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USA News and Poland - Part 6



Cojestdocholery
30 Jul 2022  #961

Their antisemitism is the thing

What is wrong with that? Not a thing. If you in fact knew what Dmowski said about it you would stop adding your opinion. Which is worthless as you are a ignorant rabid progressivist and all you said are your idolgical propaganda slogans not a fact. You are like Russians that brand anything they don't like as Nazis or facists.

You fit that Moscow standard very well. Must be your family legacy.

far nationalist Poles to pogroms and murder.

Again you talk out of your ignorant ass. What pogroms and what murders? The only things called for some reason pogroms happend during the war Polish-Soviets and they were provocted by the commie Jews shooting at the soldiers from Jewish quaters.

Proper pogroams were acts of terror against Jewish population organized by the Russian Ochrana during Tzar times. Those are pogroms, other so called pogroms than that they are figment of Jewish propaganda aimed at American Jews to spur them to make donations to Jews in the eastern europe. They were either exggarating some minor issues or make them up from the thin air.

The only murders and attacks where by thugs both Polish and Jewish and more often than not victims were Polish studends knifed by Jewish pimps or low skilled workers due to some quarrels.

Yet noone in his right mind put that as an anti-Polish rabid attack by nationalistc Jews. When the shoe is on the other foot you do it all the time. That is a lie and slander and you lie because you are Putin of your ideological propagnda.

Veles
30 Jul 2022  #962

Sometimes I'm amazed by the creativity of people who took "We don't need to education" way too seriously.

Novichok
30 Jul 2022  #963

Besides, the main goal of the Americans was to find and kill Bin Laden - that goal was accomplished.

...in 2011. We stayed there for the next 10+ years, so killing Osama who, btw, was in Pakistan, was not the objective. Plus, killing O was a special op not requiring 100,000 US soldiers elsewhere and a trillion bucks. Israel did not send an army to get Eichmann.

The other aspect was discouraging the Taliban from aiding Al Qaeda,

No nation is stupid enough to spend trillions and 20 years to discourage anyone from anything. Except the US - if you assume that this was indeed the objective. It was not, since Al Q was not active in the US enough to justify the expense in dead and money and the US had other and a lot less expensive means to keep terrorists away. The US chose not to implement these means and got 9/11, the Boston massacre, and other preventable acts of terror - like by inviting Muslim scum for training There was zero reasons to go to Afghanistan.

Veles
30 Jul 2022  #964

Plus, killing O was a special op not requiring 100,000 US soldiers

See? The numbers didn't help to accomplish whatever goal the US had according to you.

Besides, I think you posted it in a wrong thread.

Novichok
30 Jul 2022  #965

Again you talk out of your ignorant ass.

That was a great post, Cojest. I am actually surprised that you dignified that idiot with your response.

Besides, I think you posted it in a wrong thread.

I moved it here because it's mostly about the US and I am sick of getting those idiotic O violations.

In my opinion, the US swamp's main task is how spend and still convince the stupid that it's absolutely necessary. The Ukrainian war is the current example. If it's critical to help fight Russia Europe is plentu capable of doing it on its own.

pawian
30 Jul 2022  #966

Dmowski said

Darling fascist, to make a longer story short, Dmowski is a symbol of antisemitism in Poland. He gave rise to the hatred of Jews, although he didn`t hate them personally. But his antiJewish views became popular and fueled the hatred among common nationalist Poles who considered Jews as the cause of all their problems. According to a known proverb: Jews and bike riders are always to blame.

That is enough for me and other decent people to reject Dmowski and his heritage of rabid nationalism.
I don`t need to say more coz we discuss such issues in other threads:
Let me only remind you about Jewish contribution to Polish culture - Dmowski rejected it all.

https://polishforums.com/history/poles-owe-jews-60402/

That was a great post, Cojest

As for a rabid nationalist, yes. As for a decent person, absolutely no. Iron is the same scum as you.

Cojestdocholery
30 Jul 2022  #967

Darling fascist, to make a longer story short, Dmowski is a symbol of antisemitism

So you just proved that every word I have said about you is true. You are Putin son and a comunist, yes it is a symbol in your little read book of communism and that makes you an ignorant scum.

nationalist Poles who considered Jews as the cause of all their problems

They were a kind of problem, At the time what you call nationalistic was patriotic there were no other kinds, thugs, commies and those didn't consider themself Poles.

