USA News and Poland - Part 3

It's interesting to see how it will go - as PiS found out a hardline anti abortion stance is toxic for many voters. In 2015 PIS won big with young mums but they lost those people in 2019 and 2020 elections.

Same in the US - only about 15 percent of people want a total ban and most want abortion but with some controls. The court can't make the laws and eventually the law will reflect what voters want.

No, she won`t go to such extremes, she is too reasonable for that. America doesn`t need another ideological conflict in current time. Think logically, stop daydreaming!


Exactly. Amy knows about it and won`t do anything. Fanatics who support her now will be huuuugely disappointed.

Amy can be nominated, I have nothing against.

Hey, guys, altogether now!:

Long live our beloved President Joe Biden!!! He will make America truly great again.

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Are you confused?? It's hysterical, you foreigners think youre part our "our"elections. How about, mind your own business for a change! Hahaha


Nobody here cares what some foreigner 6000 miles is against. Its bizarre you have nothing else better to do with all your time than entrench yourself in something that is absolutely no concern to you.

How come you never mention the Chinese killing all your fellowmen in Poland with their nasty virus? How many dead now? Yet, you spend most your time parroting nonsense from the msm about Trump. Get a life loser:)

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Of course, we are. Poland is USA` partner in NATO, it is of vital importance for us to have the best Pres.


Sorry, we can`t. We believe in Liberte, Equalite, Fraternite. One for all, all for one.


I don`t care if a rightard 6000 miles away cares about my caring or not. I simply do my fekking job. Simple.


Of course it it. I teach my students about the USA, I want it to be a decent country, not North Korean-like tyranny under Trampek.


Yes, my life is telling Poles and Ams the truth about Trampek. I ain't gonna be just a face in the crowd, you're gonna hear my voice, when I shout it out loud. SImple.

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Hey Pawian, you say in another thread you don't like and don't watch the series "Świat według Kiepskich" and now you post the picture of Ferdek Kiepski (post #1,278)? You hypocrite!

Ziem, stop drinking on Sunday evening so heavily like now. Tomorrow is a fekking workday. hahaha What has posting a picture in common with watching a stupid series?

Hmm, if you mean a longer one, think twice about it. Remember we need everyone on board, especially such unique guys like you.

Then you would be our our side fighting against socialism, but you being a marxist libtard is like conversing with a rock.


I just seen AOC and Shumer in full panic mode over the appointment, too funny, nothing they can do except make threats. lol

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As a Russian Marxist troll to spread your Commie propaganda to destroy democracy.
Yes, we are all aware of what your job is here.

:) That line is directed towards the involuntary servitude prohibition. I believe the reasoning is that those sent to prison were expected to perform some type of labor back thern - the chain gangs being an example.


We've been in an ideological conflict over abortion protections since 1973. If Roe was overturned, the very same ideological conflict would continue--only difference would be abortion wouldn't have federal protections. So, there wouldn't be another ideological conflict. Logic, Pawian, logic.


But, there is a lively cadre of jurists who believe it is the duty of the court to form and create laws. It happened in Roe and cases that came before it. Roe depended on a legal fiction that was dreamed up by the Court in a case called Griswold that divined that the Bill of Rights had "penumbras", emanations that glowed forth from it. Of these unenumerated phantom-like rights was the right to privacy. In other words, the court made it up. It did this under the cover of the Ninth Amendment's reading that the enumerated rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage other rights. By characterizing privacy as a right this would then cover it under the due process protection of the 14th Amendment. What the court did in Roe was reach over into the Legislative branch and steal away Congress' duty and make that duty its own.

It isn't the Courts duty to decide what the "other rights" protected in the Ninth Amendment are, but the legislators. If Roe is overturned, what will happen is the right to abortion will no longer be protected by the federal government, however state legislators will decide whether it will be legal in their states. In other words, the voters will decide, whereas in Roe the voters didn't--nine lawyers did.

