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Let's discuss muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians


johnny reb
12 Apr 2016  #1

Communism ?
What happened to the Topic of "let's dicuss muslim, jews and christian" or to the similar in the Off-Topic.
Adrian9 had jon's ears pinned to the wall in the debate and suddenly the whole damn thread disappears.
Can you tell us WHY you did this as there was nothing in it that was inappropriate besides jon losing the debate rather badly.

For the record I did not start this thread. The mods did.
If it was going to be removed from the main page to Off - Topic, why weren't the post that went along with it added also ?

Why start new ?
Thank you and we will see how long before it gets CLOSED.
Let's start where it left off then.

AdrianK9

polishforums.com/off-topic/random-chat-74400/19/#msg1543590

A spectacularly lost argument!

This is a debate, not an argument jon.
jon357
12 Apr 2016  #2

Nope. It was a discussion in another (now deleted) thread that an outspoken anti-Semite and holocaust denier tried to turn into an argument, which he lost spectacularly when his capital letter ranting about gas chambers was exposed to the cold light of truth.

And than for some unfathomable reason, probably to do with either mischief or alcohol, you reposted someone else's post from random chat!
johnny reb
12 Apr 2016  #3

jon, jon.
You still refuse to answer Adrains9 two questions to you.
How could he have lost the debate "spectacularly" when you refuse to answer his questions ?

probably to do with either mischief or alcohol, you reposted someone else's post from random chat!

Neither of those two jon and it did not come from random chat.
Carry on though as this is a very enlightening thread to be debated.
What university did you attend jon ?
Didn't you say it was a very highly ranked one ?
And above all, I do respect your views as well as Adrains.
You know that I like to keep an open mind in debates.
jon357
12 Apr 2016  #4

it did not come from random chat.

Actually

What university did you attend jon ?

A far better one than yourself, that's for sure

Adrains

Well, certainly adrain on common sense, however your starting threads for things about holocaust denial from random chat, Johhny Reb is not a bait that I choose to take

How could he have lost the debate "spectacularly" when you refuse to answer his questions ?

If you'd bothered to pay attention, you'd have noticed that those questions were long ago answered and his responses refuted.

Now back to your hobby - there are probably some bottles chilling under your trailer.
johnny reb
12 Apr 2016  #5

Actually

Actually not, Adrian can verify that if you insist.

A far better one than yourself, that's for sure

Why the belittlement jon ? If you are ashamed to tell us we understand.

is not a bait that I choose to take

You debate ever post anyone makes jon, why is this one different ?

you'd have noticed that those questions were long ago answered and his responses refuted.

I beg to differ but I am sure when Adrian awakes that he will be happy to debate that with you.

Now back to your hobby - there are probably some bottles chilling under your trailer.

Please just stay on thread here and keep your belittlements to yourself as you are a very rude person when you get stymied.
jon357
12 Apr 2016  #6

belittlement jon

You invite it by your trolling.

You must be very bored indeed in real life. You should take up an interest like Republicanism, guns, pickup trucks and incest in the outhouse.
johnny reb
13 Apr 2016  #7

Republicanism, guns, pickup trucks and incest in the outhouse

I am a Republican, I have a fabulous gun collect, I have a new 4x4 pick-up truck and I do have a second cousin that is a hottie but I am way to old for her.

You invite it by your trolling.

I think it is just YOUR demeanor as it is typical of Zionist acting superior and demanding to lord over and when others refuse to walk on egg shells around you, you start with the belittlements and insults.

A definite pattern that is easy to see in you.
landofthunder
14 Apr 2016  #8

OY! VEY! Stop your kvetching, you yiddisher kopf gefilt fish!

On - woolisblog.blogspot.co

= The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show

@ the workings of the jews in Goylands; insightful, knowledgeable.
[Forget the religious stuff if not Brit. Identity. But, the info about jewish psychopathy is expansive.]
Also search: Gilad Atzmon
& smoloko.com/
Levi
5 May 2016  #9

The Jew is Goldsmith. Boris is not a candidate.

In Fact London is very open minded to elect a Muslim.
Almost as much as Brussels, where recently they were so open minded that their brains fell out at the airport.

Or Paris, where at a Bataclan a lot of people became very open minded after be shot in the head by Islamists.

