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Novichok
3 May 2023  #2731

While NATO did not create anything successful in several countries, they sure didnt ruin them.

NATO aka the US had no business being in "Libya, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Somalia" since, by its own proclamation, NATO is a defensive pact.

"Libya, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Somalia" did not attack NATO. NATO aka the US attacked them. Did the Taliban land in Florida to invoke A5 or did NATO scum land in Afghanistan and Iraq?

I am sure you will be able to explain what the US is doing in Somalia and Syria while the US is crumbling into an ungovernable mess.

Novichok
3 May 2023  #2732

Nice way to forget all the embassy bombings,

Did the US attack Saudi Arabia because 19 of its citizens gave us 9/11?

Those initial attack brought defensive retaliation. Simple.

BS. They attacked the US assets because those assets were there, instead of here. Any a-hole country playing cop all over the world can claim that it was attacked where it has no business being. Why does the US have 10 aircraft carriers? To defend the US or to be the aggressor wherever it chooses? Or to play global 911 and God?

Should Russia attack the US when a drunk American rapes a Russian girl in Moscow?
Who did Iraq attack? Or do we now attack countries because they MIGHT? Or have WMDs like India and Pakistan?
PAK, my best advice to you is to not defend the indefensible. Just admit we and NATO are the bullies because we can. Simple. And at least honest.

Novichok
3 May 2023  #2733

The census show there is only 12.1% of Black population

...but smart enough to commit 50% of all violent crimes. Those dumb Norwegians, on the other hand,....0.0001%. Embarrassing...

Tacitus
3 May 2023  #2734

Did the Taliban land in Florida

They sheltered Bin Laden who was responsible for killing thousands of Americans and who continued to plot against the USA. Invading Afghanistan was perfectly legal international law.

Novichok
3 May 2023  #2735

Is Russia a bully?

No. Russia and its land army are in defense against Western scum and their appetites. See NATO snake, slithering its slimy way toward Moscow. Yes, I know, anybody can apply...except Russia because the slimy snake needs an enemy to exist. That's why Russia was refused. Duh!

Count the navy ships and bases outside of Russia and the US and you will very quickly get the picture of who the aggressor is.

When you are done, add up the deaths caused by the cuddly Western "democracies" and the "evil" Russia since 1946. Those numbers do not fit on the same scale.

BTW, why is all that violence you mentioned always directed against the US and its assets but not China and Russia? Did terrorists ever bomb a Chinese embassy?

Well, in fact, they did. It was the US. In Belgrade. By mistake, of course. Did China attack anyone for that stunt?

They sheltered Bin Laden who was responsible for killing thousands of Americans

Learn English and the meaning of "sheltered". If Osama is wanted, you file a request to extrdite. Only a war-craving terrorist state invades a sovereign country because it wants to arrest one guy.

Can the US invade Mexico because Mexico "shelters" narcos? They killed hundreds of thousands in the US but the border is open wider than ever. Next time, try harder...

When and where did OBL kill thousands of Americans?

mafketis
3 May 2023  #2736

@Novichok

Someone's upset.... wonder why?

Novichok
3 May 2023  #2737

Ask him.

Tacitus
3 May 2023  #2738

Those numbers do not fit on the same scale.

They actually do. Korea and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan make for a very large scale on the Russian side.

file a request

The USA did ask the Taliban to extradite Bin Laden. They refused.

Mexico "shelters" narcos?

If those Narcos plan and instigate terrorist attacks that kill thousands of Americans and Mexico were to officially decide to protect them, then yes the USA would be legally justified to invade and take them out. Israel does the same all the time. State sponsored terrorism is not a trivial thing.

Try harder

No need to. That is the reason why I keep replying to your inane posts. It is just so easy to score points against you. Most of your talking points can be debunked with a little knowledge and common sense.

Novichok
3 May 2023  #2739

The USA did ask the Taliban to extradite Bin Laden. They refused.

That's what sovereign countries are allowed to do - especially when they know the request is bs based on the actions of the bser.

When a country allows in hordes of unvetted Muslim scum pretending to be "students", trains them how to fly - but not land - big planes, ignores FSB's warnings before the Boston massacre, that country has no right to be disappointed by the lack of cooperation on the part of others.

Oh, and those open borders the scum ignores, says "asylum", and walks right in ...

We asked France to extradite and France refused. Let's invade France.

To shelter means to protect. The Taliban never protected OBL. How many years did it take the US to find him and kill him? The world's number one superpower with a free hand to do whatever it wants...

Kashub1410
3 May 2023  #2740

@Bobko
@Miloslaw

I would disagree in both cases, feelings can originate back in time to very primitive and barbaric times. If the person feels Polish. Time is of no relevance here, and by that also geographical location

Lenka
3 May 2023  #2741

feelings can originate back in time to very primitive and barbaric times

Feeling yes but that is not in my opinion enough. Generations passing means more and more discrepancy between what the it was to be Polish when they moved and what it means today. Not to mention romantizacion of the past etc.

