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USA News and Poland - part 11



Lyzko
22 Oct 2024  #841

That's sure the pot calling the kettle black, I must say!

Gaslighting again, Gregory??

Novichok
23 Oct 2024  #842

It's depressing...

"Intreviewing Kamala is like talking to a ghost"...

She is running against herself if you compare what she did and what she lies she wants to do.



RINOs are the worst scum walking on this earth.

Novichok
23 Oct 2024  #843

Comment of the day:

If genitals don't determine gender, how does removing them affirm it?

johnny reb
23 Oct 2024  #844

this then will come out during the beginning of his second term

So you finally concede that Trump has won this election.
I have tickets to go see him speak in Traverse City Michigan (Not far from where I live) this Friday night.
Pictures to follow to put on your classroom wall. Hoot !
USA - USA - USA - USA !

PolAmKrakow
23 Oct 2024  #845

muscle their way into office a la Hitler

You mean like the way Kumala muscled her way into the nomination after receiving ZERO votes in the primaries? That kind of democracy is called a coup.

jon357
23 Oct 2024  #846

Kamala muscled her way

Very good too. A bit of muscle helps.

johnny reb
23 Oct 2024  #847

That kind of democracy is called a coup.

Shows you just how deep the putrid Swamp goes.
They got away with stealing the last election but it ain't gonna happen again.
The American people have had a belly full of these Woke Globalists.
Pictures to follow to put on your classroom wall.

I am taking my drone to get some close-up pictures of Trump. lol

Novichok
23 Oct 2024  #848

I finally figured out my problem here and elsewhere: I refuse to be emotional where pure logic is sufficient to solve a problem.

The good news is that I am not the only one. When some nut is ready to jump to his death, the crowd eggs him on to do just that - here and now because they know that he may try again and drag others with him.

The emotional idiots will try to run to the roof and save him. They will feeeeel so good if successful and ignore the consequences of the azhole choosing a head-on with a school bus later that day.

That's why women and assfuckers should not be allowed to vote.

Ironside
23 Oct 2024  #849

finally figured out my problem here and elsewher

You are a moron. I'm glad you finally see the truth.

Novichok
23 Oct 2024  #850

Just got back from a business trip to Oakland of all places. I think California has lost touch with what normal looks like anymore, because what I saw in Oakland reaches post-apocalyptic levels of disfunction. Californians continue to vote for the status-quo because they no longer remember "normal."

A slow death by a million cuts...

Hey, Backside, I see that you posted some crap but I don't see it. You are wasting your time, moron...

Novichok
23 Oct 2024  #851

Boy, 14, killed himself after AI chatbot he was in love with sent him eerie message.
Let's call it "shaking the tree". If you are that stupid at 14, investing in you is a waste. Adios...

At the same time, I wish the parents success in their lawsuit against the creators. This shlt has no business in a healthy society.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13992101/teen-boy-suicide-chatbot-ai-message.html

AntV
23 Oct 2024  #852

@Lyzko

I just watched the NBC News interview with Harris.

Harris was asked about abortion access and the possibility of concessions, for example, religious exemptions. Her response was ': I don't think we should be making concessions when we're talking about a fundamental freedom to make decisions about your own body."

I recall you claimed to be knowledgable of the US Constitution. Do you see a Constitutional problem or error in her comments?

Novichok
23 Oct 2024  #853

to make decisions about your own body.

Abortion is not a decision about your own body. It's about the body of the unborn.

A woman is always free to commit suicide on her own. A balcony or a bridge is all she needs. She is not entitled to demand we do it for her or the unborn child.

In Poland where routine abortiions are illegal, the female suicide rate 2.4 per 100k. In the US, with abortions close to 1 million a year, the suicide rate among women is 6.8.

Conclusion: Nearly total ban on abortions does not cause women to be desperate enough to commit suicide.

So the question boils down to how many women die in Poland from illegal and self-inflicted abortions.

Conveniently, no data is available. Only stories...

6 Stories Show the Human Toll of Poland's Strict Abortion Laws

time.com/6320172/poland-abortion-laws-maternal-health-care/

AntV
23 Oct 2024  #854

@Novichok

But that doesn't answer my question. My question is there any problems with her statement in regards to the Constitution.

Lyzko
23 Oct 2024  #855

@AntV,
The US Constitution has clearly proven itself a most imperfect document which needed revamping
generations ago, but somehow was never put to the test because Roosevelt was so exceedingly
popular by only his second term, that he won two more and set a precedent later to be revoked by the
Supreme Court, namely, that no sitting president may serve more than two terms.

