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IF EU let refugees to Europe



Billy9999
23 Oct 2015  #811

Europe doesn't need 7th century extremist fascists invading just to cope with its ageing demographic profile. It should look to Japan, a country of 120million projected to reduce to 40million as the baby boomers die off. Yes there will be pain but the resultant country will be beautiful and with no ethnicity problems.

I dread to think of how we will cope with hordes of western-hating extremists overuning borders and trying to inflict their extreme form of Islam upon us.

Polonius3
23 Oct 2015  #812

western-hating extremists

I heard recently that Australia, a democratic country after all, does not pamper illegal aliens trying to flock to their shores. Their coast guard has been known to fire upon boats carrying economic refugees from poor Asian countries, and that has served as a deterrent discouragiong imitators. Anyone know whether that is true?

nothanks
23 Oct 2015  #813

Germany to push for compulsory EU quotas to tackle refugee crisis

"Merkel is said to want hundreds of thousands of refugees brought directly from Middle East to control numbers and avoid perilous journeys"

theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/23/refugee-crisis-germany-push-compulsory-eu-quotas

Whoa German returning to the Quotas play

TheOther
23 Oct 2015  #814

I heard recently that Australia, a democratic country after all, does not pamper illegal aliens trying to flock to their shores.

They lock up refugees on Manus Island.

hrlc.org.au/un-finds-australias-treatment-of-asylum-seekers-violates-the-convention-against-torture/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sovereign_Borders

Crow
23 Oct 2015  #815

and so, i see that brotherly Poles realize what problem is EU. This thread more then anything proves it.

Aleluia

Billy9999
23 Oct 2015  #816

Merkel will take every Muslim migrant currently in Europe AND also start taking them directly from middle East. Germany will be finished. Then they will be released into central Europe. So it begins...

InPolska
23 Oct 2015  #817

Merkel may not last long as most Germans are against her.

Crow
23 Oct 2015  #818

At one moment ultra-right Germans would take over the government of Germany. Similar thing would happen in Britain and France. That would push newcomers out of Germany (western Europe in general) and they would settle primarily in Poland and other Slavic Central and South-East European countries. It would be ultimate defeat of Slavs (not only Slavs). Their economies would collapse and parallel with it, due to the processes of assimilation within EU and mixing with newcomers to Europe, Slavs would lose any sense of their belonging to Slavic civilization. They would finally surrender and turn to Germanics.

That`s that sinister plan. Plan that is already in motion. That is what Duda realize and that`s why he mentioned Intermarium exactly at this moment. Poland is in desperate situation.

As pressure of EU becoming irresistible Poland should strengthen ties with other Slavs as soon as possible. Primarily with Czechs, Slovaks and Serbs. Plus further development of Visegrad Group. Hard times are coming.

Brace yourself Sarmats!

mafketis
24 Oct 2015  #819

"Merkel is said to want hundreds of thousands of refugees brought directly from Middle East

This is purely insane. There is no ecnomic or moral justification for it. If Merkel isn't removed from power soon she will cripple Europe for decades to come (and that's the more optimistic option).

Billy9999
24 Oct 2015  #820

Germany is Europe's Trojan horse.

And still they come. This lot will tear down the fences of Europe and impose their 7th century "values" on us all thanks to Merkel.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3286618/UN-raises-concerns-abuse-women-child-migrants.html

This is what's coming....

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3287510/Refugee-children-resorting-survival-sex-pay-people-smugglers-claims-record-56-000-migrants-land-Greece-just-six-days.html

johnny reb
24 Oct 2015  #821

This lot will tear down the fences of Europe and impose their 7th century "values" on us all

When you have only been allowed to read one book since the 7th century that's all you know. It's called brainwashing.
Since the 7th century they have been constantly at war with themselves or others. That's all they know is hate.
These people have never read a newspaper because they don't care.
They have never been allowed to be exposed to anything except the Koran.
These people are the most dedicated to their goal on the face of this earth.
And yes that is their goal, to convert the infidel's of the world into Islam or die.
The next thing that will happen in Europe is these Muslim invaders will start setting up their own turf with all Muslim communities
so they can organize for their final take over.
And the silly part is that the E.U. is not only inviting it, they are actually paying to give away their culture.

Billy9999
24 Oct 2015  #822

whitegenocideproject.com/mass-immigration-merkel-booed-by-germans-praised-by-obama/

Says it all!

