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Joker
21 Dec 2023 #272
Ask Bratwurst Boy and Torq then...
They had to shut their forum down bc of stupid Euroleftard laws!
pawian
21 Dec 2023 #273
They had to shut their forum down bc of stupid Euroleftard laws!
BS. That`s what they claimed to avoid admitting with embarassment that there was no popular interest in taking part in their forum. Nothing was threatened with closure. A lot of controversial fora and sites run freely in Europe. E.g., neo Nazi Stormfront in Germany.
Novichok
21 Dec 2023 #274
Just ask Torq and BB what happened to ATP? Their All things Polish forum....
OK, Toq and BB, what happened to ATP?
pawian
21 Dec 2023 #275
The same what happens to hundreds or thousands of fora each year - they are closed or given up due to lack of interest.
Novichok
21 Dec 2023 #276
Memo to free speech Euros: A forum doesn't need to be banned to close. It will close "voluntarily" when posters are scared to post their real views.
We, Americans, are not scared. You, Euros, are and it shows. Bootlicking is hard to hide as it shows as absence of prohibited opinions. Like those that can offend and hurt feelings.
We like to hurt feelings. That's how we test if the target has balls and a pulse.
Paulina
21 Dec 2023 #277
As a German I depend on Poles writing in English on an international forum... PF did more for the understanding between us(at least some of us) than any history lesson in school or some politicians speech!
BB answered if for me :) For the same reason I started discussing with RuSSians and Russians in various places on the internet.
So, what BB wrote and practicing my English were the main reasons why I started posting on PF.
As far as I am concerned, their presence here is a negative.
Presence of Poles on a forum about Poland and Polish people is a "negative" according to you?? :D My God, it's a good thing that you're not voting in elections, haha lol
Is it because free speech in Poland or anywhere else in Western Europe is not really free?
Scared a little?
Scared a little?
This type of forum is banned in Europe. And they claim they have all this free speech...lol
I see you two have never visited the Polish internet lol 🤦
pawian
21 Dec 2023 #278
You, Euros, are
I didn`t notice it.
We like to hurt feelings.
However, you dislike it the other way round. You personally, I mean, possess a very delicate ego and feel hurt much too often. Ha!
Novichok
21 Dec 2023 #279
I see you two have never visited the Polish internet lol 🤦
Which forum in Poland are you posting on?
Joker
21 Dec 2023 #280
- they are closed or given up due to lack of interest.
@ pawian
@ pawian
Thats not what BB has told us and he has far more credibility than you ever had.
OK, Toq and BB, what happened to ATP?
He told us a new European rule/law made them close it down.
Im sure some leftist were behind the ruling...
pawian
21 Dec 2023 #281
Thats not what BB has told us
Coz he still has some shame left in him. Good! hahahaha
He told us a new European rule/law
BS. People are ready to invent anything to save faces.
pawian
21 Dec 2023 #283
No, it is rightists who lie. BB isn`t fully one. So he isn`t lying, he is only not telling the truth.That`s a huge difference.
Besides, you are speaking for him too much. First of all, we need to establish if he really said what you are claiming he did.
Miloslaw
21 Dec 2023 #284
Euros
Your term of "Euros" is as offensive to me as Pawians term of "Rightists".
Stop it! because it is moronic!
Americans like to think that they have more freedom than Europeans, the unfortunate truth is that is a lie.
If anything, Europeans have more freedom, in most ways, than Americans.
Novichok
21 Dec 2023 #285
If anything, Europeans have more freedom, in most ways, than Americans.
Name two things you can do and I can't.
I can name one thing I can do and you can't: I can hurt the feelings of groups without risking a visit from the cops, an arrest, and prosecution. You can't.
For example: Muslim migrants are the world's worst human scum and they should never be allowed to immigrate to the US.
You post it on any British forum and tell us how it went.
Miloslaw
21 Dec 2023 #286
@Novichok
1.Proper freedom of speech.
