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USA News and Poland - Part 6



PolAmKrakow
24 Jan 2023  #3121

@pawian
Bidens terrible rating will give way to a Desantis win. Pretty easy math. Hope in one hand and $hit in the other and tell me which fills up faster. Biden all out of hope but has a lot of $hit. When was the last time you were in the US to actually talk to people? Blacks and Hispanics are not going to come out for Biden again. The fanatical left is going to come to a dead stop in two years. All the crazy socialism bull$hit needs to end.

AntV
24 Jan 2023  #3122

Now, who nominated 3 conservative judges to the Supreme Court within the last few years???

That a Justice was nominated by a Republican is not a guarantee that a Justice will decide cases in way that is in agreement with conservative political ideals. Look at Planned Parenthood v Casey that upheld the right to abortion found in Roe, all 5 of the affirming justices were nominated by Republicans. Even those Trump appointed justices have made decisions that offend conservatives. Example, a case (that came before the court on the shadow docket) about covid vax exemptions based on religious beliefs was voted down by Trump appointees. It was also Repub-appointed Chief Justice Roberts who voted to uphold Obamacare--an legislative act loathed by the republican party.

Those are just a small sample of cases Repub-appointed justices have decided cases contrary to the republican party platform. To think a Repub-nominated justice will carry the repub political party's water in how he or she decides cases simply isn't congruent with the record of these justices.

Will you still claim that Repubs had no bearing on the Supreme Court ruling???

But, that's not what you stated. You have stated, in more than one post, that it was the Republican Party/conservatives who abolished Roe. Repubs certainly can have influence in that they put forward certain criteria they look for in nominating justices. But, as history has shown, it oftentimes does not pan out as repubs had hoped for.

I am factoring everything - you conveniently ignore the fact that most Americans are pro choice in different degrees

However you define most, the reality is that even with most Americans being pro-choice at varying degrees, republicans still win elections, 2016, 2022, even in 2020 it was very close. So, repubs win, or, at least, are very competitive with a pro-life platform in a pro-choice environment.

Something like 75% of repubs are pro-life, whereas 10% or less of dems are pro-life and independents are something like 40% pro-life. So, if 30% of pro-life voters only vote for pro-life candidates and 20% of pro-choice voters only vote pro-choice, considering the distribution of pro-life voters as seen above (and i'll go fish for a link to this polling later), who would have the most to lose with a pro-choice platform?

news.gallup.com/poll/246278/abortion-trends-party.aspx

pawian
24 Jan 2023  #3123

will give way to a Desantis win.

No, of course not. I am pretty optimistic about it. :):)

Blacks and Hispanics are not going to come out for Biden again.

Maybe. But they will come out for his successor in droves. Joined by women enraged at the violation of their rights.

All the crazy socialism bull$hit needs to end

Of course. But women have to get their rights back. In other words: Oppressive Repub Carthago must be destroyed. How simple. :):)

Miloslaw
24 Jan 2023  #3124

Bidens terrible rating will give way to a Desantis win.

That's the way I see it too.

No, of course not

You live in cloud cuckoo land......

Oppressive Repub Carthago must be destroyed.

Wrong.

All the crazy socialism bull$hit needs to end.

Right.

Novichok
25 Jan 2023  #3125

Russia saw it and said no - starting with faggots in the schools.

johnny reb
25 Jan 2023  #3126

All the crazy socialism bull$hit needs to end.

A coalition of blacks, Latinos, feminists, gays, government workers, union members, environmental extremists, the media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed that do not want to work, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America as we knew it.

PolAmKrakow
25 Jan 2023  #3127

@pawian
Hillary was optimistic too. Women didn't come out in droves to support Dems in the last elections, neither did other minorities. In fact the records show that in some areas the minorities have flipped to Republican.

The left wants to socially construct a society where everyone fits in to the "group" and no one is an individual any more. This is called socialism. When socialism can only be achieved by a police state, controls in place on peoples movement, currency, purchasing power and what the media presents to them, it is called fascism. Sorry, I am white, and do not want my family diluted by blacks, Hispanic, Hindu or any others because it is what the "woke" society wants. I do not want to be forced to go to any ""church" or subscribe to any group views. I do not have to accept all the fvcking "pronoun" freaks. I don't and wont share bathrooms with them, and I do not have to accept them in any business I own. That is what freedom is. And what America is becoming less and less of.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in wanting your culture to stay what it is. Poland is one of the most successful at this, and it is one of the best things PiS has done. Not that I support them, but they are not wrong on every position. If you want to change your family heritage and gene pool, go right ahead, but do not try to force me or my family to follow yours when we want no part of it.

pawian
25 Jan 2023  #3128

That a Justice was nominated by a Republican is not a guarantee that a Justice will decide

Stop beating about the bush. We are talking about 3 judges nominated by Repub Trump and all of them voted against Roe.
Will you deny this fact??? :):):)

Even those Trump appointed justices have made decisions that offend conservatives

Again, stop beating about the bush. We don`t care about their other rulings, we are talking about overturning Roe. :):):)

You have stated, in more than one post, that it was the Republican Party/conservatives who abolished Roe.

Exactly, I stated it, meaning:

(now, can you read my words carefully coz you seem to not understand basic things. Follow me closely , I will try to make it as simple as possible):

Repub
President
Trump
Nominated.
3
Conservative
Judges
Who
Voted
Against
Roe

Bingo!!

Is it any clearer now? :):):):)

AntV
25 Jan 2023  #3129

There's no beating around the bush. I'm pointing out your premise is wrong, I'm showing you historical facts that show that a justice being nominated by a Republican President doesn't mean he or she decides cases based on Republican political platforms.

