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AdrianK9
17 May 2016  #61

Now Muslim students are offered student loans that conform to Sharia - basically, they won't have to pay any interest on student loans because that isn't halal...

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3593821/Sharia-students-loans-not-conflict-rules-Islam-offered-time-drive-Muslims-university.html

Hey Islam is indeed a religion of peace. Like rest in peace.

Here's a couple good websites about the religion in peace -

This one specifically documents Islamic attacks everyday - thereligionofpeace.com
On the side is a 'Jihad Report' which states how many attacks there were in the past 30 days - 1,421 killed according to today's numbers. You can go on the 'attacks' link to see the specific attack, location, death total, etc.

pamelageller.com - brave woman who stands up to Muslim extremists and Muslim immigrants - she held a 'Draw Muhammed' contest to exercise her right of free speech but of course crazy extremist muslims showed up with guns... I've never heard of any Catholics shooting people over offensive art depicting Jesus in Chocolate and calling it 'Sweet Jesus' or a crucifix placed in urine - offensive, yes... but we didn't kill anyone over it..

barenakedislam.com - recent news site with various postings related to Islam and its effect around the world.
delphiandomine
17 May 2016  #62

Now Muslim students are offered student loans that conform to Sharia - basically, they won't have to pay any interest on student loans because that isn't halal...

You do realise they pay interest, just in a different way?

In the UK example that was proposed, the intention was that the students would agree to pay a "donation" which would be put into a pool to help pay for future Islamic-friendly student loans. The end result is exactly the same - the donation would be pegged at the level of interest paid in a normal loan.

There's quite a few different ways that it can be done - for instance, I know in some Muslim countries, the prices for goods taken on loans are much higher than the cash price.
jon357
17 May 2016  #63

You do realise they pay interest, just in a different way?

Exactly, however do you think that an individual like Adrian who links to neo-nazi sites and posts holocaust denial nonsense is remotely interested in the truth...
AdrianK9
18 May 2016  #64

In the UK example that was proposed, the intention was that the students would agree to pay a "donation" which would be put into a pool to help pay for future Islamic-friendly student loans.

Do you have a source showing this?
delphiandomine
18 May 2016  #65

independent.co.uk/student/news/sharia-student-loans-will-muslim-students-avoid-paying-interest-on-finance-for-higher-education-9268079.html

It's here - I don't know if it has actually been implemented, but as you can see, they're paying interest - just in a different way. It's actually not a bad model for all student loans.
Kezcaisim
18 May 2016  #66

[moved from]

what happened to the people allover the wold ?

Jews happened.
Lyzko
18 May 2016  #67

You'll have to explain that last remark!
AdrianK9
18 May 2016  #68

independent.co.uk/student/news/sharia-student-loans-will-muslim-students-avoid-paying-interest-on-finance-for-higher-education-9268079.html

Under the new plans a special advisory committee would oversee a mutual fund pooling model (takaful), whereby those who have been to university and moved on to well-paid jobs help to pay for those who come along after them.

Yet in doing so the Government has been criticised for creating a scheme that is only superficially avoiding interest and hiding it behind the "smokescreen" of a fund pool system.

They're attempting to set up a fund - the only thing is that Muslim students would pay into AFTER graduating and once they've received a good job.

So no - Muslims would not have to pay any interest on student loans...

Sheikh Suhaib Hasan, from the UK Islamic Sharia Council, told BBC Asian Network: "By limiting the repayments to a benchmark similar to that of conventional bank interest rates, Sharia-compliant schemes I think are nothing but a smokescreen through which a prohibited matter turns into a permitted one, so it's better to leave it as it is."

So much for separation of church and state...

Jews happened.

Now they control the majority of the banks, media outlets, and political institutions of the various European towns, cities, countries that were kicked out of in the past. Funny how the tables have turned.
jon357
18 May 2016  #69

Under the new plans a special advisory committee would oversee a mutual fund pooling model (takaful), whereby those who have been to university and moved on to well-paid jobs help to pay for those who come along after them.

Excellent news.
AdrianK9
18 May 2016  #70

It's a plan - it doesn't mean it will be phased in. Also, since it's a fund people can decide not to contribute while still taking advantage of 'halal' student loans and not paying any interest. Of course the Muslim politicians will make life better for their fellow Muzzies and gradually erode seperation of church and state. Even buses in London have phrases that say 'Subhan Allah' paid for by some Islamic group but the Lord's prayer was taken out of movie theaters.
delphiandomine
18 May 2016  #71

Also, since it's a fund people can decide not to contribute while still taking advantage of 'halal' student loans and not paying any interest.

It wouldn't work like that. They would agree to make the payments as part of their contract. There's a multitude of ways that it can be done - just because they don't pay interest in the traditional Western way doesn't stop them from paying for the cost of the loan somehow. Regardless of what you might think, the average British Muslim is very honest in business transactions.

Put it this way, I would sooner do business with a British Muslim than a Pole.

Of course the Muslim politicians will make life better for their fellow Muzzies and gradually erode seperation of church and state.

