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Velund
27 Mar 2023  #1681

So, you cannot give simple answers without moronic monologues....

"local authorities approval" is not required in any of the cases cited....

So, you are trying to talk, that in free country (US, Poland, Ukraine was given as an example) owner of property cannot set any rules of conduct or otherwise limit any freedoms of third party, that resided on this property with or without consent of owner or appointed authorities who control this property?

Then you must explain, why people who entered Capitol building was confronted by police and then arrested and jailed.

To freedoms in Ukraine we will return once you will be able to answer question above.

Because you don't have to get an "approval" for a public protest in Poland.

Have you tried to use Polish laws in Saudi Arabia for example?

Velund
27 Mar 2023  #1682

In case of spontaneous protests even that isn't necessary.

So, if someone will have spontaneous protest against lack of sex for a enormously long time, he can come to protest in your bed even without prior notification of anyone, and you (as an authority in your own bed) cannot ration it by allowing or not allowing any forms/poses of protest? ;) ;)

Paulina
27 Mar 2023  #1683

So, you cannot give simple answers without moronic monologues....

I've just given you the simplest answer possible in my previous post :))) Can't you read?

You don't need an approval from the authorities if you want to organise a protest in Poland.

Have you tried to use Polish laws in Saudi Arabia for example?

You wrote "in a free country" - I thought that by that you mean a democratic country (I'm guessing that's what maf meant). I don't consider Saudi Arabia to be "a free country" in this sense. Saudi Arabia isn't a democracy - it's a unitary Islamic absolute monarchy.

jon357
27 Mar 2023  #1684

it's a unitary Islamic absolute monarchy.

It's more about consensus between family, extended family, tribe, tribal confederation; an important thing in the Arab world. We talk (in English, Polish, whatever) about their King. In fact, his title isn't King.

Basically, they agree, something very similar to a republic or constitutional monarchy. In r*SSia however there is only force.

Velund
27 Mar 2023  #1685

You wrote "in a free country"

Ukraine was declared a "free country" above... Let's try to change Saudi Arabia to Ukraine...

Paulina
27 Mar 2023  #1686

if someone will have spontaneous protest against lack of sex for a enormously long time, he can come to protest in your bed

You're bringing down this discussion to the level absurdity and I'm guessing you're doing that on purpose :)

Public protest in Poland, as far as I understand, is defined as a protest taking place in an open space. It can take place in public spaces, like roads, squares, etc. Private property is not public property, so you can't organise a spontaneous protest in someone's bed (unless you get a permission from the owner of that private property, I guess).

I'm not sure about protest in public buildings, but I've seen protests of families of disabled people protesting in the Polish Parliament by sleeping for days on the corridors and giving interviews to the media:

rp.pl/polityka/art38188111-niepelnosprawni-i-ich-opiekunowie-koncza-protest-w-sejmie

Paulina
27 Mar 2023  #1687

During a protest in 2018 they've spent 40 days in the Parliament.

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1688

Then Poland is insane.

Velund
27 Mar 2023  #1689

defined as a protest taking place in an open space.

So, you still can ration poses and forms of such protest in your private property, but cannot to do so, if protester will come to you in a public place (square or park for example)?

Kashub1410
27 Mar 2023  #1690

The act of protest, definitively does not need permission (otherwise it wouldn't be much of a protest, but more of a legally disgruntled assembly)

Organising anything on city property however can be very different (just need to think about marches going through cities etc)

PolAmKrakow
27 Mar 2023  #1691

@Velund
hey dumb fvck, any person on a public sidewalk can walk in any direction holding any sign or wearing any clothing with a protest message so long as that message is not harassing a business on the path of walking. No permission needed as it falls under freedom of speach. Local ordinances regarding obscenities excluded of course. That is the law in the US. Appears to be the same more or less in Poland.

All the idiocy in Russia looks to of the long lasting variety.

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1692

freedom from being arrested for saying 'two words'

Try these four words in London: I hate Muslime migrants.

Western "press" has a funny relationship with the truth...

1. A woman stands in the middle of the road with a sign Save the Earth
2. She blocks traffic
3. Cops tell her to move
4. She refuses
5. Cops arrest the woman
6. Press: woman gets arrested for trying to save humanity

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1693

No, I think Poland is awesome :)))

You can be both. Sanity is tested easily by asking my favorite questions: how many and how much? That 40-day event proves that Poland is insane.

How about a mob of 10,000 for 1000 days? Still OK? If not, everybody out by closing time or we will remove you by force.

But don't feel bad. The US fails the sanity test, too. See Portland and DC.

mafketis
27 Mar 2023  #1694

owner of property cannot set any rules of conduct

There is public property and private property (not really a thing in russia....)

I can protest on public property but would need permission from the owners to protest on private property (though short and small scale protests to happen on private property without getting the police involved).

Government property (especially where there are security concerns) are another matter.

why people who entered Capitol building was confronted by police and then arrested

government building with security requirements thought lots of other protests happen in government buildings and nothing happens

freedoms in Ukraine we will return once you will be able to answer question above

I answered your questions, now get out of Ukraine.

