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USA News and Poland - Part 4



johnny reb
29 Nov 2020  #211

Ha ha - right let's put a lid on this week.

Shucks, I just finished a very long chess match and now have time to debate you.
My mind is exhausted from the match though, so I will take you up on finishing where we left off tomorrow.
Damn a girl beat me playing chess, I am shattered.

Joker
30 Nov 2020  #212

My mind is exhausted from the match though,

I did the same thing last night as well! I lost and still peed I didnt see that last move..lol I play on chess.com

Im very surprised that someone on here actually plays chess, congrats!

Did you know that most of world best players are from Poland?

If you go to Poland during the summer you can see ppl playing along the Vistula.


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johnny reb
30 Nov 2020  #213

Basically the same result - Obama is slightly better.

Actually not cms if you take all things into consideration.
It's only because Obama started his administration near the lowest point of the "Great Recession" which happened in 2008.
A year before the great one took office, the Dow was at 14,000.
The market tanked when it was obvious that Obama stood a good chance of winning.
By the end of 2008, just as Obama was getting ready to be crowned, the Dow stood at about 8,000.
So, he had the benefit of climbing from the very lowest of the recession to nearly 20,000.
If he had come into power a year earlier, it would have been a much smaller climb from 14,000 to 20,000.
A far better gauge of relative economic success between obama and Trump would be to look at GDP growth and the unemployment rates just before Covid hit.

The virus wasn't Trump's fault, but the Libtards like to measure his success ending with lockdowns and closed businesses, which certainly hit the economy pretty hard.

Frankly, I've given up trying to reason with the morons on the Left.
Four years ago they all stopped thinking and have been in a four year coma.
What I really would like to see is a full blown investigation on the Biden Crime families money laundering in Ukraine and Russia like they did with the Russia collusion hoax for three years with Trump.

Pervert joe couldn't begin to handle such stress and would have a stroke within a months time.

Joker
30 Nov 2020  #214

Frankly, I've given up trying to reason with the morons on the Left.

Bingo! Id rather play a good game of Chess...

cms neuf
30 Nov 2020  #215

Of course you could stop the clock in February 2020 and measure then or you could adjust for various bad things in Obama's time.

But if you want to find some statistics that show that Trump was much better at managing the economy than Obama then that will be difficult - on unemployment, jobs created, inflation, GDP growth, balance of trade, deficit etc they are pretty similar. The extent to which a president can influence the economy is limited anyway.

Ask for Covid, well when you elect a president you expect them to deal with whatever crises come their way. I don't think Trump has done a great job of managing it, he certainly didn't improve things and he probably made it worse.

BTW I am not on the left and not a moron.

fortunately America has a pretty robust private sector which has cushioned a lot of the below. Even experienced leaders in Europe of struggled to deal with it.

Novichok
30 Nov 2020  #216

It's only because Obama started his administration near the lowest point of the "Great Recession" which happened in 2008.

Bingo. I knew it but didn't want to intrude. When you start from the city sewer, your cat's s**t smells like a rose. Confucius.

The extent to which a president can influence the economy is limited anyway

I dread disagreeing with you now, but I will. Presidents have one tool that affects the economy more than anything other than printing money: tariffs.

If that corrupt pile of excrement we call Congress wanted the US to be really prosperous, they would ban all imports except for some raw materials we don't have. Everything else can be made here. Anyone who claims that it cannot be done is full of it, as that would mean the US would die and perish if it were the only country on the globe. Which, of course, is utter bulls**t.

cms neuf
30 Nov 2020  #217

Well it would be remarkably like 1980s Poland - crap cars, a huge black market and no bananas.

johnny reb
30 Nov 2020  #218

BTW I am not on the left and not a moron.

I agree as you for one gave me a very good debate that made me think.
You did it without getting nasty or degrading.
and as I stated in post #205.......

I stand corrected.

As much as I disagree with you cms, I will say that I enjoy debating adults with your maturity like in our last debate.
That helps improve my demeanor here tremendously.

Novichok
30 Nov 2020  #219

Well it would be remarkably like 1980s Poland - crap cars, a huge black market, and no bananas.

But it would be sustainable. It's impossible to have a trade deficit with yourself. 800 billion trade deficit is not. That is why every country with brains promotes exports and makes importing as expensive as they can to discourage it.

The US is run by the worst of the worst - the bribable and the Harvard idiots - and indifferent to the nation's future. I am not sure which pile is worse. Our national attention span is next quarter.

What the Americans don't realize is that the US prosperity is nothing but a mountain of debt, with those 27 trillion bucks leading the parade. Subtract that debt - government, corporate, and personal - from the net equity of each American, and Mongolia will not look one damn bit worse.

johnny reb
1 Dec 2020  #220

I can't wait until the people who voted for the Sniffer sees the increase in their taxes.
joey campaigned that only people making over $400,000 would be effected by a tax increase. lmao
Wait and see.
And when their jobs start disappearing again when slow joe takes Teflon Trumps tariffs off imports and the jobs Trump brought back home all go back overseas again.