I for one couldn't agree more with the idea of term limits. On the other hand, who knew that FDR was going
to be so good. Had he been a Trump-style president, the US might well have easily sided with Hitler from the beginning,
IBM would in all likelihood have been given governmental seal of approval to cooperate openly with Hollerith in expediting the
Holocaust, and we would have been living in a very different America.

@Miloslaw, as a Brit, you're obviously aware that the UK, that is, England, never had a constitution as exists here in
the United States. Given that, the idea as you put it that a monarchy can exist within a democracy doesn't even apply to
the US, since we were never a monarchy, albeit under monarchic rule until we finally vanquished King George.

Trump/Vance is nothing more than a cancer, a blight upon our democracy, a carbuncle which must be expunged, and completely
un-American in character. However, Trump isn't comparable to the "Sonderweg" of German history which culminated in Adolf Hitler,
if for no other reason than Hitler proved frighteningly enough to be the natural culmination of German history rather than a deviation of history
which is embodied in the US by Trump/Vance and their MAGGOT Republicans, eating away at the fiber, the fabric of order and civility!

AntV
23 Oct 2024  #856

@Lyzko

How does that answer my question of whether or not Harris' answer to the question of abortion access and possible concessions is problematic or erroneous constitutionally?

Maybe I've misunderstood, but you are an academic with an advanced degree in history or something like that, correct?

Novichok
23 Oct 2024  #857

How does that answer my question of whether or not

That will teach you to avoid this idiot.

johnny reb
24 Oct 2024  #858

How does that answer my question

He never answers any questions that stymie him.
Maybe I've misunderstood, but you are an academic with an advanced degree in history

At a junior college which is nothing more than a glorified high school.

Novichok
24 Oct 2024  #859

Baby shot dead by toddler in medical center parking lot
One of the toddlers grabbed a long gun from the back of the vehicle and fired one round, striking Khamari in the head and killing him, officials said.


What really pisses me off is that when six cops unload 100 rounds at some azhole, the azholes survives.

Maybe they should hire that toddler to be the range instructor.

PolAmKrakow
24 Oct 2024  #860

@AntV
The US Constitution does not provide any right to abortion. The USSC decision in Roe was based on a persons right to privacy, and in 1973 the decision was based on very new arguments, and very little information. Fifty years later in overturning Roe, there was a lot more information, and many more court decisions made to base the courts decision on. The US Constitution never contemplated DNA, abortions, or any other medical issues. Those decisions were left to the States to decide, and thats as it should be. Abortion should not be a form of contraception. We now know that after seven weeks, the unborn child has its own completely unique DNA, and is therefore scientifically not part of a womans boddy, but is connected to it. That, for me is the end point of when any abortion could be considered legal. States make their own laws, and the leftists want big National Government involved in everything and thats the issue.

The LA Times top Editor just resigned because the owner of the paper vetoed the paper endorsing Kumala. Now that is poetic. From the State that has some of the worst problems and cant manage a budget, the editor wanted another tax and spend idiot to be endorsed. The editor, a female of course, thinks for some reason her resignation means something to anyone? No one gives a fvck about her or what she wanted. If the owner doesnt want to endorse, its his right not to. The stupidity of the left is never ending.

Joker
24 Oct 2024  #861

How does that answer my question of whether or not Harris'

Its called gaslighting and he does it all the time. Usually, invoking FDR into his diatribe along with sermons about yesteryear.


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johnny reb
24 Oct 2024  #862

Quoting:
Trump and has offered sparse details for how he would carry out the "largest deportation operation in American history," but has cemented the goal as a top priority.
What is known: The strategy would rely on military troops, friendly state and local law enforcement, and wartime powers.
USA - USA - USA !

AntV
24 Oct 2024  #863

The US Constitution does not provide any right to abortion. The USSC decision in Roe was based on a persons right to privacy, and in 1973 the decision was based on very new arguments, and very little information.

Yes, Roe tried to make abortion a "penumbra" fundamental right--the right to privacy. Dobbs corrected that and brought it back to the states to decide its permissiveness. In other words, it isn't a fundamental right.

However the main problem with her answer is she does not recognize the ENUMERATED fundamental right of the free exercise of religion enshrined in the First Amendment.

