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Let's discuss muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians


Polonius3
8 May 2016  #31

no scientific number

Thta applies to any war or atrocity. Since victims go missing, get buried in unmarked graves or get incinerated or blown up, we don't really know how many died int he Holocaust, WW2 or other conflagrations. But even if the 7-8 thousand annual estimate is plausible, that is still more than other people killed for their religion. The problem is that the Christophobic, neo-Marxist EU and liberal-leftstream media tend to ignore any Christian misfortunes and suffering and prefer to focus on PC pet groups such as Muslim refugees, the homo fringe group, trannies, 3rd-worlders in Europe, Negroes in America, etc. That in itself is a cockeyed distortion.
Chemikiem
8 May 2016  #32

Thta applies to any war or atrocity.

Yes of course, it is very difficult to get exact numbers under those type of circumstances. The CSGC figure of 1,000,000 over a 10 year period and therefore 100,000 per year was only an estimate. I was only trying to point out to you how and where those figures came from that the Vatican and other groups used. There are plenty of sites on the internet where that 100, 000 figure is bandied about without explanation, therefore giving the wrong impression.
AdrianK9
9 May 2016  #33

There a ton of discrimination and persecution on Christians from many fronts. Christianity is incompatible with the pro-homo, pro-tranny, deviant liberalism we see in the West. There's tons of attacks on Christians yet they rarely get reported. Whenever a leader of a traditionally Christian country like Poland makes a disparaging remark about Muslims and the parasites they carry, or about Jews, or gays, whatever they're in the headlines for a week. Yet, when Michael Ben-Ari, a member of the Knesset, videotapes himself ripping up the New Testament, throws it in the garbage and says it belongs in the trash of history not one major media outlet reports on it.

Christianity will continue to be assaulted by every group - Muslims, gays, trannies, Jews, politicians, atheists, leftists and liberals - it's the last resistance and that's why there is such a war against it.
delphiandomine
9 May 2016  #34

Christianity is incompatible with the pro-homo, pro-tranny, deviant liberalism we see in the West.

No, it isn't. Probably one of the most famous (and popular) pastors in America, Joel Osteen has made it pretty clear on numerous occasions that he sees nothing wrong with homosexuals and that they'll be going to heaven regardless. Likewise in Poland, there's an offshoot of the Catholic Church that openly accepts everyone regardless of sexual orientation, and many other Christian denominations have no problems with accepting LGBT members.

Don't forget the words of Pope Francis...

I said this: If a person is gay and seeks out the Lord and is willing, who am I to judge that person?" the pope says.I was paraphrasing the Catechism of the Catholic Church where it says that these people should be treated with delicacy and not be marginalized."

AdrianK9
9 May 2016  #35

, Joel Osteen has made it pretty clear on numerous occasions that he sees nothing wrong with homosexuals and that they'll be going to heaven regardless.

The televangelist 'priest' who has 3 elevators in his house? He'll say whatever to get the donations flowing and stacking his millions... He walks a very fine line between being inclusive while not deviating too far from the script to avoid losing his conservative congregation. I've seen him a few times on TV but I don't follow him as I am Roman Catholic. He's basically turned the Bible into an 'everything's nice - everything is wonderful God is fine, you're all going to heaven - it's okay let's all hug...'

Also, he said being a homo is a sin - huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/joel-osteen-being-gay-is-a-sin-fox-news_n_1471247.html

"Marriage is between a male and a female"

thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/29/televangelist-joel-osteen-on-the-power-of-twitter-and-same-sex-marriage

So yes maybe he doesn't dislike gay people, but it doesn't change that as a Christian Pastor he believes marriage is between man and woman.

Yes, even Roman Catholics will accept gays into their congregations - however that does not mean that they don't view their actions as sinful and it doesn't change their beliefs that marriage is between a man and woman only.
InPolska
10 May 2016  #36

Merged: (real) number of Muslims in France (completely different from what "we" read in PF ;)

viedemusulmane.fr/blog/2015/01/nombre-reel-musulmans-france-2015/

They start saying that 1. official statisics based upon religion, origin are forbidden and 2. only polls are allowed.

Hence, in 2010 they were some 4 million of Muslims in France and in 2030 some 6 million are expected. These are MUSLIMS, i.e. those who practice their religion.

I remind you that France has a population of over 66 millions, so how the hell can you have Muslims all over the place???? No need to be a genius at maths to realize that they are no majority.

I am well aware that especially these days, media talk alot about them but it does not mean that they are only a small minority ..

Since some of you are so facinated by France, at least get facts right! ;)

I know that this has nothing to do with Poland but it seems that PF love messages about muslims ;)
nothanks
10 May 2016  #37

official statisics based upon religion, origin are forbidden

Ya, whose master plan was that and why? I'll give you a hint: the same people that are preaching "There is no such thing as a Native-Frenchman".

Anyway, you are making the mistake of assuming these ethnics on the street are even legal. They squat, they beg, they steal. They remain. Some even admit to beheadings overseas and remain [Belgium news yesterday]
InPolska
10 May 2016  #38

Obviously you don't understand! ;). These are numbers about real muslims (= practicing religion). If not practicing and/or being atheists, they are not muslims ;). Muslim is a religion and nothing else and among them they are also some converted Europans (like some Poles are converted ttoo).