2.The right to protest without Police intervention.
3.Walk the streets safely.
4.Not fear gun toting gangsters.
5,Not fearing being burgled.
6.Not having mass immigration on your scale.
7.No chance of an extremist party taking power.
8.A free and mainly unbiased media.
9.Not having to worry that my neighbour has a gun and may be a nutter.....
10.Living in a country where the government makes decisions and not multiple individual states.
11.Having a Royal Family.We can never have a dictatorship because our military is loyal to the crown and not the government.
12.You seem to believe that British forums are censored, they are not.
I could think of more, but is that enough for you?
Novichok
21 Dec 2023 #287
You didn't include:
I, Milo, am free to post the following under my real name on a public British forum without fear of prosecution:
Muslim migrants are the world's worst human scum and they should never be allowed to immigrate to the UK. The UK should be kept as white as humanly possible.
For the record: In all of my posts, the word "freedom" means the ability to do and say things according to the laws, not my neighbors, my wife, my kids, local drunks, mental patients, pimps, and their wh*res...
12.You seem to believe that British forums are censored, they are not.
I never said that British forums are censored. I am saying that hurting feelings can get you sent to prison and that fear leads to self-censorship.
We fear unemployment, not prison. You fear both.
Vincent
21 Dec 2023 #288
@ Miloslaw
I can't agree with you on some parts of your list.
1. I don't think we have freedom of speech any more. What about all the people that have been cancelled for speaking out about basic biology etc, and speaking out about certain religious groups.
5. Burglaries are still pretty high in most cities.
6. We have had high immigration for the last couple of years, not on the same scale as the USA because we are a small country, but if you compare oranges with oranges, it is too many and unsustainable. 750,00000 so call legals and 29,000 illegals this year alone.
8. The media has been captured for a few years now, and is totally biased, and they are all singing from the same hymn sheet.
Novichok
21 Dec 2023 #289
6. We have had high immigration for the last couple of years,
Numbers alone do not tell the whole gory story of the invasion of Europe. Your flood is carcinogenic by incompatible people who have no intentions to work and assimilate. With 70% on welfare and 6 kids per family, this cancer will eat the host.
We are luckier...Latinos are Christians with great work ethics. They learn English quickly. The second generation is as American as anybody born here.
What about all the people that have been cancelled for speaking out about basic biology
That's common to all English-speaking countries. By now, Canada is a fascist as the USSR used to be. I have no idea why the most educated turned worst morons.
In the US, you can lose your job and friends but not freedom when you say that a man cannot ever be a woman.
Miloslaw
21 Dec 2023 #290
I can't agree with you on some parts of your list.
But I can agree on some parts of your list.
What about all the people that have been cancelled for speaking out about basic biology etc, and speaking out about certain religious groups.
All of them have been attacked by "Leftist" intimidation groups.They could all fight and survive.
Burglaries are still pretty high in most cities.
Not as high as in the USA.
750,00000 so call legals and 29,000 illegals this year alone
The legal immigration is the real problem and that is controlable.Illegal immigration is almost negligable.
The media has been captured for a few years now, and is totally biased,
Not all of it, avoid the BBC,Sky and Channel 4 and you will be OK.
Novichok
21 Dec 2023 #291
Not as high as in the USA.
Ours are mitigated by the fact that we can be armed and kill the intruders. I am sure the stats would prove me right.
Many states treat our homes as castles. Add to it the "stand your ground" rule and we, the homeowners, have the upper hand in this contest.
Vincent
21 Dec 2023 #292
Not as high as in the USA.
The USA has a lot more people than the UK 350,00000.
Not all of it, avoid the BBC,Sky and Channel 4 and you will be OK.
You can add ITV to that list, all have gone woke.
Miloslaw
21 Dec 2023 #293
You can add ITV to that list, all have gone woke.
They have, but ITV is not as bad as the others.
Watch out Vincent, Pawian will be calling you a "Rightist" soon......... if he can understand our conversation....