Even Polish socialists seen Jews as an problem.
like blocking access to some jobs for Poles from lower classes, like jobs in law for example, the question was If a majority of Poles pay taxes and minority of Jews use it to get an univercity education - how is that fair?

You make Dmowski to be only about Jews, that was only a small issue in his views and it was not about Jews but about Poles. Ascribing hate to Jews to him is lame. Jews were hated by all farmers by Ukrainians too, because they formed sort of Jewish cartel that controled prices farmers sold their produce at.

They were really screwed finacially by Jewish kind of monopole, only in the 30' that started to change.

That is enough for me

Defending your ignorance and lack of edcuation are you?

pawian
30 Jul 2022  #968

a comunist,

I have been waiting for it for months. Now we know you are our dear Iron. hahahahaha

However, darling, don`t be so reserved and use typical Iron`s phrase: Soviet.

Lyzko
30 Jul 2022  #969

@Cojest,
I doubt you ever read KWESTIA ZYDOWSKA, but both the text and subtext are unmistakably NOT on the side of the Jews, assimilated or other, as merely fellow Poles of a different faith. To Dmowski, Moscicki along with numerous others, even assimilated Jews (including those who might have converted) were far from considered true Poles!

Half-Jews such as the "Polish Caruso" Jan Kiepura or poet Jan Brzechwa, proud originator of the most renowned of Polish tongue twisters, might have been accorded a different status, yet no doubt they were still deemed Jews rather than Poles, because each had a Jewish mother.

Veles
30 Jul 2022  #970

@Lyzko

Why do you mention MoĊ›cicki?

Also, the assimilated Jews were treated with hostility not only by Polish nationalists, but also by the turbo-Jewish Jews. Julian Tuwim complained about it.

Cojestdocholery
30 Jul 2022  #971

I doubt you ever read KWESTIA ZYDOWSKA,

I doubt that you did. What you make him to be? Some petty idiot making lists of Jews? Who is and who isn't? You are being stupid.

However, darling,

so you give up and admit I'm right about you.

Lyzko
30 Jul 2022  #972

I read him in Polish and although admittedly I often had to re-read certain passages, I doubtless understand much more Polish than you would reading Henry Ford's manifest in English:-)

pawian
30 Jul 2022  #973

so you give up

Darling, I won`t discuss such important issues in off topic threads which are regularly cleaned and discussions are lost. We can move to a proper thread.

Cojestdocholery
30 Jul 2022  #974

doubtless understand much more

I doubt you understand much in any launguage.

We can move to a proper thread.

go for it if you have anything to say.

pawian
30 Jul 2022  #975

go for it

The thread about Dmowski was closed but there are others and I have just done.

johnny reb
30 Jul 2022  #976

I think you bean brains may be posting your "who cares" in the wrong thread.

My dog understood that but they didn't.

We can move to a proper thread.

Hey Goofy, now your cooking with gas.

Hey, JR, did you notice that the stupidest people here are teachers?

Of course they are, Novi, and this would include not only Pawndog but all the ex-pats in Poland like joun, delph/AntiPutin, Hairy, and the rest of the little Brit bullies.

They all have that superiority complex until the Americans showed up and cleaned house.
I sht you not Novi, there was a point in time here you would get suspended if you mentioned the word teacher.
And if you challenged one of the idiots they would gang up on you, attack you, try to diminish you, try to shame you and keep it up until they ran that member out of here.

You were either with them or against them.
That is why it has been a god send that you showed up to leveled the playing field.
You seem to pop their superiority complex balloon in high fashion. :-)

Novichok
30 Jul 2022  #977

I appreciate your comments even if undeserved. I wish there were more normal people here - like Spike, Poloniusz, and Dirk. Joker is great but seems too busy working or he got sick of this place - just as Bobko and Velund.

johnny reb
30 Jul 2022  #978

No doubt it is a 'Us' and "Them" forum.
Conservatives v.s. the Libtards.

pawian
30 Jul 2022  #979

Of course they are, Novi,

You say so coz you are envious of our brilliance, knowledge and fantastic interaction with people which you all lack coz you are... you know what, I already told in in Random hahahaha

just as Bobko and Velund.