So basically it's not even 8% of the total French population so it means that ... 92% of the French are NOT muslim ;). I know that muslims furnish 99.99% of your conversations but

PS: do you know that the no.1 "foreign community" in France is .... the Portuguese ;). I suppose that you don't ;)

PPS; as to Arabs they are not all muslim. Some are Jewish, some are Christian, and some are even atheits. I suppose it is too difficult for you to understand ;)
nothanks
10 May 2016  #39

#1 foreign community is Portuguese. Where are their ghettos? Where are their No-Go zones? Where are their terrorist attacks? Where are their outcry over banning this and playing noise over loud speakers 5 times a day

That is the point. Muslims are so loud and noticeable, wearing their large black shower curtains. The current problem is not the radicals. The problem is the moderates that do not speak out against the radicals. After each terrorist attack recently I witnessed the same exact reaction from my Muslim friends

1) Not denouncing the actions
2) Instantly going on the offensive "Why aren't attacks in the Middle East reported?"
3) Continuing the offensive "There are X number of Muslims in the World and these radicals don't represent us"

It's always about them. ALWAYS. They physically threaten people from speaking out or even leaving the religion so in classic mob gang behavior the religion continues to spread. It's a virus. Plain and simple.

Sideniote: What sort of individual has time to pray 5 times a day? How do you hold a job in Western Civilization and do this.
InPolska
10 May 2016  #40

My goodness! Where do you come from? Don't you have foreign communities where you are or maybe you come from N.Korea?

Yes, the Portuguese is the no. 1 foreign community in France, even if you don't know about it ;). No, the Portuguese are not terrorists just the same as 99% of the muslims are not terrorists. Do you know that almost all janitors in Paris are from Porto (in Portugal);). Well, there are a lot of things you don't know ;)

I have lived close to 40 years in France while interacting daily with muslims/Arabs and what have you so I suppose I know better than you whose "'knowledge" is the bs you find in your fascist sites ;). What is your experience? ZILCH!

also includes several countries in W. Europe and Russia....
nothanks
10 May 2016  #41

"99% of the muslims are not terrorists"

Indeed but 90% of Muslims are terrorist sympathizers. Radicals are able to create a Us vs Them atmosphere because the moderate Muslims do not denounce their actions. Like I posted, they instantly go on the offensive or even defend "It's because of Western warmongering!"

Data illustrates the percentage of Muslims will only continue to increase. But overwhelming number of moderates have failed to hold the radical and hardcore small minority accountable.
InPolska
10 May 2016  #42

What's your personal experience ? None! I suppose you live in llinois and have never been abroad (like most fat as.. Rednecks). How many muslims killed or wounded for instance in Brussels, Paris attacks for instances? A lot but of course you don't know
johnny reb
10 May 2016  #43

[moved from]

I've just posted the REAL number of muslims in France

Marseille, France's second largest city ! Non , c'est devenu la 1ère...
And do you know what is the second language spoken in Marseille ?
It's French. The first is Arabic.

frontpagemag.com/point/214086/french-city-40-muslim-population-most-dangerous-daniel-greenfield

French City with 40% Muslim Population is the Most Dangerous City in Europe
Muslims have now set up unofficial checkpoints in various parts of Marseille.
And that was two years ago before the Muslim invasion.
No comment I see.

like most fat as.. Rednecks

Careful there big girl.
InPolska
10 May 2016  #44

@Johnny: You have NO PERSONAL experience and only base your hatred upon fascist sites completely disconnected from reality. I happen to know Marseille (even if it is dangerous, it is a very calm village compared to ANY US city ;)) and my niece happens to study there ;).

Your hatred for a whole nation of some 66 millions people is pathology! You may keep copying and pasting from fascist sites, it won't change reality.

You know, no bog deal to copy-paste sh]] re America! But I won't because what's the purpose and besides off topic.

Sale nazi!

Your site is fascist propaganda and completely disconnected from reality. A proof it is BS they are unable to give exact locations of the imaginary "checkpoints" . Thank you to let me know so I'll inform City of Marseille.
Wulkan
10 May 2016  #45

in France and in 2030 some 6 million are expected

6 million muslims in France in 2030? LOL I think they expect another Hitler in Europe who this time will be killing paedophile worshipers instead of jews.
whocares
10 May 2016  #46

Trying to argue with social leftists is like smashing your head against the wall.

There are far more Muslims in Europe than some imaginery "neonazis and fascists" that certain people like to think.
Frenchies like "inpolska" just want to spread some Cultural Marxist propaganda. Anything to the right of center for them is Hitler this and Holocaust that.

If I was French (thankfully im not), I would deport every single Dindu, Middle Eastern, North African back to where they came from.
I dont care if theyve been there for 1 or 3 generations.

European civilization is at stake. Countries like Germany, France, Sweden, and UK are a threat to everyone because of these mass immigrants.
InPolska
10 May 2016  #47

@Johnny: 1. how the hell can you come up with numbers when statistics based upon race/religions are forbidden in France (law of 1978 re "Informatiques et Libert├ęs") 2. muslims is not a race. The only estimates available in France re religions are what different religions claim.

