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Let's discuss muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians


whocares
22 May 2016  #91

I have a feeling you are totally ignorant on the Bible for making such a stupid statement and claim about it.

There are different versions of Bibles and in different languages.
The Bible is differently intrepeted by each sect.
In your US, there are over 1000 weirdo Protestant sects.

I'll stick to my Polish and Catholic Bibles.
You can grab whatever John Hagee or King James Bible you want.

Americans tend to be very ignorant about affairs outside their country.

Im quite sure you aient Catholic either.
You might hang arent those Westboro Baptist types lol.
johnny reb
22 May 2016  #92

Jews are no longer the chosen people. The New testament makes that concept void.

I'll stick to my Polish and Catholic Bibles.

O.k., where in the Catholic Bible in the New Testament can you back up your statement ?
Book, chapter, verse please.
And if you can't it may seem YOU are the one that has been brainwashed.

There are different versions of Bibles

Only the Catholic one which is Catholic 'doctrine" which was written by man.
The Bible is the inspired word of God.
dolnoslask
23 May 2016  #93

The Bible is the inspired word of God." Amen
delphiandomine
23 May 2016  #94

The Bible is the inspired word of God.

Which one? There are many.
dolnoslask
23 May 2016  #95

"Which one? There are many.", I am surprised you do not know the answer delph given that you live in catholic Poland.
delphiandomine
23 May 2016  #96

Johnny seems to be confused, so I'm just wondering which one he's talking about.

Mind you, anyone professing to be a Christian should certainly be familiar with the Quarn too. A lot of very interesting things there that are relevant for Christians.
sam6
23 May 2016  #97

In my personal opinion that
That materially and politically contribute to the solution of the armed conflict in Syria is the best solution for Europeans
When the Syrian crisis is over, there will be NO more immigrants to European countries

I agree that immigrants, especially to those countries experiencing economic problems will make the issue more complicated

Eastern Europe chosing to Russian interests and it hurts their interests with Western Europe and the European Union

France is the only political efforts that are being made and Britain timidly

And other countries are silent

Do not judge people by their religions
Judge them by their morals and their dealings
Religion a personal freedom
johnny reb
23 May 2016  #98

I am surprised you do not know the answer delph

He knows the answer as I already answered the question, he just wants to argue.
Tonight he is pretending to be an expert on the Holy Bible.
I won't waste my time.

Christian should certainly be familiar with the Quarn too. A lot of very interesting things there that are relevant for Christians.

Now delph is pretending to be an Expert on the Cow too.
You are correct on that delph as in;
Thou shall not kill by beheadings
Thou shall not beat your wife
Thou shall not commit adultery with more than one wife
Love thy neighbor as thy self and not hate Jews
Thou shall not have strange gods before me like cows
Thou shall not pray with repetitious prayer with your butt up in the air facing east.

Now you name five things that are relevant.
You only have three minutes to respond to avoid googling them Mr. Expert on Everything. lol
delphiandomine
23 May 2016  #99

He knows the answer as I already answered the question, he just wants to argue.

You haven't answered it at all. Which version of the Bible do you consider to be correct? Do you view the Millenium Bible as being more correct than the King James one, for instance?
johnny reb
24 May 2016  #100

You haven't answered it at all.

Sure I have, you just don't understand much about it so it just seems to you that I haven't answered which I most definitely have.

Either that or you are just pretending again for the sake of an argument.

Which version of the Bible do you consider to be correct?

Is that one of your trick questions delph. lol
That is like asking me which religion is more correct, the Catholic or the Protestant.
So to answer that it would depend on who you were asking, a Protestant or a Catholic as they both have different beliefs.

Do you view the Millenium Bible as being more correct than the King James one, for instance?

Again to rephrase that for you, do I think the Catholic or the Protestant Bible is more correct. lol
I can't answer that delph as I have never studied the Millenium however since the first edition of the Millenium was published in 1965 as a translation from the original languages of the Bible to be used in the liturgy of the RCC in Poland you tell us what your guess would be since you are neutral by being neither Catholic or Protestant.

My guess would be that they are both almost the same exact translation using different wording.
This is just another reason that you should join the Catholic Church in Poland to learn these things first hand and not be like the poster "whocares" that knows just enough to get himself in trouble by spewing his false remarks that he has been brainwashed with.
sam6
24 May 2016  #101

Merged: why religions

Based on my observations on this forum
most topic talking about religions , and everyone is trying to accuse the other because of his different religion .