Europe... so modern.
InPolska
5 May 2016  #10

Yes, Rozu, I know but he's of "Jewish" origin like like my husband was and like I am of "Catholic" origin. Anyway, for me, NO problem but I'm laughing at fascists
AdrianK9
7 May 2016  #11

[moved from]

I did not grow up middle class - I grew up dirt poor. My parents and I only became wealthy recently through hard work. You're making assumptions which are totally false. I lived in a ghetto apartment with a black and white TV and cat **** stains on the carpet - far from middle class.

Actually, thousands of Jews are leaving France each year because of their fear of Muslims. Granted yes, much of this is due to the Israeli government stoking fears and offering generous relocation packages, but nonetheless many Jews cite that safety is their prime motivation for leaving France. Last year, I believe the figure was around 8000 Jews leaving France and 30,000 new immigrants arriving in Israel - a record number. Documentary from Vice on this:

youtube.com/watch?v=iM7QEG9v2GQ

No, not everyone in Europe is killing each other. However, there is a lot of violence, a lot of animosity, a lot of hatred, and a lot of tension in Western Europe now. Millions of white Europeans are not happy about the waves of migrants coming along.

PPS: sorry if W. Europe does not fit you, but stop telling BS about it because enough is enough!

So women being fondled and raped in Cologne, the Swedish police downplaying migrant crime statistics, Pakistanis who abused hundreds of girls over a 10 year period in London, and terrorist attacks in Belgium, France, England, Denmark and all the crap happening in Germany - that's all B.S. and not true right? ... It certainly isn't all hunky dory in Europe and the majority of the problems with crime, terrorism, fundamentalism, rape, theft, and billions of dollars being needlessly spent are because of the migrants. These problems didn't exist before they started coming here and the billions spent on them should've been spent on the taxpayers - not people who haven't contributed a dime in income taxes to the country yet are demand free food, housing, and money.

No, W. Europe doesn't fit me because of what it has become. Western Europe was a way different place in the 90's and even 2000's. It's totally declined in the past 5 years and I just pray to God that Poland, Czech Republic (which is actually my favorite country to visit), Serbia, Hungary, Slovakia and other countries do not become what Western Europe has. Thankfully, the welfare system is far worse in these countries than in Germany and Sweden so the migrants don't really want to come here because they won't be able to freeload and will actually have to work to survive.
delphiandomine
7 May 2016  #12

you mean a civil war and terror are not out of question in Poland - who do you think would start that?

I have no idea who might fire the first shot, only that we have a situation in which society is dangerously divided. Either way, should someone fire first, the opposite side will fire back. At which point, we might as well all move to the UK.
InPolska
7 May 2016  #13

@Adrian: do you really believe that in w. Europe, you have these events all the time??? I lived in the US, which is the most violent country in the world but I have NOT seen much violence. Why do you refuse to believe that in w. Europe these are exceptional and that every day's life is quite normal? If w. Europe was so bad, why would tens of millions Poles (and others) live there? No, western Europe is not like what you claim. Of course, media report misdeeds because 1. western Europe is democratic and media are free and 2. media by definition only report the sensational.

How many Poles in w. Europe and how many w. Europeans in Poland??? ;)

PS: don't you have more reliable source than ... YouTube??? I don't have tme now (tomorrow am I work) but more than 50% of the French Jews leaving for Israel return to France within 2 years because problems of security in Israel and they cannot find work. And if they meant to leave, it is NOT because of Muslims (beware that a lot ot them do not practice their religiion) but because of Front National. I happen to know France better than you do, don't I????
gumishu
7 May 2016  #14

I lived in the US, which is the most violent country in the world but I have NOT seen much violence.

you have old data - there are now much more violent countries in the world - think South Africa, Honduras, San Salvador
InPolska
7 May 2016  #15

whatever, the US are still far more violent than Europe is ;)
AdrianK9
7 May 2016  #16

Why do you refuse to believe that in w. Europe these are exceptional and that every day's life is quite normal?

I never once said that everyday life isn't normal... I said nothing of the sorts. I stated that W Europe has gotten more dangerous and that there are far more terrorist attacks in Europe than there is in the US - which is true.

Violent, perhaps - although this is mainly limited to bad neighborhoods with majority black and hispanic population. The people in the suburbs are far removed from this.