Not only, you are full of hatred and also as stupid as possible!
whocares
10 May 2016  #48

According to Pewresearch there were 4.7 million Muzzies in France in 2010.
The number is probably higher now.

Either way 1 million or 10 million its too much.
Muslims are not civilized, they rape to often, dont integrate, do terrorist attacks,
and many of them agree with radical Muslim views. There are even more immigrants from Africa. Many of them have sympathies to Islam.

Start deporting them. ASAP.
InPolska
10 May 2016  #49

Johnny and consorts: trust me that I'll be able to demolish your lies as I'm fed up of your UNrational hatred. Should I be as stupid as you are (my goodness!) I would copy-paste a lot of crap re the US, which is the n1. country responsible for all wars, and all the sh]]t going on in the world. Maybe instead of being so obsessed by France (where you have never been), maybe you should feel concerned about the US ;)

Bonne nuit, les fachiottes ! ;)

Le fascisme ne passera pas !
Szalawa
10 May 2016  #50

Anything to the right of center for them is Hitler this and Holocaust that.

True, and centrist are seen as right wings these days, like I was accused of being. What you see is a shift of ideologies favoring left wing politics while heavily discrediting right wing ones, this is usually done through manipulation of media. However to set things straight Nazi socialism was more of a centrist position, though heavily authoritarian, not a right wing or left wing ideology.

Having small quantities of refugees wont collapse Polish society, however the problem lies with the lefties, if you give them an inch they will take a mile, so the backlash is completely understandable. Of course any opposition is a brownshirt, neo nazi,racist, homophobe, islamophobe, fasicst.
InPolska
10 May 2016  #51

@Nothanks and Szalawa: I just prove that they rely on propaganda very easy to demolish and in johnny's tonight case, very easy to do it so since racial/ethnic statistics are not permitted in France (because illegal, "loi Informatique et Libert├ęs 1978).

When people are so ignorant about a subject, no big deal to prove that they don't know anything

What jerks! Unbelievale!

Le fascisme ne passera pas !

PS: don't tell me that their "Francophobia" is rational ;)
AdrianK9
10 May 2016  #52

Still way too many as far as I'm concerned. Well the French made their bed now they can sleep in it - rape, crime, poverty, terrorist attacks, and no go zones or since the libs claim these areas don't exist I'll specify it as 'areas with a majority Muslim population that have extremely high rates of crime, unemployment, terrorist sympathizers that even the police is scared to go into'
johnny reb
10 May 2016  #53

Because of internal dissension between the French Left and French Right, conflict retaliated to hesitancy.
French attempts for defense and peace ended in failure because of Hitler's great aggression.
Both military and mental weaknesses led to the ultimate failure of the French early in World War II.
The United States of America had to save their sorry butts and bail them out.
It is happening again as the French Left is causing internal dissension of hesitancy only this time no one will be able to bail their sorry asses out.

There will be no turning back and all of a sudden France's culture will be gone forever and be called Francistan.
This is what Poland DOES NOT WANT so go back to where you expats come from and quit wishing hell on Poland.
Why do you Lefties always cause a pain in ass for everyone else ?
It's like you are on a mission from hell.
AdrianK9
10 May 2016  #54

Fun Fact about the religion of peace -

A 2013 study by the Brookings Institute found that 77% of terror attack plots in the United States were motivated by Islam. A 2015 study found that 99.5% of all suicide attacks worldwide were also motivated by Islam.
Ktos
13 May 2016  #55

Merged: Polish people must boycot actions of rabbi Zev Friedman

Zev Friedman (racist rabbi), recently, dared to stage an anti-Polish protest in front of Polish Embassy in another God forsaken American city: New York - yes, only in USA. All Polish abroad and in Poland join action against this man, do it for our much loved country Poland. Once you are keen, contact me (here on PF or through email) and I will let you know what can be done. Zev Friedman accuses Poland of the usual things Jews accuse us of, in the process he twists history, acts like mentally disturbed person (not only my opinion) and shows zero gratitude to the dead Polish who neglected their own and their family lives to save Zev Friedman's fellow tribesmen. At the very least, we must defend ourselves, it is our duty as Polish people to stand united and strong on this issue.
johnny reb
17 May 2016  #56

I just prove that they rely on propaganda very easy to demolish and in johnny's tonight case

I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace" when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family "honor" or Muslims rioting over some slight offense or Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't "believers" or Muslims burning schools for girls or Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for "adultery" or Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls all in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Sharia law tells them to.

Propaganda you say.........get a clue.
Ironside
17 May 2016  #57

I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace"

Hey Islam is indeed a religion of peace. Like rest in peace.
porky pok
17 May 2016  #58

Iron you scare me are you watching too many ISIS videos?
OOPs! sorry didnt read it correctly...excuse me:(
Ironside
17 May 2016  #59

Iron you

Hey that is nothing,you should see me with a towel on my head.
porky pok
17 May 2016  #60

a joke! see me with my dot on ma forhead:D

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