All human beings, whatever the beliefs and religions have good and evil. Each person is responsible his actions.

There are examples of output from evil people, Christians, Jews, Muslims and Buddha etc.

I guess that most of the members here have thought, culture and education makes them able to stop this bickering and insulting to others under the pretext of different religions and accuse others of not , only for the reason they are of a different religion

The right way is to punish anyone who offend others Far from looking at his religion ( Everyone under the law )

We are all the sons of this land, and we must all strive for a happy life, tolerance, and we all work for the general interest of all human beings
Jardinero
24 May 2016  #102

Based on my observations on this forum most topic talking about religions

Your observations must be wrong.
sam6
24 May 2016  #103

I mean that during the debate on any subject often one or more member will talk about
and the goal of subject is far from religions
Jardinero
24 May 2016  #104

I mean that during the debate on any subject

It happens, but most of them are not about religion.
sam6
24 May 2016  #105

Jardinero

ok my friend a lot of them
Jardinero
24 May 2016  #106

Some of them is more realistic.
Wulkan
24 May 2016  #107

I mean that during the debate on any subject often one or more member will talk about and the goal of subject is far from religions

I can guarantee you they would not talk about religion if your was different.
johnny reb
25 May 2016  #108

most topic talking about religions , and everyone is trying to accuse the other because of his different religion .

Nope, you are confusing religions with those who do and do not take Jesus Christ for their personal Savior.
The believers verses the non believers more so then about any religion in particular.
Now you being an Islamist who doesn't take Jesus Christ as your personal Savior would be in conflict with say a Catholic who does.

That is the basic difference here because Poland is 98.5% Catholic.
I hope I cleared that up for you.
sam6
25 May 2016  #109

Wulkan

relay I hope that from today .

johnny reb

This information does not matter now.

I mean

When the subject of religion, I do not mind talking about religions

But if the subject of the economy, sports or tourism or cosmic phenomena and personal relationships

Do not accuse religions
Because of the actions of some people
AdrianK9
25 May 2016  #110

No matter what version of the Bible you take or even the Quran, none of it compares to the filth found inside the Talmud. I've never seen passages promoting incest and sex with toddlers in the Koran or any Bible, yet in the Talmud, specifically the Sanhedrin, it's permissible to have sex with a toddler as long as he or she is atleast 3 years old and 1 day. The Talmud also describes different situations when a woman sleeping with a dog or her son would be considered unclean or clean. Atleast the Koran waits till the girl is atleast 9 years old and doesn't discuss whether sleeping with animals is clean or not - that kind of crap didn't even cross the authors minds.. not in the Talmud though, especially the Sanhedrin and Kethuboth.

Truly a sick disgusting book. Perhaps this is why pedophilia is such a problem in Hasidic communities and among rabbis.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/rebel-rabbi-exposes-child-molesters.html
Long list of Jewish Child Molesting Rabbis
100777.com/node/463
johnny reb
25 May 2016  #111

In all fairness Adrian Bill Clinton claims to be a Christian and he has been know to enjoy under aged girls too.
What is it about these under aged girls that are not even fully developed yet that these perverts get off on ?
Slick Willie went on the Lolita Express 27 time to an island off Texas to "party" with children half his daughters age.
Thank the good Lord that the owner of that island has now been convicted and is sitting in prison.

This information does not matter now.

It does to me as conveniently as you don't care to debate the embarrassing facts.
Something just ain't normal when a religion allows grown men to do NINE years old little girls and goats Sam, give me a break.
sam6
25 May 2016  #112

johnny reb

bishop-accountability.org/reports/2004_02_27_JohnJay/index.html

I can send a lot of this >

I Think no need for break now :)
AdrianK9
26 May 2016  #113

In all fairness Adrian Bill Clinton claims to be a Christian and he has been know to enjoy under aged girls too.

Well, he clearly isn't faithful to Hillary, although looking at her... I wouldn't be either. The sad thing is though, she's willing to be a cuckold as long as she can remain in power. Truly sad that as a woman instead of dumping him for all the affairs, cheating, and infidelity - she not only doesn't care but in many cases protects him and threatens the women!