You are thinking one-dimensionally in a three-dimensional world.

pawian
25 Jan 2023  #3130

I'm showing you historical facts

Very nice of you coz I love history. ::):)
While I am trying to show you another historical fact about 3 conservative judges nominated by Trump during his term who voted against Roe according to the Repub party`s expectations. And their votes contributed decisively to overturning Roe.

You are thinking one-dimensionally in a three-dimensional world.

Sigh.... :):):)
Tell us: how did 3 judges nominated by Trump vote? Did they vote for or against Roe???

Answer my question. No beating about the bush. No more of those conservative evasions and tricks. :):):)
For or against??
Well.....???? :):):)

AntV
25 Jan 2023  #3131

Who remembers when Georgia made changes to its voting laws there were cries that blacks would be disenfranchised and Georgia was bringing back Jim Crow? The laws were so racist and draconian Major League Baseball pulled the All-Star game out of Atlanta.

Well, 99.5% of blacks who voted in Georgia in 2022 said they had no problems voting.

acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn%3Aaaid%3Ascds%3AUS%3A5f6b0b77-1f88-33da-b86e-c98ead60206c&viewer%21megaVerb=group-discover#pageNum=1

pawian
25 Jan 2023  #3132

Who remembers

For or against??? No more tricks and evasions, please. ):):)

Well.... ???? :):):)

AntV
25 Jan 2023  #3133

@pawian

Obviously 3 of them were nominated by Trump. Your error is the premise that justices vote according to party expectations. As previous scotus nominees have proven, there are no guarantees a justice will decide a case in accord with the nominating party's expectations, which is good-because the court in the US is supposed to function as a judicial body, not a political one.

Besides, if you read Dobbs, you'd notice it's not about making abortion illegal, but about implied rights in the 14th Amendment and federalism. Its over-arching theme is that the constitution never gave the right of privacy implied in Roe and that the legislative process in each state is the rightful decider of abortion protections.

Do you comprehend the distinctions?

pawian
25 Jan 2023  #3134

Your error is the premise that justices vote according to party expectations.

hahaha You are a funny guy - still evading. :):):)

Amy Coney Barrett - Trump`s last nominee. She had had a long history of anti abortion agenda before being appointed to the Supreme Court.

Yet, you claim she wasn`t nominated because of her views and she didn`t vote according to Repub party`s expectations. :):):):)

Do you comprehend?

Currently I comprehend you love evasive manipulation like a typical con. :)

It is for everybody to see. :):):)

AntV
25 Jan 2023  #3135

Your lack of comprehension is stupefying. :) :) :)

pawian
25 Jan 2023  #3136

Your tendency to manipulate and evade is amassing. :):):)

Miloslaw
25 Jan 2023  #3137

As is yours.......

Joker
26 Jan 2023  #3138

Your error is the premise that justices vote according to party expectations.

He is clueless about what happens in America. All he can do is parrot leftard talking points, that's when he isn't making crap up.

Its funny to watch how little he knows, yet his big mouth keeps flapping away...lol

Hes totally consumed about Americans and our politics as you can tell from his multitude of toxic posts. You would think he would be more concerned about his own county and try to make it better..

He just screams jealousy from his little clown world.


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pawian
26 Jan 2023  #3139

clueless about what happens in America.

Yes, do tell us more about your infamous 700 days. Have you already solved that intricate mystery in the number??? hahahaha

Joker
26 Jan 2023  #3140

Its 3:30 am and youre posting on our thread! Hahahaha! You just proved my point on how transfixed you are about our country and what we are doing. What a loser! LOL

Do you sleep with your laptop??? Hahaha

Joker
26 Jan 2023  #3141

Where did you go Monkey one post and thats it? I bet you fell back asleep after that pre dawn post from your computer friendly bed! LOL

pawian
26 Jan 2023  #3142

how transfixed you are about our country

No, actually, I don`t care about your country. A few decades ago I left it and never wished to return. :):): I only need my daily English practice. And I like talking to intelligent people who speak excellent Hoch Deutsch English. E.g., AntV. That`s all. :):):)

I bet you fell back asleep

To fall back asleep I would have had to have been sleeping at all. What makes you think I had???? :):):):) What if my female cat was giving birth to 6 cute kittens and I was attending the event at night???

Where did you go Monkey

Don`t worry. I will be always here for you. Until I die. Or you will. hahahaha

AntV
26 Jan 2023  #3143

The problem (in regards to a conversation) isn't transfixations with America or a lack of desire to return, but the pretense of knowledge about the subject of America. It's nearly impossible to have a constructive conversation about any topic when pretense infects an exchange between people. :)

Novichok
27 Jan 2023  #3144

A short version of the above: It's hard to deal with patronizing ignorants.

Joker
27 Jan 2023  #3145

my female cat was giving birth to 6 cute kittens

I understand. Its the only pussy you can get! LOLOL

No, actually, I don`t care about your country.

Yet, you wake up at 3am to post on the USA thread...too funny!

Joker
27 Jan 2023  #3146

Things I used to trust but no longer.........

Doctors
Elections
Vaccines
CDC/FDA
Govt reasons for war
The Pope
Judges
Military Generals
FBI
DOJ

And I'm not alone! Tens of millions of Americans have awaken in the past few years to how the deep state of corruption has metastasized.


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Novichok
27 Jan 2023  #3147

If the US tanks rolled into Canada, how many Canadians would be willing to die not to become the 51st state?

Lenka
27 Jan 2023  #3148

And what if Mexico came to USA?

Novichok
27 Jan 2023  #3149

Mexico did - all 30 million of them with the DC scum aiding and abetting the invasion.

Bad example so let's stay with mine of the US army invading Canada to annex.

Lenka
27 Jan 2023  #3150

No, immigrants are not army so cut the cr*p


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