I agree, Rich, America is fcked for the rest of our life time.
And what is really a hoot is to see the miles and miles of 'new cars' in line waiting for free food.
Just wait until those jobs dry up and the car payments are do on all those new cars that Trump made possible to be parked in their driveways.

Novichok
1 Dec 2020  #221

And what is really a hoot is to see the miles and miles of 'new cars' in line waiting for free food.

As a Christian and an all-around well-wishing person, I cringe at the sight. I really mean it. Then, I realize that these people would re-elect their little Hitlers like Cuomo and deMoron in a millisecond if they could vote now. This is when "f*** you, a-holes" comes to my unforgiving and vengeful mind. (I am doing Ptak again. My new addiction.)

joey campaigned that only people making over $400,000 would be affected by a tax increase.

Oh, they will be and, very soon, not alone. They will be in the company of the 100k-class just like that. And those mysterious "billionaires" will move faster than the Empty Suit can say, "what the f*** is happening. It wasn't my plan. Kamala!!! Get your ass in here!!! Now!!!"

Velund
2 Dec 2020  #222

America is fcked for the rest of our life time.

Once I read that Nasdaq threatened to de-list companies that will fail to appoint at least two reps of "minorities" to their board, I finally started to feel the same. The last hope is that males with declared self-identification as woman and at the same time married to woman can be considered male lesbians and will classify. ;)

By the way, I identify myself as a billionaire, can I try to sue some banks because my account balance does not reflect my feelings? ;)

Crow
2 Dec 2020  #223

USA President Bill Clinton destroyed the world as we know it. Say that Bill isn't capable man.

johnny reb
2 Dec 2020  #224

And speaking of which, cheaperthandirt is now charging $400 for a 200 rd box of 5.56 NATO.... WTF?!?!?

I noticed that too Dirk as I was in a gun shop yesterday.
7.62 for an AK was up from $40 for 200 rds, to $100 and that was for the cheap Russian metal casing crap.
I have a friend that bought a re-loading machine for 5.62 that could do thousands of rds per hour.
He bought the spent brass from military surplus.
But guess what......the military now refuses to sell it at any price and grinds the brass up and sells it for scrap price.
All I can say is, get it when you have a chance of getting it.
200 rds is a lot in my case as my theory is, "one shot, one kill".

Novichok
2 Dec 2020  #225

200 rds is a lot in my case as my theory is, "one shot, one kill".

I treat the ammo I have as life-saving devices. They don't spoil, rot, or lose potency, so I am cool and don't really care how much it is now. Shooting for fun is out for now..

destroyed the world as we know it.

...while getting a blow job in the Oval office. That's the only image of him I kept and can't erase.

dolnoslask
2 Dec 2020  #226

getting a blow job in the Oval office

Now that's what I call a top Trump! , will anyone beat that.

Novichok
2 Dec 2020  #227

will anyone beat that.

Easy. Obongo getting a bj from Micheal with their adopted daughters watching.

Crow
2 Dec 2020  #228

while getting a blow job in the Oval office

That is amazing thing. Hitler and Stalin were barbarians comparing to Bill.

And Hillary never did with vagina what Bill did with penis. Bill literaly gave sex to the world. See, no wonder Hillary lost her mind.

will anyone beat that.

Yes. Bill was amazing.

Obongo

Are we sure he have penis?

Velund
2 Dec 2020  #229

Are we sure he have penis?

Judging by the way he fcuked up the whole world - something similar was there. Not necessarily penis, though...

Vesko Vukovic
3 Dec 2020  #230

So, how many of his cronies has Trump pardonded now?

I was simply not surprised by what Trump did, if he did, because another POTUS did it before him. The fact that you "don't remember" something and you don't really know is your problem, a hole in your education, what to do. Bill in this case was corrupt, now that he is not convicted is another thing, he was not for other things either:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_assault_and_misconduct_allegations

Not every criminal gets a verdict and jail.

I repeat: A New York Times editorial called the Marc Rich pardon "a shocking abuse of presidential power." And you can think whatever you want.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich

cms neuf
3 Dec 2020  #231

If you want a good laugh to start the day watch some of No Tax Donald's 45 minute speech yesterday. Absolutely cringe worthy stuff.

And the good news - he wants to run again, he might even announce it during Biden's inauguration. That is hilarious - is just going to tie the Republicans in knots for a few years.

Vesko Vukovic
3 Dec 2020  #232

johnkaminski.org/index.php/john-kaminski-american-writer-and-critic-2/291-wrong-way-to-freedom

Billionaires call their new tune
Dance of the Crippled Paupers


johnkaminski.org/index.php/john-kaminski-american-writer-and-critic-2/290-central-issue

360-degree scan of
a rotting civilization


An excellent essay referring to the fraudulent US presidential elections by Polish-American writer John Kaminski.