Polonius3
25 Oct 2015  #823

paying to give away their culture

That is the dangerous extremism of the PC dicatatorship. Everything that once existed was bad, so its antithesis should now be promoted -- seems to be their MO. Colonialist whites committed abuses and crimes so now non-whites should be favoured and allowed to run rampant. Most people went to church so now religion has be undermiend, marginalised and preferabaly eliminated. Heterosexuality was the unquesitoned norm, so now the homosexual alternative must be nomativised and promoted. But life is not that simple and simplistic, tit-for-tat solutions can only backfire and cause greater harm than the problems they were meant to solve.

Polson
25 Oct 2015  #824

This lot will tear down the fences of Europe and impose their 7th century "values" on us all thanks to Merkel.

These people have never read a newspaper because they don't care.
They have never been allowed to be exposed to anything except the Koran.
These people are the most dedicated to their goal on the face of this earth.
And yes that is their goal, to convert the infidel's of the world into Islam or die.

You two are showing us your utter ignorance of human beings. You are clearly mixing islamists with muslims. Most muslims really don't care about converting the 'infidels'. This is just a fantasy. Most people just want to be safe and live decently. These are the basic needs, regardless of your (religious) beliefs.

The main problem with all these migrants is that they may not integrate and end up in one of those modern ghettos (they may actually end up in a ghetto from the start and thus have little chance to integrate). These ones may actually turn bad. But it's more a matter of 'environment' than culture and/or religion.

But saying that all migrants are (potential) terrorists is stupid.

Colonialist whites committed abuses and crimes so now non-whites should be favoured and allowed to run rampant.

Or it's just that migrants are a cheap labour force who'd do anything you want. All the silly talk about how bad we (Whites) have been might just be an excuse to make us accept these migrant waves.

johnny reb
25 Oct 2015  #825

You two are showing us your utter ignorance of human beings.

Then why don't you march your butt right down to one of the hospitals in Munich and volunteer some time.
You will witness first hand what these animals are all about Champ.

Most muslims really don't care about converting the 'infidels'.

Now you are showing your ignorance.
At the beginning of this thread all the do gooders could not wait to welcome them and as the invasion progressed and the horror
stories started pouring in all of a sudden the do gooders pity party went silent,
Where are all these people who were paid to go welcome them at the train stations (so the media could spin the story with pictures how everyone was in support with welcome signs).............where are these people now ?

As anti rallies were happening all over Europe the do gooders here on the PF denied and minimized them.
Now that these horror stories are being confirmed, now these rallies can no longer be denied, now that the police and hospitals are be overwhelmed with things totally out of control, now that refugee camps are being burned, now that it is happening I can only say,

"We told you so".
With that said Champ, you keep right on preaching how ignorant we are.
And it is only going to get worse, but what do we know.
Europe developed by surviving famine, wars, communism, etc. and build successful civilized countries with hard work and sacrifice.
Now why can't these leeches do the same in their countries and not expect handouts that exceed the Europeans who have worked for them ?

Why can't they develop their own country ? Have you ever wondered why they live in the dark ages ?
Because all they know is the Koran and hate that they have practiced since the 7th century.
They are uneducated, uncivilized, demand what is not theirs and want a free ride at the expense of others.
I think you should invite a couple of these families into your home and care for them Polson and find out just how ignorant you are.

I wouldn't suggest you leave your wife and daughter with them alone however.
Let us know how it works out for you.

BBman
25 Oct 2015  #826

UKIP, Front Nationale, Schweizerische Volkspartei, AfD, Freiheitliche Partei Österreichs, Partij voor de Vrijheid ... NSDAP ...

These organizations would protect europeans and keep the muslims out.

I dread to think of how we will cope with hordes of western-hating extremists overuning borders and trying to inflict their extreme form of Islam upon us.

Especially when we get old and cannot defend ourselves. At least right now if one of these bearded baboons gets violent with you (and violent they shall get as it is in their nature), you can still clock him in his ugly face. Yes, you will be charged with assault and a hate crime, but at least you'll go to prison with a smile on your face instead of the hospital to get stitches.

mafketis
25 Oct 2015  #827

Most muslims really don't care about converting the 'infidels'

True enough. But the majority won't stand up to the radicals either. There are lots of mainstream Christians who publicly shame/ridicule the extremist weirdos. There don't seem to be mainstream Muslims who publicly shame and ridicule their weirdos (especially in front of non-muslims), they just ignore them which ultimately makes them more powerful.

InPolska
25 Oct 2015  #828

True, both Polson and Maf! Yes, Polson, most of Muslims living in Western countries are not radical (I know quite a few of them who have become .... atheist ;)). Yes, Maf, those (the huge majoritiy) who are integrated and democratic don't stand much against the islamists. In France there are some imams, including and above all one from Aulnay (whose name I never remember) who is very active, not only against radicalism but also to favor interreligious social and cultural integration but unfortunately there are not many of them doing the same as he does...

