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USA News and Poland - Part 6



johnny reb
12 Aug 2022  #1171

@PolAm

I am very proud to have earned everything I have and give to my family, friends and communities.

Tell us one more time how proud of yourself you are, what a great guy you are, how wealthy you are, how successful you are, what a world traveler you are, and how your farts smell roses.

Now tell us how much you tithed back to the Lord that made it all possible for your success.

PolAmKrakow
12 Aug 2022  #1172

@Novichok
Great point. If you are not lying, or do not have reason to lie, or have not lied about something, they you do not need to take the 5th.

As for who or where I give money, that is no ones business. Enjoy your glass house.

You know what is great about Trump? He has a copy of the warrant and all the details. Why hasn't he released it? Everyone screaming for its release should just tell Trump to release it. But wait, Garland now sent a request to Trump lawyers asking if they object to Garland releasing it. So what will all of you Trump supporters say when Trump doesn't release his copy, when he objects to Garland releasing it, or when it is released that there is proof of Trump having documents in his home that he should have left at the White House or that they were Top Secret? What then?

johnny reb
12 Aug 2022  #1173

You know what is great about Trump?

There are just to many great things about Teflon Trump to mention.
You have got to let your TDS go PolAm.
Crooked Hillary and her Crooked Foundation are the ones that deserve hanging.

As for who or where I give money, that is no ones business.

So you don't tithe is what you are trying to say ?
Stingy people don't impress anyone.

PolAmKrakow
12 Aug 2022  #1174

@johnny reb
Again please point out where I supported Hillary. You wont find anything. She can be hung for all I care. But Donny now has a decision to make. Does he release the warrant and supporting information, or does Garland release it, or does little Donny object to the release because he will be outed?

I dont cave to peer pressure or Catholic guilt JR. Thats childish, and it is exactly one of the reasons so many young people are leaving the church.

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1175

they you do not need to take the 5th.

Taking the 5th is not necessary. Just refuse to talk since there is no upside in talking to the police. A judge can compel your testimony only as a witness but after they give you immunity.

The best example of how otherwise intelligent people can fall into the "I am innocent" trap was Gen. Flynn. Quoting from Wikipedia:

The two agents met Flynn at his office later that day and asked Flynn about his exchanges with Kislyak...

Instead telling them to get the fu*ck out, the idiot talked...We know the rest of the story. Never!

johnny reb
12 Aug 2022  #1176

@PolAm

Again please point out where I supported Hillary.

Again, please point out where I said you did even though it is obvious you did by refusing to entertain her sins.

But Donny now has a decision to make. Does he release the warrant and supporting information

The warrant was to search for some nuclear documents that Trump refused to turn over is my take on it so far.
The whole raid caught on surveillance cameras.
The F.B.I. really botched it by searching where the warrant didn't allow them to search.
Your TDS is overbearing.
Didn't you say yourself that we should move on.
I think we should go back and kick in Crooked Hillary's door to find the her cell phones that she smashed to hide evidence first.

PolAmKrakow
12 Aug 2022  #1177

@Novichok
I went to law school. As a prosecutor or defense attorney, the first thing they teach you about the 5th is that you invoke the 5th when there is not a rational explanation for an action, or set of circumstances. Rational explanation being what the a competent person who is a high school graduate would understand. This is the legal standard. Taking the 5th, is generally considered in a legal standard to not be an admission of guilt, but a verification of a question of guilt. Innocent men have never plead the 5th.

@johnny reb
I don't need to entertain her sins because she was not President, and I don't GAF about her. You keep bringing her up as though her guilt somehow makes Trump less guilty.

As for the warrant, Garland moved to unseal the warrant. Trump will likely object to that today because he only has until this afternoon, or it all comes out. You are arguing legal questions with me and you have zero training or factual basis. The warrant was signed by a judge only after Trump refused subpoena's. Trumps own people said everything was legal and the search was limited to a very specific area. That is how things work. The judge who signed off on it has an excellent reputation. He has donated to Republican candidates like Jeb Bush. Want to talk about cell phone records, what happened to all the cell phone records on January 6th?

Trump is a criminal, Hillary is a criminal. Prosecute each of them to the fullest extent of the law. Lock them both up.

