Let's discuss muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians

Now Muslim students are offered student loans that conform to Sharia - basically, they won't have to pay any interest on student loans because that isn't halal...

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3593821/Sharia-students-loans-not-conflict-rules-Islam-offered-time-drive-Muslims-university.html


Here's a couple good websites about the religion in peace -

This one specifically documents Islamic attacks everyday - thereligionofpeace.com
On the side is a 'Jihad Report' which states how many attacks there were in the past 30 days - 1,421 killed according to today's numbers. You can go on the 'attacks' link to see the specific attack, location, death total, etc.

pamelageller.com - brave woman who stands up to Muslim extremists and Muslim immigrants - she held a 'Draw Muhammed' contest to exercise her right of free speech but of course crazy extremist muslims showed up with guns... I've never heard of any Catholics shooting people over offensive art depicting Jesus in Chocolate and calling it 'Sweet Jesus' or a crucifix placed in urine - offensive, yes... but we didn't kill anyone over it..

barenakedislam.com - recent news site with various postings related to Islam and its effect around the world.

You do realise they pay interest, just in a different way?

In the UK example that was proposed, the intention was that the students would agree to pay a "donation" which would be put into a pool to help pay for future Islamic-friendly student loans. The end result is exactly the same - the donation would be pegged at the level of interest paid in a normal loan.

There's quite a few different ways that it can be done - for instance, I know in some Muslim countries, the prices for goods taken on loans are much higher than the cash price.

Exactly, however do you think that an individual like Adrian who links to neo-nazi sites and posts holocaust denial nonsense is remotely interested in the truth...

Do you have a source showing this?

independent.co.uk/student/news/sharia-student-loans-will-muslim-students-avoid-paying-interest-on-finance-for-higher-education-9268079.html

It's here - I don't know if it has actually been implemented, but as you can see, they're paying interest - just in a different way. It's actually not a bad model for all student loans.

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Jews happened.

You'll have to explain that last remark!

Under the new plans a special advisory committee would oversee a mutual fund pooling model (takaful), whereby those who have been to university and moved on to well-paid jobs help to pay for those who come along after them.

Yet in doing so the Government has been criticised for creating a scheme that is only superficially avoiding interest and hiding it behind the "smokescreen" of a fund pool system.

They're attempting to set up a fund - the only thing is that Muslim students would pay into AFTER graduating and once they've received a good job.

So no - Muslims would not have to pay any interest on student loans...

Sheikh Suhaib Hasan, from the UK Islamic Sharia Council, told BBC Asian Network: "By limiting the repayments to a benchmark similar to that of conventional bank interest rates, Sharia-compliant schemes I think are nothing but a smokescreen through which a prohibited matter turns into a permitted one, so it's better to leave it as it is."

So much for separation of church and state...


Now they control the majority of the banks, media outlets, and political institutions of the various European towns, cities, countries that were kicked out of in the past. Funny how the tables have turned.

Excellent news.

It's a plan - it doesn't mean it will be phased in. Also, since it's a fund people can decide not to contribute while still taking advantage of 'halal' student loans and not paying any interest. Of course the Muslim politicians will make life better for their fellow Muzzies and gradually erode seperation of church and state. Even buses in London have phrases that say 'Subhan Allah' paid for by some Islamic group but the Lord's prayer was taken out of movie theaters.

It wouldn't work like that. They would agree to make the payments as part of their contract. There's a multitude of ways that it can be done - just because they don't pay interest in the traditional Western way doesn't stop them from paying for the cost of the loan somehow. Regardless of what you might think, the average British Muslim is very honest in business transactions.

Put it this way, I would sooner do business with a British Muslim than a Pole.


Really? Care to point at where that's happening in the UK? Most of them know fine well that the only way they can stay in politics is to stay well away from these issues. Most Muslim politicians are very community-focused, which is why they get votes.

I'm sure they are. I trust Muslims far more than Jews when it comes to business. Muslims are against usury, while to Jews usury of goys takes on religious proportions (Talmud).


This shouldn't even be a debate - if a student wants to go to a public university in the UK and take out a loan - religion shouldn't be a part of how they pay interest. It's a violation of church and state. I thought England was suppose to be a secular country yet there are plans to accommodate a minority of immigrants from 3rd world countries.

Why not give interest free loans to all British people then? Why is that only one specific group should receive special treatment or get some kind of 'fund'


I just did - Subhan Allah slogans on London's public buses. Another example of erosion of church and state.

Well, look at what the plans were. They were actually proposing something quite sustainable - the idea that Muslim students should be paying into a fund that would then be used to fund future student loans is much more sustainable than the normal model where the government has been unilaterally changing payment terms. Bear in mind that (at least for now), these loans are all backed by the government rather than being on a commercial basis.


But they aren't interest free at all. They might not charge interest in the traditional way, but they're still paying it.

For what it's worth, if they're introduced, they'll be open to all. It's even possible that it might become the normal model for funding student loans as a way to get the loan book off the government. To me, it actually sounds like a very fair model - you benefit from loans today, so in future, you'll pay more than the original loan into a fund that will be used to fund others.

By the way, there's no separation of Church and State in the UK. That's a French concept.

Merged: Halal, Kosher, LGBT agenda forced on everyone

Leaders of Muslims in Australia/NewZealand are bullying large commercial organizations (especially in the food industry) into paying what is no more than blatant extortion money. The amazing part is that these weak-kneed organizations (Cadbury/ Schweppes/ Nestlés/ Kraft etc.) actually pay the large sums demanded by these self-appointed religious bureaucrats.

