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Novichok
28 Feb 2023  #541

The US of A always does what's in their best interest. Always have been, always will. End of.

Pi*ss on the sidewalk shallowness...So let me make it a bit deeper...

There are at least three layers to "the US". It takes an ignorant foreigner to lump them into one "America" or "the US of A". Here are the layers:

The top layer makes money. The second layer serves as propaganda wh*ores. The third layer does the dying part while the less lucky come back home without legs and arms but with PTSD and drug addiction. See suicide and homelessness rates among the veterans. They are the trowaway parts layer one would rather not meet on the way to buy another Rolex.

Admittedly, that pattern has changed lately because it's easier to kill from the air than in face-to-face combat. Real killing became like a video game; you can do it from your couch.

That's why American wars became more tolerable to the average a-hole. Plus they are never presented with the pay-now invoice.

GefreiterKania
28 Feb 2023  #542

The top layer makes money. The second layer serves as propaganda wh*ores. The third layer does the dying part

You pretty much described every country on earth. Everywhere, always. The difference between the USA and any other country is that the leadership of the American top layer made USA the most powerful country in the known universe. Really, I am - frankly - appalled that I have to say such obvious things here. Grow up, children.

the veterans. They are the trowaway parts layer one would rather not meet

Oh, right. Because Russia treats her soldiers and veterans so much better. Is that why you support them?

a huge ballast of useless Eastern European countries as NATO allies

Wait a minute... are you trying to hurt my feelings, Bobi? Yes. I think you are. You are trying to hurt my feelings.

:D

being forced into the embrace of China

By all means - embrace away! But the embrace (and the entire intercourse that will follow) won't be an especially romantic one, and it will be China doing all the f*cking and Russia all the bending over and buttcheek spreading. And the land war in Europe that you mentioned was started by Russia. Ukraine didn't attack Russia, NATO didn't attack Russia, America didn't attack Russia. Just reminding everyone some basic facts.

Bobko
28 Feb 2023  #543

Wait a minute... are you trying to hurt my feelings, Bobi?

No, you hurt my feelings when you say I am a child for not being able to grasp that America is the most powerful country in the world.

If I am a child for not being able to understand this, then you are an even smaller baby for not understanding that Britain, France, Germany and Italy are 1000X more important to the Americans as allies, individually, than the entirety of Eastern Europe combined.

Americans drive Italian and German cars, use French MRI machines, perform computations on British-developed ARM chips, and sell hundreds of billions of dollars worth of exports to these countries. What does America get from Eastern Europe, other than money laundering investigations which generate fees for lawyers, and sending weapons there to defend against Russia?

Novichok
28 Feb 2023  #544

Yaaaaawn... not this again. Nobody was going to invade Russia.

That's what our ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, told Saddam. She assured Saddam that any oil disputes between Iraq and Kuwait were their business and the US had no dog in this dispute. Then came 1990...and "this will not stand". Nice setup...

on your own largest f*cking country in the world that nobody was ever going to invade.

How did you get the clearance to enter the Situation Room? Did you take notes? Or are you a mind reader?

Let me suggest that if something goes from A to B and then to C, it takes little imagination to extrapolate to D. Well, Russia said, stay at C. They didn't listen so now Ukraine is like Warsaw in 1945. Which, btw, was part of the plan from the beginning. They just didn't post it on the internet.

Well, actually, they did...It went under "regime change" in Russia. It just happens that Russia does not like to be "regime changed".

Bobko
28 Feb 2023  #545

Being vassals of someone whom we consider inferior to us in almost every aspect would be unbearable.

I will return the kindness, and thank you now for your honesty. You are in essence confirming the truth of what Radoslaw Sikorski said when he said the following:

"The Polish-American alliance is not worth anything. It's even damaging, because it creates a false sense of security in Poland.

We are gonna conflict with both Russians and Germans, and we're going to think that everything is great, because we gave the Americans a blowjob. Suckers. Total suckers."


GefreiterKania
28 Feb 2023  #546

thank you now for your honesty.

