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2016 Presidential Elections in the US



johnny reb
17 Jul 2016  #2131

she's got to go after Trump more, expose his far worse lies, deceptions and so forth

Which lies would those be Lyzko ?

But, but, but what if there are no "so forth's" as I have asked you to post if you know of any and you can't seem to come up with any.
Now go back in this thread and I have posted endless crimes of Crooked Hillary. (That is how she got her name)
Even in today's news they are suggesting that she should righteously be hung.

Lyzko
17 Jul 2016  #2132

Her campaign'll pull a rabbit out of their hat in the form of some deus ex machina just before the eleventh hour, trust me:-)

johnny reb
17 Jul 2016  #2133

That is how her career has worked so far........"The Untouchable Clinton Crime family".

Did you know that in the last eight years since Obama has been president and under her watch that 3,459 people have been killed in Chicago yet they have done squat to help the problem and only use these killings to disarm America and advance her political pot and pan banging.
Did you know that since Obama has come into office that there are more people now on Food Stamps, out of work and living in poverty, the national debt has increased by $19 TRILLION and you want to elect Crooked Hillary to keep these failures going !
This is why you liberal Democrat's are know as low information voters.
You can bet that the terrorist group "Black Lives Matter" will show up at the Convention in Cleveland Ohio this week and cause a blood bath of rioting.
They are BOTH low information voters AND uneducated Left Wing trash that support Crooked Hillary.
Your way hasn't worked in the last eight years Lyzko as things have only got worse with your "hope & change" crap.
Let's try MY and Trumps way for the next eight years to make America Great Again !
Three more policemen got shot today in America. Good job Obama for promoting such terror.
And you want a continuation of this by electing Crooked Hillary !
Come on Lyzko, let me do just a one hour lecture to your class to show them the truth.

jon357
18 Jul 2016  #2134

Her campaign'll pull a rabbit out of their hat in the form of some deus ex machina just before the eleventh hour, trust me:-)

Let's hope so. For all her faults, she's one of the good guys.

johnny reb
18 Jul 2016  #2135

she's one of the good guys

You said the same thing about Roman Polanski. LOL

jon357
18 Jul 2016  #2136

Roman Polanski.

Roman Polanski?

Certainly a good film director and for all his sins he has at least contributed something to culture. Trump hasn't.

johnny reb
18 Jul 2016  #2137

Trump hasn't.

Trump contributed several World Class golf courses and contributed millions to charities without raping a child. lol
But in your Liberal Progressive ilk laced mind is the same reason that you want to justify Crooked Hillary's crimes and call her one of the good guys when in reality she should be in prison along with her husband, daughter and Polanski.

jon357
18 Jul 2016  #2138

golf courses

And casinos.

The world needs more golf courses and casinos like America needs more lawyers...

johnny reb
18 Jul 2016  #2139

The world certainly Doesn't need more children rapist like Polanski or more Criminals like Hillary though.

The Republican National Convention starts tonight in Cleveland Ohio.
The Trump supporters have already showed up sporting their guns on their belts legally with the open carry law that Ohio has.
I bet the terrorist group Black Lives Matter may think twice about shooting police officers and assaulting people who are supporting Trump.
If law enforcement can't control those thugs then what other recourse is their but to protect yourself.
Having a Huckleberry strapped to your belt trumps their gang intimidation.
And those are the open carry ones not to mention the concealed and carry ones.
Sad to see this happening in my country but Obama has encouraged it to this point with divide and conquer.
The low information voters who support Hillary are asking for another term or two of this nonsense.
How is it that when the Liberal Democrats hold a rally that the Conservative Republican's don't show up to cause trouble by shooting police officers, burning cars and attacking people just because they support Crooked Hillary or Obama ?????
I hate to say it but you may be seeing the start of a Civil War tonight on the streets of Cleveland with people getting shot.
This is EXACTLY what the Obama/Clinton Liberals want so they can declare Martial Law and confiscate all the guns in this country.
Stay tuned as the elections are just starting to heat up because Crooked Hillary is getting desperate.

TheOther
18 Jul 2016  #2140

Sad to see this happening in my country but Obama has encouraged it to this point with divide and conquer.