Alien
27 Mar 2023  #1695

She blocks traffic

It's like in Germany, only German women stick to the tarmac with extra strong glue. Then they have to be cut off from the tarmac. 😁

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1696

That proves three points: (1) women are insane, (2) all good Germans died in WW2, and (3) modern Germans are pussies.
I would allow trucks to go over them after one warning. This nonsense can have very unpleasant c consequences if staged in front of fire trucks or ambulances.

I would cut the broads, not the tarmac. That tarmac didn't do anything wrong.

Velund
27 Mar 2023  #1697

Government property (especially where there are security concerns) are another matter.

Moscow Kremlin, for example, is a government property, a complex that managed by special agency, and have both completely closed areas, areas with selective access and conditionally "public" areas (like Red Square). If you plan any public action on a Red Square, especially the one that may create a crowd near zones of increased security concerns, you must get approval from respective department first. If you will try to play dumbfcuk with a "Glory to Putin" plackard, you will be arrested as soon as if you will play dumbfcuk with "Two words" plackard.

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1698

Moscow Kremlin, for example, is government property,

Kremlin, like our Congress and the White House, should be on the list of kill zones.
The disgrace of Jan 6 is not the mob but the lack of effective defense against it. There should be a red line mob is not allowed to cross or it dies.

jon357
27 Mar 2023  #1699

A new day, a new hope, a new beginning, a new journey

Isn't that a song title?

Posted in random.

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1700

I can protest on public property

Yyou can swing your fist all you want until your fist meets my nose.
Conclusion: you can protest unless you force me to yield any of my rights - the right not to hear you being one of them.

If you do it in front of a fire truck that truck should be allowed to roll over you.

mafketis
27 Mar 2023  #1701

woman stands in the middle of the road with a sign Save the Earth.... She blocks traffic

And that's why she would be arrested. Protesting by the side of the road? Okay. Blocking traffic for any reason and not stopping.... that's an arrest on your record.

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1702

that's an arrest on your record.

Only where normal humans congregate. In Western "democracies" normal is hateful. See London with "activists" sitting on the road and blocking traffic for hours while cops were just standing there like useless morons that they are - unless you say you don't like Muslim migrants. Then they spring into action...Those brave British cops...

Velund
27 Mar 2023  #1703

If you do it in front of a fire truck that truck should be allowed to roll over you.

Don't forget to include ambulance speeding to urgent case to the list.

Paulina
27 Mar 2023  #1704

Moscow Kremlin, for example, is a government property

So is the building of the Chancellery of the Prime Minister in Poland and yet there was a long-lasting protest of nurses in front of that building in 2007 - it was even called "the white town" because the nurses set up tents and would live there, they were even publishing their own newspaper, there were hunger strikes. The protest lasted a month.

protest

tents

whitetown

conditionally "public" areas (like Red Square).

That square is big and it's a tourist attraction. I doubt a single person holding an empty piece of paper could pose any security threat, considering that tourists are "somehow" allowed there.

But RuSSian security paranoia is not the point. The point is that protesting in RuSSia is pretty much impossible these days.

Check this out - and remember this is from 2021 - so even before harsher laws were implemented after the invasion in 2022:

amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/08/russia-end-of-the-road-for-those-seeking-to-exercise-their-right-to-protest/

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1705

The point is that protesting in RuSSia is pretty much impossible these days

Protesting an ongoing war as opposed to global warming is in an entirely different category because the consequences are different.
What is fun to stupid broads, is deadly to the guys on the front.

Is there any reason why you are trying to insult the Russians here with that imbecilic "RuSSia"?

Never mind, I forgot you are Polish...

Paulina
27 Mar 2023  #1706

@Novichok, it's not only about protesting against the war (which somehow took place in the US during the war in Vietnam and there were even some protests against the Iraq war).

Read that link from Amnesty International which I posted in my previous comment.

Btw, in RuSSia you can get arrested just for wearing blue and yellow sneakers or get fired for being anti-war. That's on the level of a totalitarian country.

What is fun to stupid broads, is deadly to the guys on the front.

Hmm, strange, because anti-war protests are for ending a war and thus saving the lives of soldiers. So, could you elaborate?

Is there any reason why you are trying to insult the Russians here with that imbecilic "RuSSia"?

Yes and I explained my reasons already and I won't stop it, so your repetitive whining about this is futile :)

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1707

So, could you elaborate?

Easily. Protesting the war in the spring of 1942 in the USSR would get you executed and I would be happy to pull the trigger.

Just as there are 73 genders, there are many kinds of wars. This one and the one in Vietnam are as far apart as the distance of 10,000 miles and zero miles.

Also, elective as Brazillian butts vs life-saving like removing a brain tumor. NATO in Ukraine is a brain tumor to Russia and Russia has no choice but to make sure it never happens.

If you know a better way, don't be shy...

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #1708

No NATO state has invaded another.

NATO states invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. A NATO state, the US, is illegally in Syria, little boy.
Anything else equally stupid on your mind?

If I have to move another off-topic post of yours, from the 'Poland`s aid to Ukraine' thread, you will be out for 1 week minimum

evaorlando
27 Mar 2023  #1709

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evaorlando
27 Mar 2023  #1710

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