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1178

Innocent men have never plead the 5th.

Like I said, pleading the 5th is a cute legal verbal dance nobody is required to perform. All you have to say to end the conversation with any cops is "I want a lawyer" or "I am not talking". After 10 hours, totally innocent people will admit to anything, murder included just to get some rest. Later, they find out that all they had to do is ask "am I under arrest?" get up and walk right out after they say "no, you are not". Short detention aside.

PolAmKrakow
12 Aug 2022  #1179

@Novichok
Normally I respect your arguments on this kind of issue. Guilty men never take the 5th, they do ask for an attorney to be present. The attorney, knowing the prosecution thresholds advises the client to take the 5th when there is a great risk that an incriminating statement can be made. Attorneys never have and never will advise and innocent man to not defend himself or his actions. The burden or proof in a civil case is preponderance of the evidence, and in this regard, Trump will lose when many of the cases lined up against him get to trial. The burden of proof in a criminal case is beyond a "reasonable" doubt, not beyond all doubt, not beyond a little doubt. Reasonable doubt when Trump has already once been caught hiding documents at his home could be established by claiming mistake. But on a second occasion when in the same house more documents were snitched out by his own people, is not a mistake. Can we stop the nonsense?

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1180

Guilty men never take the 5th, they do ask for an attorney to be present.

This is getting too sloppy. "Guilty" has only one meaning: found guilty by a judge or a jury or by guilty plea. I am talking about the first and hopefully only - if one has the brains - "conversation" with the cops.

Optionally, it is smart to remove yourself from the suspect or "persons of interest" list as soon as possible or STFU. Pleading the 5th "not to incriminate myself" is legally permissible and also utterly stupid when talking to the cops or the FBI agents.

Since jurors, just like voters, are morons, they will conclude that only the "guilty" plead the 5th. One does not need to know the US Constitution to say "fu*ck off" to the cops - a low-class equivalent of "Under the advice of my attorney, I plead my 5th Amendment rights not to incriminate myself". This may be impressive to the judge but is the stupidest thing to say to the cops when they look at the guy as a suspect. "Get lost. I am leaving" is better. Bottom line: always assume that you are on camera and that the scene with be shown later to the jury. Act accordingly.

Showing too much knowledge of the law - the kind that only habitual criminals get - is really dumb. "Guys, I am done and I am leaving" is better than reciting fine points of the Constitution.

When four squad cars surrounded me because some stupid Karen called them on me, my first question was: "Did I break any laws?" No. "Am I under arrest?" No. "Am I free to go?", Not yet.

In five minutes, after a brief detention, I was.

Later, I met one of the cops and he told me that I did everything by the book.

PolAmKrakow
12 Aug 2022  #1181

@Novichok
Again, I agree with you. However, the Trump events do not fit any of those circumstances. The guy really is an idiot. WTF was he thinking taking WH documents in the first place? Come on, that is just stupidity. Time and again, he proves he has next to zero real analytical intelligence. The leader of the free world? He isn't qualified to lead anything but a circus. Wait until the fraud trial comes in NY for his real estate claims. Trump University anyone? This isn't some average schmoe getting surrounded by the cops. This was once the most powerful man in the world.

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1182

Time and again, he proves he has next to zero real analytical intelligence. The leader of the free world?

Two points. Trump was a big-shot CEO and empowered to do a lot more than a US president. This became his habit and a reason why he wouldn't listen to his lawyers.

Second: Unfortunately, anyone over 35 born here can be president. The requirements to groom presidential dogs are stricter.

As I said earlier, aside from any cheating by the Bolsheviks, he lost because he was not conservative enough and too much for the "oh my god, he said pussy" suburbanite women.

As far as 2024, the Bolsheviks may regret killing Trump's candidacy and leaving the field to DeSantis or someone like him.

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1183

His shortcomings aside, Trump's appeal to normal Americans like Joker, JR, and me is that he truly was an America-first president. And that is why the globalist mafia as Hillary and Obongo couldn't stand him.

With the top 1% against him, including the RINOs, to get elected as he did was a miracle. The globalist swamp can't forgive, forget, and risk a repeat. That's why he has been treated to two impeachments and now to the Soviet-style "hearings". As in the USSR, his witnesses were not invited.