You forgot to mention the NRA, the Tea Party, the ultra right wing GOP members, Rupert Murdoch and the deluded evangelicals in the South who did all they can to divide the country for the past 8 years.

confiscate all the guns in this country.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Okay, let's prohibit people who cannot live without their guns then... :)

johnny reb
18 Jul 2016  #2141

All the organizations that you mentioned have been around way before eight years ago son.
Your boy has had eight years to straighten things out and has only messed it up ten fold.
Your "Hope" & "Change" thing has been a miserable failure.
Blacks and Whites were getting along pretty good before Obama came into office with his Saul Alinski's teachings.
Trump is are only hope to make America great again.

Lyzko
18 Jul 2016  #2142

Trump is the embodiment of the summer camp bully, empowered by titanic familial connections, ultimately brazen, brash and hence seemingly indifferent to opposition aka "Whatcha gonna do about it?!" The good news of course is that history and everyday life show that even the mega-bully can be brought down with the same strength of will which hoisted him up by his own petard, namely, the weakness in his character after which former Madam Secretary turned presidential hopeful must go after with the vengeance of a piranha after blood.....until Trump hemmorages.

TheOther
18 Jul 2016  #2143

All the organizations that you mentioned have been around way before eight years ago

Yes, and you didn't hear a word from them while GWB was in office. Only when Obama moved into the WH, they started their nonstop whinging, whining and obstructing. I for one believe that it's not so much about politics; it's the president's skin color they have a problem with.

Lyzko
18 Jul 2016  #2144

Amen, but we've known that since '08, TheOther!
:-)

johnny reb
18 Jul 2016  #2145

Only when Obama moved into the WH, they started their nonstop whinging

That was eight years ago and since then there have been 3,500 mostly Black murders in Chicago alone.
Have you seen Obama try to do anything about it. Hell no !
Obama has repeatedly jumped the conclusions on Police officers shooting Black criminals only to blame it on the cops before the facts have even been presented. (He loves to pour gas on the fire to conquer and divide)
Now he is saying that the police are bringing it on themselves. The Fck !
If you call that whining then you bet idiot.
Obama has put more people on Food Stamps then ever and we are tired of paying for it. Call that whining ?
More people are out of work since Obama moved into the White House and tack on a 19 trillion dollar debt and people shouldn't whine ?
Pull your head out and smell the coffee to the rhetoric you call whining.
The last eight years has been a complete failure with the Dems at the helm.
You Liberals can't deal with the truth can you. lol

Lyzko
18 Jul 2016  #2146

Perhaps certain liberals can't, but can the Republicans "deal" any better?? 'Course not! If you call the Bushes, Papa & Sonny, Scott Walker, Ted Cruz etc. "dealing with the truth", you got more than a few screws loose, buddy!

johnny reb
18 Jul 2016  #2147

You avoid ever fact that I post here Lyzko because liberals such as yourself can't argue the truth.

Lyzko
18 Jul 2016  #2148

The point is, Johnny, what you've posted isn't the truth!

johnny reb
18 Jul 2016  #2149

Of course it is, that is why you avoid it.
Not true that there have been 3,500 shooting deaths in Chicago since Obama came into office ?
That there are more people out of work since Obama came into office ?
That the national debt is now 19 trillion since Obama came into office ?
That there is more division between race then before Obama came into office.
That the economy is worse off then before Obama came into office ?
That Obama Care has been a failure ?
what you've posted isn't the truth!

LOL, and your sorry ass is teaching our America's youth.
God save us.

Lyzko
18 Jul 2016  #2150

Truth doesn't always boil down to (falsified) stats there, buster:-) No wise man seeks enlightenment, read wisdom, through facts alone! Truth is far more difficult to grasp.

First of all, as you hopefully know, most "think tanks" in the States are Republican, there the "truth" has become so twisted and contorted, it's no longer identifiable as such any more!!

johnny reb
19 Jul 2016  #2151

I just gave you five well known truths that you say are falsified.
it's no longer identifiable as such any more!!

Obviously not by you low information voters but anyone with a brain knows those five stats I gave you are the truth.
That is why you won't debate them. lol
Like I stated in a previous post, "You want to get a liberal mad just tell him the truth.

Lyzko
19 Jul 2016  #2152

You want to get a Republican even madder, DISAGREE WITH HIM!!!
LOL

TheOther
19 Jul 2016  #2153

That was eight years ago and since then there have been 3,500 mostly Black murders in Chicago alone.

We were talking about the divide in the country, Johnny, and not about the murder rate in Chicago The Republicans and other conservative circles in the US are in large parts responsible for the current situation, and the Democrats are to blame as well. Both groups were unable or unwilling to cooperate, and we all have to pay the price now. Trump will only make matters worse, and so will Hillary. Which is the reason why I won't vote this time.