Back to Poland as this POLISH forum tend to turn into an anti-Muslim forum, I have just heard on Euronews that PiS made their campaign mainly (?) on the migrant issue.... It is sure that the migrant issue can only hurt PO..... Well, we'll get the results at 9 tonight.

Polsyr
25 Oct 2015  #829

There don't seem to be mainstream Muslims who publicly shame and ridicule their weirdos

Not true. They do plenty. But mostly in Arabic which might explain why you aren't aware.

InPolska
25 Oct 2015  #830

@Polsyr: Maf most probably mean in Western countries. Yes, it's true that in Western Europe, integrated and democratic (the most numerous) Muslims are not very active against radicals.

Billy9999
25 Oct 2015  #831

Odd isn't it; that Saudi Arabia is paying for the building of 200 new mosques ... In Germany!

Yet are taking NO migrants themselves (despite being the same religion and culture).

InPolska
25 Oct 2015  #832

@Billy: Merkel has invited everybody because German economy shall need some 6 million new workers by 2030 (Germans don't have kids) so why Saudi Arabia and others should bother???? ;). Saudis are not stupid, they let Merkel manage ;)

Polsyr
25 Oct 2015  #833

in Western Europe, integrated and democratic (the most numerous) Muslims are not very active against radicals.

They are incredibly active, just because the media doesn't highlight such activities it doesn't mean that they don't exist.

Believe it or not, there is a serious anti-radicalization organization unit within the Muslim community right here in Warsaw and they extend their cooperation to state security agencies as well, both in terms of giving them info about about potential radicals and in terms of dealing with people that can be potentially radicalized. Again, just because Western media won't talk about it, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

Odd isn't it; that Saudi Arabia is paying for the building of 200 new mosques ... In Germany!

Yet are taking NO migrants themselves (despite being the same religion and culture).

It is odd because they are wealthy and capable.

But stating same religion and culture is very wrong. Syrian culture and Saudi culture have NOTHING to do with each other besides some common lingual grounds. And the Syrian version of Islam is far disconnected from the Saudi version. Syria has been a secular state since 1916.

Billy9999
25 Oct 2015  #834

Have a read of "the Islamic state of Dewsbury".

30 years ago the first Muslim moved into Dewsbury, a normal, respectable English town.

Now it is a no-go area for whites (who have been aggressively driven out).

amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B006NKI1L6?ie=UTF8&redirectFromSS=1&pc_redir=T1&noEncodingTag=1&fp=1

That's the reason why we don't need Muslims in western society.

jon357
25 Oct 2015  #835

Now it is a no-go area for whites (who have been aggressively driven out)

As a regular visitor to that town, I can confirm that your assertion is untrue.

InPolska
25 Oct 2015  #836

@Billy: what is YOUR own experience? None whatsoever since you have to rely on some random book written by a fascist. You know, best to rely on one's personal experience rather than buying any sh....t found on the net or seen on tv ;)

mafketis
25 Oct 2015  #837

They do plenty. But mostly in Arabic

Which doesn't much help in western Europe.... Islam (in practice) is largely about group loyalties and few muslims want to side with non-muslims against another muslim in public. But moderate muslims need to publicly take on clowns like, for example, Anjem Choudary (some do now, but more are needed).

there is a serious anti-radicalization organization unit within the Muslim community right here in Warsaw

Excellent news!

Billy9999
25 Oct 2015  #838

Did you read the book? Its not fiction.

Also....
gatestoneinstitute.org/6721/muslim-invasion-europe
Inpolska

My experience is that I have been abused by gangs of Muslim youths in London, Birmingham and Manchester just for being white and in the wrong area (and I'm not Jewish or gay). Its getting widespread. I wouldn't wish the UK experience on Poland.

"A wise man learns from the mistakes of others...."

InPolska
25 Oct 2015  #839

@Billy: your reference is a fascist nest. I'm sorry if you have been physically attacked but please don't judge a whole population through a handful of individuals! Yes, some are radicalized and most dangerous and they need to be dealt with by police and justice but most are fully integrated and respectful of Western democracy.

Polsyr
25 Oct 2015  #840

But moderate muslims need to publicly take on clowns

I am with you on this 100%

Now it is a no-go area for whites (who have been aggressively driven out).

1. Not true. You are confusing evidence with propaganda.
2. Muslim and white are not mutually exclusive. Islam is a set of religions, not a color. White is a color, not a set of religions.


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