His alleged "criminality" is K-grade play compared to the rest of them, Hillary included. No, the American justice system is neither fair nor blind.

pawian
12 Aug 2022  #1184

normal Americans like Joker, JR, and me

Normal Americans are like you????? Amasing. I thought it is quite the opposite - you are abnormal and the rest are normal. Why? Coz you hate everything and everybody except your attention seeking ego. It is impossible that such an approach to life and other people is considered a norm in the USA. Ha!

PolAmKrakow
12 Aug 2022  #1185

@Novichok
Its politics. Dont like it, dont get in the ring. Both sides should be blown up IMO. I will give you that he was an America First President. I actually like the position, but not at the sacrifice of international responsibility. There is a middle area that I believe DeSantis will fill brilliantly.

Yes, he was a CEO. Surrounded by experts who did the thinking for him. Silver spoon child who never earned anything on his own. Anything he has done on his own has over time turned to $hit. Atlantic City which he owned half of, is a Fing ghost town with 50% unemployment. Trump Tower, which I have been in, is not so impressive, and it is one of the things that will get him indicted.

Agreed, American Justice is neither blind or fair. It is what it is, and if a former President doesnt like it, then he didnt do enough to change it, even though congress and the senate were sucking is *ick for four years. He is a baffoon, an intellectual embarrassment, and incapable of leading a nation out of what is a $hit situation. A ham sandwich is a better candidate.

Lyzko
12 Aug 2022  #1186

Trump put his foot in his mouth once again when reported as saying that he wishes his Pentagon brass acted more like Hitler's generals.

What the idiot obviously never learned is that it was Hitler's generals who were actually the ones plotting AGAINST him!!

Had he ever heard of the "July Plot" by Stauffenberg and others to assassinate Hitler??

This is the same President who once decried immigrants from "s####t-hole countries" coming into the States, whereas he would have preferred people from Sweden, Germany or Norway.

Trump, the mega-capitalist, seriously ignored the fact that it is precisely those Third Worlders who make it possible to live in this country as an average middle-class American! How could the average person subsist if they had to pay Northern European salaries to professionals from those countries?

johnny reb
12 Aug 2022  #1187

Trump put his foot in his mouth once again

I sure glad dementia joe never does that every time he opens his mouth. Hoot !

Does he release the warrant and supporting information,

The supporting information was all declassified documents. Pfffft !

TRUMP 24' !

PolAmKrakow
12 Aug 2022  #1188

@johnny reb
You need a psychological intervention.

Supporting information? All secret documents stolen by Trump in violation of laws governing the protection of WH documents. You need serious help.

pawian
12 Aug 2022  #1189

johnny reb
You need a psychological intervention.

All of them - the so called "normal Americans" - Novy, johhny, Jokery. hahahaha

normal Americans like Joker, JR, and me

buhahahahaha

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1190

Hey, PAK, if you had to be president, what would you do by (1) executive orders and (2) through Congress? Can you give me the top five items each?

First, they tried collusion. Now, it's nuclear something... As long as Drudge can use the red big font to scare the hell out of the fence sitters...

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1191

'This is a sad day': Ellen DeGeneres posts heartfelt message after ex-girlfriend Anne Heche, 53, is declared dead days after fiery cocaine-fuelled crash - with star's heart being kept beating to preserve organs for donation

No, Ellen, it's not sad when a moron with an AR shoots into the crowded mall and kills himself. It's something to celebrate because the idiot will never have a chance to kill you or me.

Yes, she, like all other "celebrities", was molested when she was 16 but didn't mention it to anyone.

Paulina
12 Aug 2022  #1192

@Novichok, no, she was sexually abused by her father up until she was 12 years old. He gave her herpes, but her mommy claimed she didn't know what was going on. Also, one of her sisters died because of heart problems when she was a baby, her second sister died of a brain tumor and her brother died after driving into a tree when he was 18 years old. Stuff like that can really damage people for life and mess with their psyche, but how would you know that - you're a sociopath devoid of empathy, after all.

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1193

you're devoid of empathy, after all.