Novichok
21 Dec 2023 #294
UK burglary statistics show that in the year ended March 2022, there were 192,060 police recorded home burglaries across England and Wales, equating to 526 home burglaries per day, and a house being burgled every 164 seconds. These shocking statistics bring home the importance of taking steps to secure your home and your valuables against this type of crime.
For the period 2021/2022, the London Metropolitan area suffered the most home burglaries, with 40,309 reported to the police, translating as 110 burglaries per day, or one house being burgled every 13 minutes.
These figures are cause for concern enough. But when you start to break things down, the statistics become even more worrying. The Office for National Statistics produced a summary of the long-term trends in burglary, showing the following:
70% of burglaries involve the offender entering the property through an unlocked door, with almost 60% targeting the front door. Only 30% involve entry through a window.
More than 50% of domestic burglaries happened when someone was at home.
In the US, that would be the last burglary in the a-hole's life.
Miloslaw
21 Dec 2023 #295
For the period 2021/2022, the London Metropolitan area suffered the most home burglaries, with 40,309 reported to the police
For a city with a population of 9 million, that seems pretty low to me.
70% of burglaries involve the offender entering the property through an unlocked door,
Yet more proof that Brits feel safer than Americans and don't need to lock their doors or need guns.
In the US, that would be the last burglary in the a-hole's life.
Ya, Ya,Ya.......guns are the answer?America has proved that they are not.
Novichok
22 Dec 2023 #296
Yet more proof that Brits feel safer than Americans and don't need to lock their doors or need guns.
Only morons don't lock. Crime stats have nothing to do with it because there is no upside to not locking. Only downside...
Joker
22 Dec 2023 #297
So he isn`t lying,
So youre speaking out both sides of your mouth again, got it!
Watch out Vincent, Pawian will be calling you a "Rightist" soon..
Its like a badge of honor coming that troll.
Torq
22 Dec 2023 #298
what happened to ATP?
Neither Joker nor Pawian are right.
The new EU regulations that were introduced some time ago where not about freedom of speech but about personal data protection (RODO in Poland). It would require implementing certain changes that would cost time and money and we came to the conclusion that at the end of the day it wasn't worth it. Of course, we could have ignored it, like a lot of boards do but it might potentially have exposed us to legal action and I wasn't willing to take that risk. A lot of people go around the new regulations by hosting their boards outside of EU but ATP was hosted in Poland and moving it seemed like a hassle at the time.
Besides, there was one more thing that unnerved me - we had a guy who posted some accusations against one of the then Polish vice-ministers. I did what would be done on PF - ignored the nonsense and left it where it was. It turned out, in a "nice" letter that I got from prokuratura, that the guy was using classified information in his posts. Of course, I deleted all the sh*t he posted but still I was asked to disclose any personal data that I had about the poster, which I didn't (because I had none, apart from some fake email address and his IP number). As I said, all this could have been avoided if I hosted the board on Cayman Islands or something like that but I just didn't think that any of it would happen to us.
It is also not true that ATP died because of the lack of interest - I already explained my point of view on Internet boards with the parish analogy. ATP had a bunch of old guard regulars and a new poster every now and then and we were quite happy with our little online bunch. If it wasn't for the new RODO regulations and the whole story with libelous and classified information we would still run the board.
A confluence of unfortunate events one might say. Nothing more about it.
Novichok
22 Dec 2023 #299
Hey, Torq, cut the crap and answer directly. Can you post this:
Muslim migrants are the world's worst human scum and they should never be allowed to immigrate to ...(fill in your Euro country).
Europe should be kept as white as humanly possible.
...on any forum in Western Europe or in Poland under your true name and not be charged criminally?
It's a yes or no. Essays later.
Torq
22 Dec 2023 #300
Hey, Torq, cut the crap (...) It's a yes or no. Essays later.
F*ck off.
I do hope my answer is satisfying, at least in terms of its overall length and simplicity.