Comey Barrett is an originalist plus she has written a very fine commentary on stare decisis and how a decision that has inherent legal flaws does not need to be withheld. Therefore, she'll be attacked by the legions of hell if nominated. She'll be a threat to only Roe but a myriad of cases that have concentrated more and more power into the hands of the federal government.

That was long-winded, but pretty a damn good post on my part.

I read a few articles couple months ago by an American guy who was listed as a Professor of Poli Sci at University of Warsaw. I believe he had a hyphenated last name. Is that your tenant, Cargo? If so, Pawian, you need to take Cargo up on his offer, that Professor gets it and is good to go. You'd be a much better teacher under his mentorship--you could impress your students with your new-found deep knowledge and objective analysis of America. You could be awarded some kind of prestigous teaching award. :):)

YUP thats him CB???if I am correct?

Biden's not the candidate.
Biden is just a placeholder, a brand name at the top to scam voters.
But he will never serve as the actual president, wanna bet me ?
Who's dumb enough to not see this ?

The real behind the scenes winners will be Kamala Harris as president and Nancy Pelosi as vice president.
Add in the infamous radical Commie Squad as the Cabinet.
That's who's really running the Democratic Party nowadays: Reps. Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.
And don't forget former President Barack Obama and Rep. Maxine Waters for the Supreme Court.

That's the team you're really voting for when you vote for Biden, two California crazies and a bunch of commies (literally).

Thanks Ant - that is interesting. Do you consider privacy a right ? I guess modern times makes us consider that much more.

Anyway there is one challenge for whoever is making the law - can by Trump, Congress, the Supreme Court, the States or even dear Kaczynski.

Whoever is in charge, they won't stop kids screwing and they won't stop unwanted pregnancies. Add to that modern technology which shows up 'defects' in pregnancy much quicker and the demand for abortion will not go away. Poland is a perfect test case and if it is banned in the states then the business will just move to Canada or Mexico.

I'm not really in favor of on demand abortion myself, and I kind of think that life begins at conception but that is just my view and I certainly think it should be available in some cases. You can have whatever ideology you want but it won't alter the facts and will just make it unsafe and expensive. This lady will not give a good account of herself in the hearings if she doesn't recognize that.

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Instead of the indoctrination of marxism under the guise of teaching them about America, what a novel idea! These schools in Poland must be really screwed up to let someone teach a class they now absolutely nothing about. If the school were serious about this course they would hire someone with actual American credentials, not some libtard googler. It his only source of information, like so many other trolls that think they know everything about my country.


Theres a Polish station here too, but its Ryzdyk controlled.

:) That line is directed towards the involuntary servitude prohibition. I believe the reasoning is that those sent to prison were expected to perform some type of labor back thern - the chain gangs being an example.


Privacy to what? Privacy is an extremely generic term. So, I don't consider there to be a generic right to privacy. I do, however, consider there to be specific rights to privacy. Abortion is not a right of privacy.


Well, we can't alter the facts that there's a sizable demand for child pornography, human trafficking, slavery, etc., do you want to afford such things legal protections? Just because the facts are the facts and those facts won't go away, do all facts deserve legal protection? It seems like your line of reasoning would say "yes, the people want it, so let's protect it and keep it as safe and inexpensive as we can."


The science of biology is much more confident, it is convinced life begins at conception. One of the reasons the pro-aborts wrap their position in the semantics of choice is because of this fact. They know they can't argue from the point of when life begins.


What are you saying here? Let's say Belarus protected, or didn't prosecute, child pornography. According to your reasoning, Poland should protect, or at least not prosecute, child pornography either, because the child pornographers would only set up shop in Belarus. Now, I don't believe you think that should be Poland's view, but how do you get around it with the logic you are employing?

What the hell has this got to do with child pornography? Abortion is a consensual service and in some cases might be the best option - e.g if the foetus has serious illness. It's already legal in most other countries else whereas child pornography and slavery is illegal everywhere else.

Put down your philosophy books for a minute and think about how real people would behave.