Of course, the manufacturers promptly pass this levy on to unwitting consumers as cost increases. Next time you buy a block of Cadbury's chocolate, look for the Halal Certification seal on the wrapper. So, regardless of your own religious faith, you end up subsidizing Islam.

Many people don't know that they are also overpaying due to forced kosherization of food products. The Halal folk have simply taken their cues from the Jews and also want a slice of the pie. The LGBT crowd is now trying to impose public toielts based on subjective gender identity. Target stores were the first to succumb but other weak-kneed imitators will surely follows. The bottom line is that society is now surrounded and extrted by agenda-ised fanatics. And for the sake of peace and harmony to get them off one's back, some people grudgingly go along.

I think you put in the wrong web address troll,

This is Polish Forums

Stupid paid shill can't even shill properly

Funny thing: There is a law in European Union where you cannot discriminate any employment offer by religion at any for profit institution.

Still, Halal butcheries have the pre-requisite of Employ ONLY muslim butchers.

Actually, the main idea of Halal is to create a market reserve that guarantees more jobs for muslims in detriment of other people. At the bottom line, when you eat Halal, you are firing you 60 old neighbout of the local butchery and employing a Somaliam one on his place.

With the exception of France which, I beleive, still bans Muslim shawls at school, elsewhere in Europe and North America it should be rephrased to read: SEPARATION OF CHRISTIANITY FROM STATE. The imposition of Kosher and Halal laws on the general public without their knowledge or consent is surely a violation of laïcité.

Lost $10 billion dollars thanks to their 'trans friendly' policy. I was one of the people that signed the boycott and I will not be a patron of any business that follows this type of policy... in the same way I also participate in the BDS boycott against Israel - which is actually illegal for certain people in certain places to participate in (i.e. England, Illinois).

Merged: Psychological barriers between Arabs and Europeans

what do you think the reasons of Psychological barriers between Arabs and Europeans ?

Is it different mores and traditions?
Religions?
Fear of the other?
Mutual hatred?
Previous disagreements?
Feelers ?

We are all human beings

Soros is a rat. Hungary, Russia and China have criticized him openly.
Many politicians in the West and Poland are married to Jewish people.
Poland should join BRIC.

Trump & Clinton daughters are all married to Jews. Considering the incredible openly and acceptable nepotism, can't really blame them.

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Sure there is.
Israel is the Holy Land that God promised His chosen people the Jews.
Where have you been ?

Many American Christians have been brainwashed by a false idealogy of dispensationalism.
The ones spreading this were Protestant Evangelicals. Most Catholics dont support Zionism.

Todays Israel has nothing to do with God. It was funded and created by Rothschilds and Freemasonic types.
The state of Israel was created by terrorism and land theft. Its an apartheid nation.

If you are Catholic you shouldnt support Israel.

Jews are no longer the chosen people. The New testament makes that concept void.

And where would that be located in the New Testament ?
Which book in the Bible, chapter and verses please.

If you were Catholic youd know that we often take things symbolically in the Bible.

Only Fundies/Evangelical are still doing the word by word thing. You can read into En sola sciptura
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura

The Authority of most Protestants is the Bible. This is what Luther was spreading.
The Authority of Catholics is Jesus Christ, The Holy Church (the Roman Catholic Church).

You gotta stay away From these types like John Hagee, Pat Roberson, Joel Osteen, Phelps.
They are all anti-Catholic Evangelicals. And they have lots of influence in the US.
Keep to Catholic sources.


vs


catholicknight.blogspot.ca/2011/01/catholic-church-is-israel.html

Malmö - the most antisemitic place in Sweden.


What's antisemitic in Gdynia? you?


Give us a break with this piece of rag.

That's what I thought, you can't show me.
You are full of little green apples is what you are by spreading such lies.


Since you can't back your statement up. it would make one believe that you are the one that has been brainwashed.

Oh for petes sake. Are you really this stubborn? The whole new testament as a whole
makes it quite clear. Jews and Israel are nothing special, they can only attain salvation if they become Christians.

I provided you a couple links.
Here is another:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology

The Church has criticized Israel, and supported the Palestine statehood.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

The Freemasonic US has not. They are busy listening to Zionist lobbies
and getting their money.

Go ask your priest and he'll likely agree with most of what I say.

I have a feeling you have no clue what dispensationalism is and there is your problem.

Its late so i'll end for now, this theology debate.

Good idea because you sure are a bag of hot air.
If you are going to make such statements then back them up.
You can't now can you.


The Bible is a Catholic source my friend.
You can't show me where it says in the Bible what you claim.
Therefore you have been brainwashed to think and spout off otherwise.


I have a feeling you are totally ignorant on the Bible for making such a stupid statement and claim about it.
Good night and when saying your night prayer ask for forgiveness for preaching falsehoods.

Merged: Jewish slave trade and castrations in Eastern Europe (including Poland)

Many do not know this but between around seventh century a.d. to around nineteenth to twentieth centuries Jews profited from trafficking slaves predominantly of Slavic origin, both women and men and children were taken from their homes and surroundings to end up in the hands of a Jewish merchant to be either castrated (if a boy/man) and circumcised (if kept within Jewish household as a personal slave) or to become concubine (if a girl/woman) and often disfigured (by Jewish women of the household). Disgusting (it's all over the internet in both Polish and English, please read before judging my thread).