What are the prospects of liberating Crimea from the Muscovite yoke?

Ukraine is still occasionally mentioned in the world news but people seem to have passively accepted Putin's illegal Anscluß of Crimea. Do you believe there are any long-range prosepcts for its return to Ukraine? Doesn't Russia have enough land mass without annexing other countries territory? They pulled a similar stunt with Georgia by setting up two Russian-contolled puppet states, and some fishy business in Transdniestria may be next.

Very hard, Po, unfortunately. Without a devastating war or an unforeseen catastrophy. Basically as long as Russia have the resources they will stay put there.

They had their greedy eyes on Odessa too, however that was beyond their short-term capabilities.

Why actually bother?

Ukraine as a nation is in state of formation of its national state. Ethic Ukrainians never had ethnic state. When Poles and Russians didn`t accept existence of Ukrainian nation, we Serbians did. Also, we Serbians promptly accepted existence of Ruthenian nation. Ruthenian nation also never had its own ethnic state.

So, if we want to be honest and realistic, that what is now Ukraine is territory in turmoil due to fact that ethnic Ukrainians wants to have ethnic state for the first time. At the same time, ethnic Russians there are natives and have history of their statehood there. As natives and people with statehood they want to decide for themselves. Ruthenian question is on the way, too.

So, what Muscovite yoke? i suggest to you Polonius3, not to blame others for your frustrations. It is NATO and EU who destroyed hopes of Poland to re-gain Lwow and other areas that have Polish historical statehood. How NATO and EU? By insisting on nonsense that is modern day Ukraine, state as any other state, when it is clear, as i explained, that it is not but, that we here talk about unstable territory in turmoil (what official Russia said loudly). Now, same way as Russia was able to support ethnic Russians in area of turmoil, Poland was able to support ethnic Poles. But, Poland, being part of NATO and EU refrained itself from it, all in accordance with general NATO and EU politics that focus only on Anglo-Germanic interests. And no, i don`t suggest partition of Ukraine. Its not about it. Its about fact that ethnic Ukrainians first time in history forming their ethnic Ukrainian state, on what they have every right but, they simple don`t have right to take with them what don`t belong to Ukrainian nation. Theoretically, even Serbians could ask to have their own state on that territory (ethnic Serbs had two historical provinces in what is now Ukraine).

They have the problem there that it's not connected to Russia by anything other than by air, but it seems to suit both Moldova and Russia to have the country as some sort of mafia parastate.


Not really. I think the world accepted that Crimea was historically Russian, and even Ukraine seems somewhat relieved to get it off their back. I wouldn't be hugely shocked if Ukraine accepted the loss of Donetsk too, as they would then have a Ukrainian-dominated country and could impose the use of Ukrainian only.

Crimea from the Muscovite yoke?
polonius,you do realize that vast majority of crimeans are Russians?and,actually they were under Ukrainian yoke for decades.
how do you think "freeing" Crimea should look like?slaughtering russians with axes and replacing them with "proper" citizens?

Basically a lawless state unhindered by democratic and judicial control. And as long as it's unrecognised diplomatically (which suits Russia down to the ground) it's a haven for their crime.

Another reason that the prospects of liberating Crimea from the Muscovite yoke is tiny.