Really? Care to point at where that's happening in the UK? Most of them know fine well that the only way they can stay in politics is to stay well away from these issues. Most Muslim politicians are very community-focused, which is why they get votes.
AdrianK9
18 May 2016  #72

Regardless of what you might think, the average British Muslim is very honest in business transactions.

I'm sure they are. I trust Muslims far more than Jews when it comes to business. Muslims are against usury, while to Jews usury of goys takes on religious proportions (Talmud).

It wouldn't work like that. They would agree to make the payments as part of their contract.

This shouldn't even be a debate - if a student wants to go to a public university in the UK and take out a loan - religion shouldn't be a part of how they pay interest. It's a violation of church and state. I thought England was suppose to be a secular country yet there are plans to accommodate a minority of immigrants from 3rd world countries.

Why not give interest free loans to all British people then? Why is that only one specific group should receive special treatment or get some kind of 'fund'

Really? Care to point at where that's happening in the UK?

I just did - Subhan Allah slogans on London's public buses. Another example of erosion of church and state.
delphiandomine
18 May 2016  #73

This shouldn't even be a debate - if a student wants to go to a public university in the UK and take out a loan - religion shouldn't be a part of how they pay interest.

Well, look at what the plans were. They were actually proposing something quite sustainable - the idea that Muslim students should be paying into a fund that would then be used to fund future student loans is much more sustainable than the normal model where the government has been unilaterally changing payment terms. Bear in mind that (at least for now), these loans are all backed by the government rather than being on a commercial basis.

Why not give interest free loans to all British people then? Why is that only one specific group should receive special treatment or get some kind of 'fund'

But they aren't interest free at all. They might not charge interest in the traditional way, but they're still paying it.

For what it's worth, if they're introduced, they'll be open to all. It's even possible that it might become the normal model for funding student loans as a way to get the loan book off the government. To me, it actually sounds like a very fair model - you benefit from loans today, so in future, you'll pay more than the original loan into a fund that will be used to fund others.

By the way, there's no separation of Church and State in the UK. That's a French concept.
Polonius3
19 May 2016  #74

Merged: Halal, Kosher, LGBT agenda forced on everyone

Leaders of Muslims in Australia/NewZealand are bullying large commercial organizations (especially in the food industry) into paying what is no more than blatant extortion money. The amazing part is that these weak-kneed organizations (Cadbury/ Schweppes/ Nestlés/ Kraft etc.) actually pay the large sums demanded by these self-appointed religious bureaucrats.

Of course, the manufacturers promptly pass this levy on to unwitting consumers as cost increases. Next time you buy a block of Cadbury's chocolate, look for the Halal Certification seal on the wrapper. So, regardless of your own religious faith, you end up subsidizing Islam.

Many people don't know that they are also overpaying due to forced kosherization of food products. The Halal folk have simply taken their cues from the Jews and also want a slice of the pie. The LGBT crowd is now trying to impose public toielts based on subjective gender identity. Target stores were the first to succumb but other weak-kneed imitators will surely follows. The bottom line is that society is now surrounded and extrted by agenda-ised fanatics. And for the sake of peace and harmony to get them off one's back, some people grudgingly go along.
smurf
19 May 2016  #75

Leaders of Muslims in Australia/NewZealand

I think you put in the wrong web address troll,

This is Polish Forums

Stupid paid shill can't even shill properly
Levi
19 May 2016  #76

Funny thing: There is a law in European Union where you cannot discriminate any employment offer by religion at any for profit institution.

Still, Halal butcheries have the pre-requisite of Employ ONLY muslim butchers.

Actually, the main idea of Halal is to create a market reserve that guarantees more jobs for muslims in detriment of other people. At the bottom line, when you eat Halal, you are firing you 60 old neighbout of the local butchery and employing a Somaliam one on his place.
Polonius3
20 May 2016  #77

separation of Church and State

With the exception of France which, I beleive, still bans Muslim shawls at school, elsewhere in Europe and North America it should be rephrased to read: SEPARATION OF CHRISTIANITY FROM STATE. The imposition of Kosher and Halal laws on the general public without their knowledge or consent is surely a violation of laïcité.
AdrianK9
20 May 2016  #78

Target stores

Lost $10 billion dollars thanks to their 'trans friendly' policy. I was one of the people that signed the boycott and I will not be a patron of any business that follows this type of policy... in the same way I also participate in the BDS boycott against Israel - which is actually illegal for certain people in certain places to participate in (i.e. England, Illinois).
sam6
20 May 2016  #79

Merged: Psychological barriers between Arabs and Europeans

what do you think the reasons of Psychological barriers between Arabs and Europeans ?

Is it different mores and traditions?
Religions?
Fear of the other?
Mutual hatred?
Previous disagreements?
Feelers ?

We are all human beings
whocares
20 May 2016  #80

Soros is a rat. Hungary, Russia and China have criticized him openly.
Many politicians in the West and Poland are married to Jewish people.
Poland should join BRIC.

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