To think this may be the next presidential family is just scary and has shown how far morality has declined in the US.... 'A cheater and a cuckold, sitting in the white house - S-C-A-M-M-I-N-G...' that ought to be a childrens' rhyme...

enslaved millions of Negros,

Actually, that's a common misconception. Yes, the British and Dutch were involved in the slave trade, but actually the Jews were among the most active in this industry. Tje Jews have altered history to blame the whites for the slave trade and create racial tensions when they themselves actually dominated this trade. Even Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan discussed this in a speech in NYC. There are several books on this topic such as A Documentary History, Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews (criticized as a canard but nonetheless includes thousands of slave auction notices and other first hand evidence showing the Jew's domination of this trade), The Jewish Onslaught: Despatches from the Wellesley Battlefront, and many other works.

Dr. Raphael's book Jews and Judaism in the United States:

In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated.... This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the 'triangular trade' that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies..."

Mr Wiech
26 May 2016  #114

the Jews

That is this kind of talk that is not needed. It gives Poles a bad name abroad talking about Jews all the time, if there is no need. Slave trade is not fault of the Dutch or British but blame it all on Jews, why don't you visit a doctor and check your head.
dolnoslask
26 May 2016  #115

talking about Jews all the time

Well i'm glad someone else thinks the same way.

When I was growing up in a Polish family within a Polish community I can honestly say no one ever mentioned the Jews in conversation at all, the same here in Poland, In the three years I have lived here I have never heard anyone speak about Jews in general conversation, why is such a big topic on PF?
johnny reb
26 May 2016  #116

why is such a big topic on PF?

Adrian was just discussing the title of this thread.
Besides, why is it so taboo to call a spade a spade when it comes to the Jews ?
Are they special some how to be exempt from criticism ?
Ziemowit
26 May 2016  #117

In the three years I have lived here I have never heard anyone speak about Jews in general conversation, why is such a big topic on PF?

Are they special some how to be exempt from criticism ?

The topic is undoubtedly discussed on a disproportionate scale on the PF. I have been living in Poland much much longer than you, Niederschlesier, but my impression on it is exactly the same as yours. Foreign people who come to the PFto read it are likely to make an absolutely false assumption that such a topic is being constantly talked about in Polish homes.There are of course, some people of older generations still obsessed about the Jews in the pre-war Poland style, but these days they are exceptions really. Some of them have managed to pass this obsession onto younger generations, but these younger ones are even the more rare. The topic is not en vogue any more as a topic for a conversattion, putting aside what people may think to themselves. I have someone in my own family whom I may call anti-semitic or obsessed about the Jews, but after having been regularly ridiculed by his growing-up daughters every time he opened his mouth to talk about the Jews, he has finally chosen to shut up and stopped introducing this topic at family meetings to the great relief of other family members.

That's the reality of the present-day Poland which is so much different from the realities of the PolishForums. And that is why I sometimes warn that the motto of this site "The ultimate guide to Poland" is something you shouldn't take to your heart when you are reading the PF.
dolnoslask
26 May 2016  #118

Are they special some how to be exempt from criticism ?

Not at All but in daily life in Poland the Jewish topic never comes up, the same when I lived in the UK, I wasn't being specific about Adrian here others have very strong negative views about Jewish people, I get the feeling that Polams have problems with jews on this forum, Is there a specific problem in America when it comes to Jews?

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AdrianK9
26 May 2016  #119

That is this kind of talk that is not needed. It gives Poles a bad name abroad talking about Jews all the time, if there is no need.

I recommend you watch this video and see if it changes your mind.

Total Control Of The United States │ The Israeli/Jewish Lobby │Full Documentary youtube.com/watch?v=d7tUEqjmIWE

There is a need because the common misconception is that white america is wholly responsible for the slave trade. Many academics have researched this topic and provided first hand evidence including auction notices, runaway slave rewards, amongst other documents that shows the Jews dominated this trade. There have been quite a few books and essays written on this topic as described above with a specific quotation.

Furthermore, Zionists are involved in much of the topics we discuss. For example,the Jewish lobby pushes gay marraige (newobserveronline.com/jews-promote-homosexual-marriage-in-america-but-outlaw-it-in-israel/) ,the Jewish lobby pushes unchecked immigration(Zionist Senator Javits and his 1965 Open Immigration Act - he famously said 'Open the floodgates!' other Zionists like Emmanuel Celler, AJC president Leo Pfeffer's lobby was totally on board, and Zionist necon CFR member Norman Podhoretz were the most avid supporters of this bill.) and even gun control - even NRA board memberTed Nugent saidJewish lobbies are behind gun control laws (namely Zionists who are against gun control specifically include Rahm Emmanual - mayor of Chicago and former Obama chief of staff, Chuck Schumer, Senator Frank Lutenberg, Senator Carl Levin, Dan Gross, Max Nacheman of Ceasefire PA, Alan Dershowitz - and other Zionists who's list of gun control advocates read like a guest list at a bar mitzvah).