Key point:

The boat we all missed

"The great tragedy of the 2020 U.S. presidential election is that the truly important issues facing our country and the world were never discussed. Instead everyone got lost in a rococo TV game show in which a landslide victory for Donald Trump was turned into an improbable but temporary victory for senile subservience, Communist subversion and sexual perversion.

Constitutional civilization in the United States, if it ever existed, is long dead. It's a crimelord game today where dark witches like Pelosi and Feinstein are worth billions and own the vote counting machines that turned the 2020 election into a gnarly electronic nightmare."


cms neuf
3 Dec 2020  #233

Trump had a chance to discuss the issues in the debates - he wasted the first one and didn't turn up for the other 2. At his rallies he never talked about his own achievements, only focused on the Democrats.

That's why he lost - very convincingly by 7m votes.

BTW in case anyone is confused this John Kaminski referred to in Veskos paid trolling is not the same John Kaminski who is a well known PolAm scholar at U. Wisconsin

Rather some anti semite nut job who lives in Florida (if he exists at all that is)

Novichok
3 Dec 2020  #234

Trump lost because he was seen as powerless. What the moron voters didn't know was that it is the stupid federal system that makes presidents powerless and that the life and death authority belongs to the little Hitlers aka governors and mayors. They can destroy your business, make you unemployed, put you under house arrest, and watch with glee how their cities burn and nobody, not the president or even the Supreme Court can do anything about it. America has been exposed to be a gulag without barbed wire, and the morons thought it was Trump's fault.

His fault was that he didn't communicate it properly. Instead, he bragged how he can do things while constitutionally castrated.

Tucker's comment about Portland was spot-on: When people are afraid and feel abandoned, they want change.
And change they got...

Vincent
4 Dec 2020  #235

That's why he lost - very convincingly by 7m votes.

It's not over yet, at least judging by the new video evidence which turned up in Georgia. This has got to prove to anyone honest, that there was indeed ballot fraud.

Novichok
4 Dec 2020  #236

I don't ever want to see Trump in the WH again. Only a total idiot would say the things he did. Like that "Mexico will pay" - just to get the mindless mob to scream applause for a couple of seconds.

A couple of seconds of that dubious pleasure, and, by saying this line, he pissed off Mexico and their president and told everybody in Congres where he is already in the doghouse that he does not need their money for the wall. So, they happily didn't give him any.

Great negotiators don't dumb sh*t like this. They threaten to veto any bill that does not fund his number one project that got him elected and mean it. He was too chicken to veto even those bills that provided even more money for the f****ing illegals than the Bolsheviks expected!!!! In that sense, he was one of them. Goodbye.

Same for "lock her up". The ultimate irony and my prediction: Biden will name Hillary a special prosecutor to nail Trump. If not successful in the fed courts, they will harras him into his first heart attack.

Joker
4 Dec 2020  #237

It's not over yet, at least judging by the new video evidence which turned up in Georgia.

Not the mention the dozens of credible witnesses that testified under oath that the MSM fails to report on. The Dems were surely adamant about reporting and " let the witnesses be heard" when it was about Justice Kavanaugh.

The double standards are sickening and were getting tired of the lying " Do as I say, not as I do" hypocrite Democrats!

They call for us to go into another lockdown, then hop on a private jet to Cabo San Lucas?? FU!!!!

johnny reb
5 Dec 2020  #238

This has got to prove to anyone honest, that there was indeed ballot fraud.

Of course there was Vincent and what makes it worse is that those ballots on the video that were hid under the table in suitcases were counted after the Republicans were all out of the room.

It is a total joke to listen to MSM and CNN keep saying there was no fraud. lol
There are way to many smoking guns confirming the voting WAS rigged.
Well over 60 million people believe there was voters fraud so I guess the media mob haven't bullshitted everyone with their lie.
Now Trump wants all of the dominion voting machines replaced for the Senate vote in Georgia.
Fat chance of that happening.

cms neuf
5 Dec 2020  #239

Well there is only one thing for it - gather the evidence and give it to Crazy Rudy - watching him is hilarious and his witnesses are just as crazy.

Of course this dumb video shows nothing of the kind.

It's over - get ready for Dementia Joe as President. Can't come a moment too soon because Trump has given up - just sleeping and golfing now.

Vincent
5 Dec 2020  #240

watching him is hilarious and his witnesses are just as crazy.

These witnesses signed an affidavit under oath, which I believe means they could go to prison if they told lies in their statement. A bit risky don't you think?

Talking about hilarious, I thought Senator Elena Parent was the most hilarious in the room. She was as nervous as a kitten, and her voice went squeaky trying to defend the democrats. " This was debunked weeks ago" she said, but the chairman added "this video was only released this morning" In another mad moment after watching the video with the rest in the room, she said to the lawyer narrating the video "where your evidence?" The lawyer calmly pointed to the screen and said"you've just watched it" lol.

Her final meltdown speech with her hands waving all over the place, convinced me that all is not quite right there.


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