Your boy has had eight years to straighten things out

I'm neither a registered Democrat, nor a Republican, so Mr. Obama is certainly not my "boy" (which is a poor choice of word anyway when referring to a black president, I might add).

Lyzko
19 Jul 2016  #2154

Exactly, TheOther! Johnny's not "arguing" cogently, he's listing a litany of admittedly awful events which have happened and blaming liberal democrats for the misdeeds of everyone other than the true culprit(s): an outmoded police hierarchy, NOT "bad blacks" a la Giuliani etc..

johnny reb
19 Jul 2016  #2155

No, it's you that is doing the blaming.
I am surprised you two still aren't blaming this all on Bush. lol
And what happened to your "New Deal" crutch.
Did you finally get that worked during the industrial revolution which is long gone never to return.
I should be getting paid for educating you Lyzko.
Trump will fix the two most important things that Obama and Hillary have ran methodically into the ground to destroy America for the last eight years ..........the economy and the military to make America Great Again.

Lyzko
19 Jul 2016  #2156

A truly strong economy will make the necessity for phony, trumped-up wars (no pun intended hereLOL), hence, a strong defense worldwide, less pressing!

While no nation can survive without a trained, standing army of some kind, turning America into some Rambo-like continent of automaton-like robots blindly doing their dictator's bidding will reap the eternal enmity of the very world which the US claims she's trying to help.

Everything you say has the earmarks of either a troll or an ignoramus,...or both:-)

johnny reb
19 Jul 2016  #2157

Gee Lyzko, you seem to be the expert, maybe you should run for President of the United States. LOL
You have no idea what you are even spewing.
A strong defense is less pressing !
Do you have a clue to what Obama has done to our military ! No
A truly strong economy will make the necessity for phony, trumped-up wars

OH, you mean like the New Deal did. lol
No, a strong economy is putting people back into the work force son.
This is why I call you a low information voter.
You would rather we have a weak economy, people living in a welfare State, people living in their parents basements, government with complete control over your life, no one being able o afford a house to buy, live in section 8 housing on Food Stamps like Obama has done to so many ?
Typical Liberal Lodgic.
I would rather have my independence, a good paying job, my pride, my freedom, no government over sight, with a booming economy.
I have pride, independence and like nice things......THAT I WORK FOR !
It's called the American Dream that Obama has made impossible to obtain anymore.
Trump will put God back into our schools, teach our kids morals and that participation trophies suck.
Trump knows how to run a business and get the economy going again and put some profession brains back into our military that Obama fired.
Now get with it son and help make America Great Again by supporting President Trump.

johnny reb
19 Jul 2016  #2158

and blaming liberal democrats for the misdeeds of everyone other than the true culprit(s): an outmoded police hierarchy, NOT "bad blacks"

O.k. loud mouth then debate these FACTS about "bad blacks" because of liberal's "misdeeds".
Chicago is a perfect example of Obama and Crooked Hillary ignoring the real problem.
Fifty years of welfare programs and treating black people like victims has created a dysfunctional system leading to hopelessness, crime, and generations of poverty.
It is young black men murdering other black men.​
White people are not part of the problem.
It's a black problem sensationalized as a gun problem by Obama and his lying pet lackey's.
Their lawless culture, requiring no personal responsibility by those who father children, creates the dysfunction and crime.

The urban ghetto kill zones all have the same thing in common, they are run by liberal Democrats for decades with poverty created by their welfare policies, dreadful public schools, and a black population who don't work and take no personal responsibility for their lives or their children.
​Why don't you hear Obama and Hillary giving speeches about black communities policing themselves and taking responsibility for the crime, drugs and murder in their neighborhoods ?
They have no problem with proclamations about white people clinging to their guns in middle America where there are virtually no murders.
The entire gun narrative peddled by liberals is false.
Why has this become a war on whites when it is solely a black problem?
It's almost as if the government is treating working class whites with guns as the enemy.

Knowing your history when I present something for you to debate that is the truth you most likely will ignore the facts above and go off on some other tangent because you liberals can't argue facts.
You become lost. lol

jon357
19 Jul 2016  #2159

A very interesting quote here from Donald Trump:


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johnny reb
19 Jul 2016  #2160

That is back twenty years ago when Trump was a Democrat but since has seen the light and switched parties to Republican jon.
(You do know that twenty years ago President Trump was a Democrat don't you ?) lol
Innit great to be an American where we have freedom of choice.


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