Still though, the US has far less terrorist attacks than Europe. Europe, especially Belgium, has become the new capital of jihad in the West.

PS: don't you have more reliable source than ... YouTube???

It is a VICE Documentary - youtube isn't a source, it's a video hosting platform... that's like saying 'google' is a source..

If you opened the link you would see that this is an excellent source as the reporter goes to various government groups and proves the statistics and facts.
InPolska
7 May 2016  #17

@Adrian: have you lived in Belgium? Do you know people who do? I went hundreds of times to Belgium, I know a lot of Poles who go there at least 1 time per month every month and ... nothing ;). I know you have seen something on YouTube (do you know what YouTube is? I doubt so let me tell you how it works: ANYBODY (including me) can record anything and put it online) so do you really beleive it's serious???). You arre very poor if you believe that in Europe, everybody shoots at every body, that we risk our lives 24X7. I'm going to Paris very soon and guess what, I'll do shopping, visit around and??? Yes, poor Adrian! ;)

As to Jews: 1. why don't you get figures that say that at least more than 50% return to France within 2 years because they cannot make it there and also it is much more danerous and 2. their problem is front national. How many French Jews do you personally know? None so don't talk on their behalf all the more as they hate fascists so respect them!
gumishu
7 May 2016  #18

I'm going to Paris very soon and guess what,

don't use public transport some crazy muzzy can blow him/herself up right in front of you
InPolska
7 May 2016  #19

poor idiot! I know people, including Poles, doing it several times per day every day....
gumishu
7 May 2016  #20

is that what you say to those who lost their limbs in London metro bombings or the families of the victims?
AdrianK9
7 May 2016  #21

have you lived in Belgium?

No, because I prefer to live with people of my own kind. I like my people like I like my laundry - whites sorted from the colors.

You arre very poor if you believe that in Europe, everybody shoots at every body, that we risk our lives 24X7.

I don't know where you have this fetish that I somehow believe people shoot at everybody all the time. I never said that - not once. I stated that there are far more terrorist attacks than in the US and that Europe has become a dangerous place due to the migrant hordes - as shown by the fact that even the police are scared to into the Muslim ghettos in Belgium, France, etc. Many respected news outlets claim that the government has lost control of these areas and they function essentially as semi autonomous zones. The fact is, poverty, drugs, crime, unemployment, terrorism, and extremism are rampant in those areas - that is fact - no, you probably won't get shot if you walk in - but those areas are nonetheless dangerous and they are the direct result of Europeans allowing Muslim hordes to settle in while providing them with food, money, and housing courtesy of the taxpayer while all these people do is breed, pray, and complain that 'society isn't fair.'

I know you have seen something on YouTube

Here is the same exact video but from the actual source...
news.vice.com/video/europes-jewish-exodus-full-length
it's the exact same video as the youtube platform... Just because an ABC, CNN, etc. documentary was posted on youtube does not make it invalid or not serious... by your argument, all the videos showing happy peaceful Europeans then on youtube are invalid and not serious.

How many French Jews do you personally know?

One - and I bang her every weekend...

She grew up in an orthodox household so she's as anti-Isreal and anti-Zionist as me.

None so don't talk on their behalf all the more as they hate fascists so respect them!

Two false assumptions in a row - first, you assumed I didn't know any French Jews which actually I do (I even said before this post that I date a French/Russian Jewish girl), second, I am not talking on their behalf - if you bothered to watch the documentary, again a documentary by a respected (very liberal actually as well) news outlet - not some idiot filming themself - you would see that i paraphrased what Jews said themselves and the statistics. The Jews were interviewed in this documentary and stated that fears of safety are their primary reason for leaving.

Russia is another example where family values and morality haven't yet been corrupted by the 1% that argues their deviant behavior is normal.

Western society's morality has gone down the drain. All you can do if you live in the West is resist and educate your children.

It's such hipocrisy that these gay groups argue for acceptance yet they have no regard for people who have opposing views because of their conservative or religious beliefs. They don't even care if there's children around - they will continue with their simulated sex acts and dress in a totally provocative, often nearly nude manner.