Not at all. What's the point of a conversation if it's not honest? It's either attempt at deceiving the other part or a mutual d*ck stroking session - both actions not befitting real men.

Radoslaw Sikorski

The guy lost the plot long time ago. He's the new Korwin-Mikke. *rolls eyes*

Now, forgive me but it's time for me to say my rosary. It's a Pompeian Novena and takes over an hour to say, and I don't want to do it when I'm sleepy and can't concentrate. See you later, Bobi, you annoying slant-eyed barbarian.

Bobko
28 Feb 2023  #547

It's either attempt at deceiving the other part or a mutual d*ck stroking session - both actions not befitting real men.

How can they accuse of inappropriate love for Kania, when the man writes such prose?

PolAmKrakow
28 Feb 2023  #548

The United States was built upon European people. It is an export of the European heritage. Now adding African and Latin American, but still culturally very close to European countries. There are still neighborhoods all across the US that are for specific nationalities or ethnic groups. This is the tie to Europe, and one that will never go away. Too many people identify as Irish American, German American or any other combination. Whether they have been to their ancestral country or not it does not matter. This is how Americans are raised. Childish? Yes. Largely based in memories and traditions passed down from previous generations? Yes. Respected? Absolutely. So to think for one second that the US will abandon Europe is absolute idiocy. It shows that people who are saying it have no clue about US cultural ties. Just like Mexican Americans keep their ties to Mexico. These things will never go away. These are things Russia can never even hope to break. Russia has nothing like it. Just a little food for thought for all you Putinazi coxuckers who cannot recognize your own demize.

Novichok
28 Feb 2023  #549

Russia is still a nuclear superpower

The US was a nuclear super-super-power when the last chopper was lifting in a panic off the US Embassy in Saigon.
Shorter version: We had nukes and we lost anyway.
No, you don't know how nukes work. They work well against small and concentrated targets. They don't against an army of millions - spread out to include the locals.

Novichok
28 Feb 2023  #550

Those damn Russians rioting in Paris...


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Vincent
28 Feb 2023  #551

@Novichok

Please provide link to this rioting.

Bobko
28 Feb 2023  #552

I feel I've been careless today, and that a ban from
Vincent is incoming... Oh bother...

Novichok
28 Feb 2023  #553

So, openly supporting their enemies on international scene is treason.

Russia is not a US enemy. It will be that when the US declares war on Russia or vice versa.

Learn the difference between "supporting" and "understanding". I support only one country - the one I pay taxes to, have unhyphenated loyalty to, and whose side I would take in case of conflict. That's the US. But I understand why the people we like shooting shoot back. See the Taliban.

I never sent a dime, information, or anything of value to the enemies of the United States. If you send me the State Department's list of US enemies I will adjust my actions here immediately.

Bobko, you missed "r".

Bobko
28 Feb 2023  #554

Russia is not a US enemy.

I don't point this out to PAK, because I think that even he will have to wind down his illogical diatribes at that point, but I actually quite enjoy them. He's the like the real Senator McCarthy reincarnated. Haha!

But seriously, when America declares war on Russia - I'm either gonna be interned here, or will try to make my way back home by all means possible. Any serious person understands that a million things have to happen between today and that point. I trust that the leaders in both our countries will steer clear of bringing this kind of a catastrophe upon the planet. For what? 15-20M people living along the Russian border, that speak Russian, espouse the Orthodox faith, and have 1,200 years of documented history of living together? For real? Who's smoking crack here?

Novichok
28 Feb 2023  #555

Please provide link to this rioting.

youtu.be/eI02rcHzzss

Why aren't you winning the current war

Simple. Z guys use civilians as shields. Russia cannot afford to turn its army into the killers of their brothers and sisters.
Contrary to the PF Russia haters, Russians are human beings.

Bobko
28 Feb 2023  #556

hasn't been able to capture it

As Pawian would say: "Patience, Darling".

Novichok
28 Feb 2023  #557

They are drunk on their self-importance combined with Russia hating as a condition to be admitted to the club.
Like global warming, a new Western religion one does not dare question. Or one is a "traitor".

