar outcome (96.57%), but ukraine got no chances to "dissipate" its results - people learned lessons well.

Oh, blessings on brat Trump for hitting that Suleimani. Suleimani was mastermind behind Islamic leagues operations against Serbians on Balkans during Civil War in former Yugoslavia. Suleimani was main contact between mujaheedines, Vatican, Clinton, Germany and Co.

Trump obviously canceled US contract with monster and Co.

President Trump makes USA great again.

Donald Trump says strike against 'monster' Suleimani was retaliation

youtu.be/7DEbkHJXXn0

But to the Russia haters here such numbers are merely a deflection and a proof of something very suspicious. At the same time, the same retention rate among members of the US Congress are never questioned. No way. That American 96% is without any question an honest reflection of the will of the American voters. Sure.

Also, from Wikipedia:

According to reports by the state media, observers to the 2014 Crimean referendum included members of the European Union's parliament, as well as MPs from various European nations, including Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Latvia and Poland, and that observers quoted regarding the conditions of the referendum corroborated claims of the referendum having adhered to international standards, with no irregularities or breaches of democracy.

I hope never to read here a sentence that includes "...but Crimea..." again.

Most of us I suspect...... why in the hell does a Pole Am like you support Russia?I

You are dreaming of your brutal, dictatorial, none existing powers, Wake up, you decide absolutely nothing this is an open, public forum
And you are just one of the grunts. In your private notebook, you can write anything your heart desires and set the most ridicules rules ever


Read the above post, the same answer if it is a monolog visit your notebook


What you try to decide and what is, are two entirely different things, So let's agree you decide nothing unless you write notes to yourself.

Fair enough! You are aware of my dislike of quotes from Wikipedia, numbers especially, but for wondering about the desert friend, I will walk the extra mile.

Here are the numbers from your favorite Russian sources
Gulag victims: overone million

WW2 over sixteen milDead soldiers only

Part of Russia (Ukraine) 12 million due to starvation (Some sources over 30 mil)
WW1 27 million

October revolution12 million

The long list goes on and on.
That is the example of how you answer serious posts, completely no cherry-picking what so ever.

Some more numbers for you

Hours to the end of your shift. 10;
Number of cups of ground acorn coffee you will consume 6
Hours until Ludmila the cleaner makes her rounds and you can liven up your evening by looking at her legs 4
Cost of your tram ticket home. 45 kopeks
Months since a post about Poland 11

There is no almost Equally barbaric difference in the numbers only


You are speaking of me so lovingly, like a girl who just graduated to a rank of a drill sergeant. Put the pants on and type "you f*cking Bird" instead of lecturing BB of being invasive, while you are doing precisely the same

I don't support Russia because Russia does not need my support. What I object to are the lies created out personal baggage and feeeeelings.

I intensely dislike the touchy feely American PC liberals just as much as I dislike the touchy feely Polish super patriots who forgave the German atrocities but still are unable to do the same with Russia, the country that actually liberated Poland. They could have stopped on Poland's eastern border and tell Poland to go to hell.

When I try to put the actual number of Polish victims killed by both Germany and the USSR on the same numerical scale, the Polish super patriots and perpetual Russia haters go ape sh*it. Why? Because they know those numbers are so far apart that any comparison is immediately moronic.

That's the problem and it is not mine just as an ex-Pole. It is mine as an American because the last thing the US, the country I swore my undivided allegiance to, needs is a military confrontation with Russia over Poland, a country half of Americans couldn't find on the map and, when found, couldn't care less about. Like Mongolia.

Your undivided allegiance, from here, look suspiciously like daily defecating And where did you get "military confrontation over Poland"
Are you looking for your lost marbles?


I wish they did, like in 1939, but no, they preferred to partition Poland again with the Germans as partners in crime.

!944 "Liberation" one of the worst tragedies in Polish history And years of suffering and virtual captivity

I don't give a fu*ck if it looks suspicious to you.

BTW, I have been through this Polish "suspicious" crap here before with the "girls". Don't make me say again what I think about Poles and their mental disorders.