The interviewer explicitly asked if she'd make a concession to her abortion mandate for religious exemptions from having to provide abortions. Her answer was that we shouldn't talk about concessions when contemplating the fundamental right to a woman's right to choose what she can do with her body.

In other words, she's willing to deny the First Amendment fundamental right to free exercise of religion--a right enumerated in the US Constitution--to implement a nationwide abortion mandate. She is willing to allow government to infringe on a religious entity (a church, doctor, hospital) for exercising its religious beliefs to mandate abortions on demand. That is, in effect, making abortion a supra-fundamental right.

That will teach you to avoid this idiot.

I need to heed that lesson.

Bobko
24 Oct 2024  #864

Roe tried to make abortion a "penumbra" fundamental right

I was once listening to a podcast about famous SC decisions (More Perfect from WNYC). They discussed Griswold vs Connecticut, where Justice Douglas first used the term "penumbra". It was an interesting discussion, from which I learned quite a bit.

So, first, how did Justice Douglas use it? Well, he wrote for the court that certain ENUMERATED Constitutional guarantees have penumbras formed by emanations from these rights that give them light and substance.

"Penumbra" comes from two Latin words, that mean "near shadow". It's a term from the world of astronomy, where its modern and most common meaning is "the zone of shadow outside of the main central shadow that is cast by a celestial light like the sun".

If you think of a total solar eclipse, where the moon is casting a shadow on the Earth - the central and darkest part is called the umbra. And the penumbra is the less dark, outer fuzzy edge of that shadow where... the darkness is not as complete.

So anyway, they find a real astronomer and ask him what he thinks of Justice Douglas' use of a scientific term as a metaphor for a concept he was developing in the legal world. The astronomer tells them that he "cannot endorse" Justice Douglas' analogy.

Then, they talk to this professor, David Garrow, who studied and wrote about Douglas extensively. This was their discussion, from the transcript on the website:

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David Garrow:

Given Justice Douglas' reputation, pulling these concepts out of the air, almost literally out of the astronomical air. Unfortunately, that was par for the course with Justice Douglas.

Kelly Prime:

He had this reputation for being a brilliant legal mind, but also kind of a jerk, not to mention a womanizer, and kind of lazy. His former clerk said his opinions were, quote, "Drafted in 20 minutes, easy to ignore." There's another quote here that they were "superficial" or just "plain sloppy". That's strong.

David Garrow:

It's almost unprecedented for a justice's former clerks to speak critically, highly critically of the justice, subsequently in public.


///

Later it's mentioned that, for example, Justice Clarence Thomas had a sign in his chambers at the Supreme Court saying, "Please don't emanate in the penumbras."

I thought this might be pretty funny to share. A clueless Supreme Court Justice borrowed a term from astronomy that he thought was useful for his purposes, and it has since turned into one of the most cited terms in the common law universe, despite being used incorrectly.

AntV
24 Oct 2024  #865

One of the commentaries on "Griswold" that I read spent several paragraphs on Douglas' faulty usage of the "penumbra" term. When reading it ,I thought the faulty usage of the term is a metaphor for Substantive Due Process: it's faulty in itself.

Bobko
24 Oct 2024  #866

it's faulty in itself

Terrible potential for judicial overreach - which is not possible in our Polish and Russian Romani-Germanic codex based legal systems. This is not to say they are superior to your common law systems.

P.S. It sort of blew my mind when I realized that a Supreme Court Justice is not necessarily an unqualified genius, but rather an imperfect political appointee.

Bobko
24 Oct 2024  #867

Romano-Germanic, sorry.

Romani-Germanic is something I hope we will never see.

Here's what I meant: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_(legal_system)

Novichok
24 Oct 2024  #868

to implement a nationwide abortion mandate.

What is an abortion mandate? Mandate means "you must". Must what? And who is the must-er? Pregnant person or the doctor?

Bobko
24 Oct 2024  #869

What is an abortion mandate?

In this specific case, it means an obligation by government agencies to enforce the rule that an individual health insurance plan, whether bought personally or provided by the government, covers abortion as part of reproductive health coverage.

PolAmKrakow
24 Oct 2024  #870

reproductive health

How can that be called reproductive health and keep a straight face? Bottom line is that the States decide, and thats how it should be. Not the leftist socialist way of a national government controlling everything.

The October surprise? A lady has come forward claiming Trump groped her in 1993 after meeting him through Epstien. How many more of these fvcktards are we going to have to listen to about something alleged over 30 years ago?


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