The freak, the outcast is no longer someone who dresses as the other sex or is a homosexual or even demands to use whatever bathroom that person 'identifies' with. Now the freak, the outcast is the Christian conservative speaking out against such things and fighting for traditional family values and morals. My how society had changed.
nothanks
7 May 2016  #22

Sad but true. I am counting down the days for when I return to the East. Being surrounded by self-defeating degenerates has gotten to me
InPolska
7 May 2016  #23

your "Christian conservative values"????? Like paedophilia in your churches and the hatred and murders (including génocides) of others???? You may keep them to yourselves!
gumishu
7 May 2016  #24

hatred and murders (including génocides) of others????

which genocides - care to elaborate?
Polonius3
7 May 2016  #25

murders (including génocides)

On average some 100,000 people in the world are killed each year for one reason: because they are Christians. Most of the killers are Muslims although there are also some Hindus.

Language point: In English we do not spell mass killings génocide. The acute accent (aigu) in English is limited to a handful of naturalised French terms such as café, coup d'état, passé, etc.
InPolska
7 May 2016  #26

No time to develop but basically genocides of natives in places like North America, Australia., slavery, mass brainwashing natives thru missionaries.... And as to catholics, I could mention the Saint-Barthelemy night against protestants.... The list is very long....

As to French signs, I do know but since I have confogurated my

...... I get accents and other signs automatically so I need to correct said words and sometimes I forget so reason why "é, è, ê itd;)" Since you are educated and speak languages, not hard for you to figure out!

But never mind too many nuts use their."God" to act like barbarians and this concerns ALL religions
Polonius3
7 May 2016  #27

not hard for you to figure out!

I reckon one tends to judge others and their equipment by one's own. I use a Polish 214 keyboard and have to type the acute accent first and then the letter "e" to get ę or the cedilla and then the c to get ć.
Chemikiem
7 May 2016  #28

On average some 100,000 people in the world are killed each year for one reason: because they are Christians. Most of the killers are Muslims although there are also some Hindus.

Perhaps you might like to read how that 100,000 figure was arrived at. I'd like to say I'm surprised that you didn't actually bother to research it properly, but given that you like to repeat any old rubbish without checking facts, I'm not.

That 100, 000 figure includes the 90,000 Christians killed in the civil war in the DR Congo by other Christians, but obviously that doesn't suit your agenda of blaming the Muslims now does it?

bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24864587
Polonius3
7 May 2016  #29

100,000 figure

That figure was provided by the Vatican itself!

Close to 100,000 Christians are being killed every year because of their faith, according to statistics from a Pew Research Survey and the International Society for Human Rights, a non-religious organization.

These figures, which represent an "unprecedented," number of death per year amount to 273 Christian killed daily, or 11 every hour, said Bishop John McAreavey, chairman of the Council for Justice and Peace.

McAreavey, speaking to the Irish parliament on behalf of the Irish Catholic Bishop's Conference, said, "Eighty percent of all acts of religious discrimination in the world today are directed against Christians."
Chemikiem
8 May 2016  #30

That figure was provided by the Vatican itself!

Pew Research Survey and the International Society for Human Rights

If you had bothered to read the link I supplied ( or maybe you did but didn't like what it said ), you will have read that the figure all the above organisations are quoting comes originally from The Centre for the Study of Global Christianity ( CSGC ) who publish a yearly figure in their Status of Global Mission. Their researchers obtained that figure by estimating the number of Christians who died as martyrs between 2000 and 2010. They reckoned that was about 1,000,000, and divided it by 10 to get an annual figure of 100,000.

Between 2000 and 2010, there was a civil war going on in DR Congo. Over 4 million people died and the CSGC counted 900,000 ( 20% ) of them as martyrs. Divide that figure by 10 and you have 90,000 a year.

I am not saying that you are wrong in that people are being killed for their faith, and of course this is terrible, but that 100,000 figure includes those victims who died in a civil war. So if you deduct the 90,000 from the 100,000 figure, you are left with about 10,000 Christian martyrs per year, which Professor Thomas Shirrmacher from the International Society for Human Rights says is more likely to be the order of magnitude.

In his words " One has to see that there is no scientific number at the moment. It has not been researched and all experts in this area are very hesitant to give a figure," he says.

"We are starting a research project with several universities worldwide on this topic and there we start with a guess of 7-8,000 Christians killed as martyrs each year."

Perhaps you should take the time to read the article.

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