GefreiterKania
28 Feb 2023  #558

the last chopper was lifting in a panic off the US Embassy in Saigon. Shorter version: We had nukes and we lost anyway.

Saigon is not an American city. America wasn't invaded just as Russia wasn't invaded. In both cases it was the America and Russia doing the invading and in both cases the final result was/will be a defeat. Only for Russia it will be much more painful.

Russia hating as a condition to be admitted to the club

Nope. I don't hate Russia, quite the contrary - my immeasurable love for this country is well known here, and I don't support this repulsive imperial war against a fellow Slavic nation. Do you really think Russia will emerge stronger from this idiocy? She will be a shadow of her former self.

pawian
28 Feb 2023  #559

She will be a shadow of her former self.

A dozen shadows or more. We enjoy that prospect immensely coz we love Russia so much, The more Russias, the better.

GefreiterKania
28 Feb 2023  #560

rioting in Paris

Hippies gonna hippie.

But I admit that French hippies are doubly annoying. Not a single day passes by without me regretting that we taught them how to eat with knife and fork.

GefreiterKania
28 Feb 2023  #561

coz we love Russia so much

You say it in an ironic way, Pawian, whilst I am a genuine Russophile.

The more Russias, the better.

Well, there were two German states for some time and it turned out for the good of German people (and then they finally reunited). Russia is larger, so it will have to be more than two states but after they become civilised they might also be allowed to reunite one day into a state that will be as much better from the current Russia as modern Germany is better from the Third Reich. And, just as it is in case of Germany, it will be for the greater benefit of Russian people and the world in general.

Bobko
28 Feb 2023  #562

Not a single day passes by without me regretting that we taught them how to eat with knife and fork.

Classic example of Sarmatian chauvinism. Seeing itself as a gift to all nations...

GefreiterKania
28 Feb 2023  #563

Classic example of Sarmatian chauvinism.

Thank you.

Novichok
28 Feb 2023  #564

Only for Russia it will be much more painful.

Only because this war is existential in their minds and retreating is not an option. Vietnam was like a safari hunting to the American globalist mob. 58,000 dead Americans? That's just the cost of doing business. No. it was not about "communism". If it was, it's even worse. At best, a Magnificent Seven or a messiah complex.

Did you know that the vast majority in C, D, and L are Russians who would rather be part of Russia? If you have evidence to the contrary, please tell me what it is.

Novichok
1 Mar 2023  #565

Now I know why we want Russia...It's not their minerals and chess players. It's their women...
A country that has Kim and Lizzo as role models has to be desperate.


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Novichok
1 Mar 2023  #566

I forgot to add that the one on the right gave birth to the one on the left. In Russia, they call them "mothers", not birthing persons.

We have to tell them how wrong they are. Not inclusive enough if it is a man.

Hey, PAK, does this post make me a traitor, too?

GefreiterKania
1 Mar 2023  #567

Only because this war is existential in their minds

It's a good thing you added "in their minds". The Free World, however, can hardly bow down to their mental projections and neurotic anxieties, can it?

GefreiterKania
1 Mar 2023  #568

why is there such a huge demand for diapers from those

I haven't noticed any increased demand for the goods that you mentioned. Another Russian mental projection.

@Novichok

Lovely ladies. But Ukrainian ones are equally lovely and they find themselves either in a war zone or refugees in foreign lands. And because of what? Collective neurosis and acute butthurt of a nation that should know better than to invade, oppress and occupy Slavic people.

Novichok
1 Mar 2023  #569

It's a good thing you added "in their minds".

Because (1) theirs are the only minds that count and (2) the woke West has gone nuts and debates if men can get pregnant and how to define a woman.

When you reach this level of insanity, you should kill yourself or at least quit judging sane people.

Novichok
1 Mar 2023  #570

But Ukrainian ones are equally lovely

Then they must be hiding somewhere. Those I saw getting off buses in Poland were not and looked like they needed 50 grand in dental work.


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