I bet there are a few senators on both sides who would like this to be played low key - powerful charismatic men often have accidents with their interns and assistants and I'm sure there are plenty of wronged women with a story to tell about hypocritical lovers.

Poles and Serbs should increase informative activity in Chicago and more openly support President Trump.

Joker you should invite Crow to come visit you in Chicago so he could get a better understanding of the Polish community there.
Introduce him to some of them hottie Polish bar maids that know how to work a guy out of his paycheck. lol

If Trump win, I may come to USA. If he lose, its too risky to fly over the swamp. If Trump lose you people rather can come to my weekend house on the Danube. Better to be refugee in Serbia then live under the Biden yoke.

That sounds like fun.
Are there beautiful Serbian girls in that area to drink adult beverages with ?

Crow.....in all seriousness a young girl from a near bye town here, that I know, is on her way to Serbia this month to teach the Bible and do missionary work.

I have no idea yet what part of Serbia she will be in.
She was very excited about meeting Serbian people and learning your culture.
If you happen to run into her be on your best behavior. ;-)

I will take you up on it.

It is. My brother and I had a summer bar for some time. Maybe later again.


I will tend to believe this. Serbia is overrun with Protestant missionaries. Vatican utterly failed and Protestants filling the gap.


Oh, this is land of wonders. She will find Svetovid walk hand in hand with Christ in abundance.


Man, my first kiss happened near the one tree on the shores of Danube.

Consensual between whom? You act as if what is being aborted is not circumstantial. You admitted that you kind of believe life begins at conception and I pointed out that science acknowledges that life does begin at conception, so you kind of believe that human life is being aborted and science acknowledges that human life is being aborted. The only consensus is between the parent(s) and abortionist (who consensually agrees for economic gain), not the one who is actually being aborted-because that life is defenseless and voiceless.


In America, abortion is protected as a generic right of privacy. A human life is being aborted, you even think that's kind of true, so one life (the aborted life) is being controlled and exploited by another stronger life (parent and abortionist) for the benefit of the stronger life. This control and exploitation is protected by law. Isn't child pornography control and exploitation of one life by another for the benefit of the other? Both share the same foundation: a weaker and defenseless human life suffers the consequences of the actions of a stronger and dominant human life.

If you don't see that, I'd suggest you pick up sone philosophy books; but, there are plenty of philosophers who formulate moral systems that promote the might makes right, utilitarian, etc way of behaving.


That's the point, how should real people behave? There isn't just one option of behavior. We should be thinking, arguing for, and protecting the right behavior. What we decide is good and right as a society will have far-reaching consequences.

You know the argument for abortion in the West was that it would ensure all children would be wanted and therefore child abuse, neglect, poverty, and on and on would be eradicated. After 50 years, that argument hasn't been born out-not even close. So, the supposed good that abortion was to produce hasn't been produced.


I just looked up one of the articles, and that is the guy's initials. You should give him a free month's rent, cargo. :)

So they can pursue that line in town halls and on front porches. It's a dangerous one - "do you believe in a total van on abortion" is a yes / no question that most candidates will want to avoid.

Certainly hardly anyone in the population thinks about it as deeply as you do.

Voters don't like moral lectures, and it's going to be even weirder if it's coming from a guy who's been married three times to much younger women and has a string of other affairs.

lol NOPE,every July his rent goes up 100pln and he is the best payer for the only residential I have in Poland,I know him since he came to Poland in 2001 and has been my tenant for the last 12 years now.A very close friend and my occasional drinking buddy.Once he leaves I will sell it but I can bet he will die there.

I can understand from text that both things is prohibited, except as a punishment.

And what differences you see between slavery and incarceration with forced labor?

You are illogical. How can I be Russian if I am against Trump?? Russians have been his best friends since 2016. hahahaha


Of course not. Think logically. Most attacks on abortion clinics took place in 20th century. A few in 21st. We can say the conflict has subsided as people got used to the current regulations/laws, except the most ardent fanatics wo fight to the end.