The Jews continue to push for unrestricted immigration - in both US and Europe - therefore it is important to mention the groups that are pushing these types of policies - which more often than not includes Zionists. Zionist lobbies like AIPAC, AJC, etc. are the most powerful and influential lobbies in the US.Just about every single branch of government and other influential international groups are controlled by Zionists - the cabinet, the treasury, the CFR, the Federal Reserve, the Pentagon, the IMF, and of course on top of it 5 out of the 6 'Big 6' media outlets are also owned by Zionists.I could literally come up with a list of at least 100 names of Zionists who head these key government institutions. If there is a big media group, an important government agency, or powerful international organization - you can bet that it is mostly controlled by Zionists.

Even in obscure places like Moldova - you can bet that there's a Zionist at the top. A young guy in his 20's named Ilan Shor, an Israeli citizen, literally STOLE 10% of the entire country's GDP singlehandedly. The citizens were taxed even further and had to tighten their belts and bail out failing banks just because of one treacherous Zionist's actions.

Even Poland's 1991 Bank Privatization Bill was literally WRITTEN by the Zionist bank Warburg of England. Belka's conversation revealed that he wishes to thank Baron Rothschild and ask for his help in propping up the Polish economy. Last time I checked, we were discussing the banking situation of Poland, the Commie alliance with the post-Commie politicians, and the selling out of Poland's banking assets to 'foreign' (aka Zionist - like Warburgs and Rothschilds) interests.

Then we have Poles like Jan Gross and Michnik who criticizes Poland's roles during WW2 - saying that they're as bad as the Nazis and they're the reason why so many Jews were killed. This is why we must discuss these topics and expose these traitors.

For decades Israel has violated well established precepts of international law and defied numerous United Nations resolutions in its occupation of conquered lands, in extra-judicial killings, and in its repeated acts of military aggression. Yet, there are no sanctions against Israel. The Jewish lobby has influenced all of America - both Republicans and Democrats - to simultaneously hate Iran and demand that they end their nuclear program - despite the fact they've had more inspections by the IAEA than any other country. On the other hand, Israel has a secret nuclear weapons program and has NEVER allowed an IAEA inspector.

Israel is the epitome of hipocrisy and the Jewish lobby in the US (and even in Europe) pushes for everything that is destructive to a nation - unchecked immigration, gay marriage, strict gun control, accepting of migrants - all things that they DO NOT WANT IN ISRAEL.

The Jewish lobby and people like Trump say that Obama is the worst president in terms of US-Israel relations. We give Israel $3 billion a year - about $30 million every single day! We constantly go to war for them and Isreal and the Jewish lobby decides what wars America fights - the Zionist have total control of America's finance, media, and politics. That is FACT as they are at the apex of power in every important organization in the US - private banks, the Fed, cabinet, treasury, countless senators and congressman (many of whom even have dual US-Isreali citizenship), pentagon (let's not forget PENTAGON COMPTROLLER RABBI DOV ZAKHIEM - WHO STOLE $2 TRILLION, YES TRILLION! and has NEVER been accountable - that is just one of the many despicable treasonous acts he has committed), the defense industry, and countless others.

the same here in Poland, In the three years I have lived here I have never heard anyone speak about Jews in general conversation, why is such a big topic on PF?

You will find that anti-antisemitism was very well reigned in Poland from the time the country entered the EU. However, now people are realizing that it's not actually patriotic Poles running the country but rather a conspiracy of bankers, Zionists, masons, internationalists, neocons, and their liberal pro-multi kulti minions. We understand that the Zionists are firmly in control of Poland's media and banking institutions and are fighting the Catholic church and conservative beliefs to turn Poland into the multi kulti liberal utopia where they have total control like in the west.

Anyone who watches the movie 'The Eternal Jew' will see the parallels between society in the 1930's in US and Europe and that it is scarily similar to the present age - now it's actually even worse as there's even more Zionists in power and at least in the 1930's Israel didn't exist.
dolnoslask
26 May 2016  #120

Total Control Of The United States │ The Israeli/Jewish Lobby

So It is more of an American concern then?

When I lived in Texas again no one talked about the Jews, they talked about Black people and Mexicans from time to time , some positive and some negative.

I guess in the UK there was a concern about the Masons ruling the government and the justice system. but this has died off in the last ten years or so.

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