Novichok
3 May 2023  #2742

Stop soiling yourself in public. Have some dignity and leave!

Have some dignity and STFU. C3 is an asset here. Just like Bobko and Velund. You are a spineless noise machine.

Miloslaw
3 May 2023  #2743

. Generations passing means more and more discrepancy between what the it was to be Polish when they moved and what it means today

My point exactly.

My kids are proud of their Polish roots and have an interest in Polish history, cuisine and culture.But they can't speak Polish.

Miloslaw
3 May 2023  #2744

Oh, so PoleBrits like you do ?

Yeah, because Anglo Poles like me actually had Polish parents....unlike you!
Your arguments are pathetic....LOL!!!

to claim to speak the Polish language like you do.

I claim that because I do......unlike you..... I can read Polish a bit but admit that I can't write in Polish, at least not to a decent enough level.

And you?
How is your Polish from a grandparent?
I know my kids, they have Polish grandparents, but only know a few words and can't speak Polish..... Just like you.
So just F off..... Loser.

Miloslaw
3 May 2023  #2745

By my standards even you do not qualify as a Pole.

I have never said that I was a Pole.
I am an Anglo Pole.
That is very specific,because all the Poles that came to the UK were fierce patriots.
And for that reason you cannot compare them to Russian Americans.
You are comparing Apple's to bananas.

Novichok
3 May 2023  #2746

I can't write in Polish, at least not to a decent enough level.

If it's any consolation to you, neither can I. When I want to post here in a Polish thread I use Google Translate.

Novichok
3 May 2023  #2747

My kids can't place Poland on the map, speak only English, and are doing fine.

Miloslaw
3 May 2023  #2748

Yeah, that's true.
But my kids can place Poland on a map.
And your kids are closer to being Polish than mine!
I would assume that was a deliberate tactic from you....

Miloslaw
3 May 2023  #2749

When I want to post here in a Polish thread I use Google Translate.

I don't believe that for a second!

Rich, you may want to avoid your roots but you can't ignore them.
Why else are you posting on a Polish forum?

Novichok
3 May 2023  #2750

Benign neglect...nothing more.

Miloslaw
3 May 2023  #2751

I think that is unfair on your daughters.
They need to know where they came from.
They may not be interested now, but one day it will come back and bite you on the bum.

Novichok
4 May 2023  #2752

One of them tried to talk me into taking her to Poland. I said no and told her to wait until she is married. She did, they went, and had a great time.

Two things I would never tolerate in my family are the Polish language and hyphens. I asked both if they feel Polish in any way and they said no.

Good job, Novi...
Thanks.

Novichok
4 May 2023  #2753

I don't believe that for a second!

Believe it. Problem one is spelling. Problem two: Polish is not as logical as English.
Why would I admit to being less than perfect?

Why else are you posting on a Polish forum?

Because I went to Poland and they pis*ed me off. In fact, my first threat and post here were Never Again.
After that, it was downhill after some a-holes here told that I am not Polish - as if being Polish is a free ticket to heaven.

johnny reb
4 May 2023  #2754

So just F off..... Loser.

I am much more Polish than you ever will be.
Now answer my question which was:

When was the last time you visited Poland without your parents picking up the tab ?

In years.....20 ? 30 ? 40 ? 50 ? lol
And.....My last name goes back to Polish royalty which yours doesn't. HA !
You can't speak Polish anymore than the man in the moon so stop your lying.
I can speak Polish much better than you could ever dream of.
If you had Polish parents you certainly wouldn't be an atheist dummy.
Now F off and quit embarrassing yourself, Nerd.

johnny reb
4 May 2023  #2755

My kids can't speak Polish.

Neither can you, Nerd !

Novichok
4 May 2023  #2756

...my first threat and post here were Never Again.

Hey, stupid, thread, not "threat".

Feniks
4 May 2023  #2757

I rely on the Polish press

Sorry Lyzko, but your idea of what Poland was like in the past and is like these days is completely wrong. You should take note from people who actually live there, who visit and have contact with people in Poland, but no doubt you'll tell me I don't know what I'm talking about either despite being a regular visitor there over the last decade.

How is your Polish from a grandparent?

He doesn't speak it and is not of Polish descent.

My last name goes back to Polish royalty

Your surname isn't Polish. I would start paying attention to the wider interpretation of the Ninth Commandment. Nothing but lies from you.

espana
4 May 2023  #2758

hardworking

yes the first year the polak works very hard but after that ,,,,,,,,,,you get the same than getting an Ethiopian

johnny reb
4 May 2023  #2759

@ Feniks:Why do you stink like that Bald Blank Shooter:))

Because he is Hairy's new sock puppet.
His smell is so odious that it is undeniable.

mafketis
4 May 2023  #2760

new sock puppet.
His smell is so odious

Like smelling socks, do you?

That's.....odd....


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