That is natural selection - the forum rejects scum and promotes decent people. What are you still doing here is a mystery to me. hahahaha

Novichok
30 Jul 2022  #980

Conservatives v.s. the Libtards.

The other great divide is Americans vs Euros. Even those who are not in the US permanently but did spend some time here exhibit those positive traits that make human-to-human interaction doable. Like PAK and maf - the guys I disagree with but still respect.

Those that never got that American 1st Amendment virus are instantly detectable and very hard to take. At least they found their way to this American forum.

johnny reb
30 Jul 2022  #981

It's the Brit's that are the odious ones.
Right down to disgusting and pathetic..
Besides Vagina Boy, the Poles are even bearable.

pawian
30 Jul 2022  #982

he got sick of this place

While you never get sick of it. The forum does of you from time to time. :):):)

johnny reb
30 Jul 2022  #983

As it does you Pinhead. :-o
Everyone adores me though.
I am mentioned more than anyone else here. :-)

Miloslaw
30 Jul 2022  #984

The other great divide is Americans vs Euros

I disagree.
That is a divide that Jim promotes and we all know what a narrow minded bigoted old fool he is.
Don't fall into his trap Rich.

Everyone adores me though

Don't fool yourself....you are probably the most despised poster on this forum.

Novichok
30 Jul 2022  #985

Don't fall into his trap Rich.

Nobody is more opinionated and independent than me so there is no chance of anyone swaying me in any way - good or bad.

That said, as they say, I stand by my opinion that we are different and not in a good way for the Euros - in general. Exceptions to the normal always exist.

The basis for my claim is the frequency of how often we, the Americans here and the Euros, rip into our governments. We, Americans, hate our ruling class and say so openly and often. Euros - never. They only quote and say "we understand".

You have to squeeze any negative comments about your ruling mafias like you squeeze an almost-empty tube of toothpaste. They will wiggle, obfuscate, justify, explain, and give Civics lectures but never say "I hate these mother fu*ckers because they deliberately destroy my country by letting the hordes of Muslim scum in". Never, ever can you read this here.

This leads to two possible explanations. Either you, Euros, love said foreign scum (which means you are suicidal morons) or you are afraid to say it fearing your thought police and prosecution for "hate speech" - a concept unknown here as a crime.

This was just an example, not an invitation to a debate about the evil of open borders, which, btw, is not open to a debate.

johnny reb
31 Jul 2022  #986

there is no chance of anyone swaying me

Looks like Milopox is getting nervous that is has lost all his allies.
You just told him to get lost.
His new buddy Pawian has told him off today

Your main occupation here is attacking johhny and other members. You entirely focus on it.

I have him on the Ignore function.
Gees, it looks like the only allie the little bully has left to ass kiss is The Joke.
All that ass kissing got you nowhere now did it, you little Yipper Nerd. Hoot !
(ie: Nice post pawian, nice post rich, nice post Paulina, Nice post Joke, nice post ......kiss kiss kiss)
So shallow.

Joker
31 Jul 2022  #987

Biden the traitor has been trying to talk Nancy Pelosi out of her trip to Taiwan.

I bet she caves....or will she?

Why did that he announce it in the first place? Hes a bumbling fool.


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gregy741
31 Jul 2022  #988

Hes a bumbling fool.

he just got covid yesterday(again) gotta excuse the old man.he only had 6 boosters .

Joker
31 Jul 2022  #989

He stopped blinking his eyes afterwards...
Biden Sounds Sick in Viral Video, Doesn't Blink for 42 Seconds as Eyes Look Taped Open
westernjournal.com/biden-sounds-sick-viral-video-doesnt-blink-42-seconds-eyes-look-taped-open/

All those lefty morons who voted for Biden surely must have buyers remorse or theyre completely stupid.

Again?? On boy!

gregy741
31 Jul 2022  #990

He stopped blinking his eyes afterwards...

they forgot to tell him to blink.


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