Empathy? I am glad the moron committed suicide. I only wish she would call me first to ask how to do it without endangering others. Speeding while intoxicated is a very bad way.

I used to drink. I also liked driving fast. But not at the same time because I was too afraid I might kill somebody.

Paulina
12 Aug 2022  #1194

@Novichok, I don't know if she was a "moron" or whether she wanted to commit suicide. Judging by what I've read she was probably an addict (I wouldn't be surprised, all things considered). From what I know she didn't hurt anyone.

And yes, I do think it's sad, or rather tragic, because if it wasn't for the horrific things she went through as a kid, she probably wouldn't become an addict and this wouldn't happen.

Empathy?

Yes, you have serious deficit of that.

johnny reb
12 Aug 2022  #1195

- you're a sociopath

Well of course, everyone that ruffles your feathers is a sociopath.
Which boils down to "meaningless" on your part.

in violation of laws governing the protection of WH documents.

You mean like bleach biting subpoenaed e-mails by the F.B.I. like Crooked Hillary did.
Get a grip PolAm, you are the one that needs serious help with your TDS.

Paulina
12 Aug 2022  #1196

But not at the same time because I was too afraid I might kill somebody.

That's great, but people under influence of alcohol or drugs often don't think straight.

Well of course, everyone that ruffles your feathers is a sociopath.

Of course not.

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1197

From what I know she didn't hurt anyone.

Her precision driving at 90 mph while intoxicated was amazing...

And yes, I do think it's sad, or rather tragic, because if it wasn't for the horrific things

You have no moral or legal right to connect these dots. Just a wag...
One can be an addict - at home. In fact, I want all addicts to overdose - sooner rather than later - and die. Nobody, especially their families, needs them.

Yes, you have serious deficit of that.

...a total lack of...You are too nice. Now I am doing a Village Idiot impersonation.

Paulina
12 Aug 2022  #1198

@Novichok, I have the same right to connect dots as anyone. And you don't have to be a genius or a psychologist to connect those dots:

americanaddictioncenters.org/blog/the-link-between-child-abuse-and-substance-abuse

"Adults who were abused or neglected during childhood often turn to drugs and alcohol for self-medicated coping."

Her precision driving at 90 mph while intoxicated was amazing...

Sorry, but I don't get what your point is.

In fact, I want all addicts to overdose - sooner rather than later - and die. Nobody, especially their families, needs them.

As I wrote - you are a sociopath devoid of empathy. Btw, would you say the same if your granddaughter became an addict for some reason?

Novichok
12 Aug 2022  #1199

Btw, would you say the same if your granddaughter became an addict for some reason?

Of course, not. Just like everybody else, including you, I am a normal hypocrite. Please tell me that you treat those you love better thn the remaining 7 billion people.

Sorry, but I don't get what your point is.

That was a sarcastic way of saying that the fact she didn't kill anyone was luck, not her skill and credit.

PolAmKrakow
13 Aug 2022  #1200

@Novichok
Five things I would have done? I would have also built a wall. I would have then created a path to citizenship for those in the country illegally that could prove they have been working productively and paying taxes for at least five years. Changed IRS code to simplify taxes, while creating a flat corporate tax. Create a government owned oil and gas company to produce the fossil fuels needed to stabilize prices, while a timeline to eliminate fossil fuel use with green energy was created. Create a construction and fossil fuel job training program while funding infrastructure repair to all federal roads, etc.

That was easy. But of course, congress on one side or another would try to ruin things. Too much corporate money in lobbying and back door payments.

Its funny how all the sheep get excited about government money being given away in stimulus and unemployment benefits, yet they forget the government took that money from us all anyway. Government needs to be small, not big. Projects can be big without big politics.

Notice, not one program outside of the US? It is not that I dont want to see an America first policy. It is the person leading that has to unite the country to believe in what will make the country better in the short and long term. Trump and Biden do not do this. But we sure dont hear leftists screaming about DeSantis being unfair do we? No problem with Florida taxes and how the state operates. Dems werent crying about mask mandates, everyone had a choice, and Florida had fewer problems with everything by just leaving people to make their own choices. That is the guy for the future. Continuing to look back does nothing but make the country look foolish.


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