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IF EU let refugees to Europe



Avalon
25 Oct 2015  #871

You know exactly what I am talking about. Christians die rather than convert by denouncing Christ. A Muslim can lie to protect himself or further the cause of Islam.

Polsyr
25 Oct 2015  #872

A Muslim can lie to protect himself or further the cause of Islam.

Not aware of such specifically, but the comparison presumes who lies and who doesn't and that can never be true.
P.S. Not a Muslim, but grew up with them.

Avalon
25 Oct 2015  #873

Suggest you read the Quaran. The faithful must live and die by this book There are "No" other books.

Polsyr
25 Oct 2015  #874

Suggest you read the Quaran

I have read that plus every other Abrahamic holy book. In their original languages (Arabic/Aramaic/Hebrew/Syriac). Have you read it?
I think we are venturing off topic. Would be more than happy to continue in random or another thread if you want.

Avalon
25 Oct 2015  #875

I think we are venturing off topic.

I agree, the only book that I and others might need is "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. I have a feeling we may need it.

Polson
25 Oct 2015  #876

You will witness first hand what these animals are all about Champ.

These animals. So each one of the 500,000* migrants that arrived in Europe are animals, that's what you're saying, right?
*I don't know about the official numbers. Who does anyway?

I think you should invite a couple of these families into your home and care for them Polson and find out just how ignorant you are.

It seems you got me wrong. You wrote all this paragraph for nothing. I never said I was one of those 'do gooders' you mentioned. I disagreed with Germany and Merkel's moves from the beginning. I've seen all the pro-migrant propaganda on our TV and in our newspapers. I'm just criticizing you're simplistic (inhumane) vision of the situation. The good Europeans vs the animals.

Your logic: Some migrants are doing a huge mess ---> All migrants are "animals" ---> All Arabs/Muslims are retarded.
Is that the 'liberal logic' we've discussed in the other thread, Johnny? Cuz it doesn't seem so bright to me.

But the majority won't stand up to the radicals either.

Maybe we should ask them directly. But I see what you mean. I would explain this by the lack of 'solidarity' inside the Muslim community, for there is probably no community per se. There are just Muslims. Another reason would be that they may be scared of retaliation (for being 'traitors').

A counterexample though: last January, after the Paris attack, a march was held in the memory of the victims and in protest of terrorism. Apparently, many Muslims joined in.

mafketis
25 Oct 2015  #877

Another reason would be that they may be scared of retaliation (for being 'traitors').

Appearances and group loyalty count for a lot in all the muslim majority societies I know anything about. When outnumbered, the "muslims must stick together" ethos seems to be pretty strong. Of course when they're a majority other tensions come to the fore....

Crow
26 Oct 2015  #878

Serbia refused to accept decision of Brussels to accommodate 50.000 refugees. Thanks but, no thanks for EU. EU is abomination.

Kennyboy
26 Oct 2015  #879

Well said Crow, Merkel invited them to the party so I guess the ''guests'' are all hers.

TheOther
26 Oct 2015  #880

Merkel invited them to the party so I guess the ''guests'' are all hers.

You guys always forget that large numbers of refugees kept arriving in Greece and Italy long before Merkel stepped in. Until she did, Europe had done nothing to help. If the Germans wouldn't have opened their borders, the Italians and Greeks would be in the same deep sh*it Germany is now in. Besides: if Germany (and with it the EU) fails, the rest of the continent will be screwed as well. Don't be so naive to believe that Poland and all the other countries won't be going down with them.

Polonius3
26 Oct 2015  #881

Merkel invited them to the party

I can't figure what makes her tick. Maybe after she invited 800,000 this year alone she was showered with praise and congrats from liberal-leftist sources being so humane that it went to her head.

Crow
26 Oct 2015  #882

With every new day i more and more thank God for i am Slavic. Germanic and Anglo schemes are too much for me. Everything is false in them, their racism and their multiculturalism. One never knows with them. Real values even don`t exist there. As much as they are greed, they are suicidal.

i say, OK, its fine with me. Go f*** yourself if you want but, Slavs and all who share their values are out of it. Hospitality is good but, with measure. Values of society and fundaments of civilizations can`t be sacrifice for anything. Instead, catastrophe in Syria had to be prevented there where it started and even if disaster happened, help should be sent there and not that people flee wherever they want.

Its truly good that Polish Duda announced plans for Intermarium. That gave hope. Last hope and last shelter for children of people.

MuslimsKill
26 Oct 2015  #883

wondering why the truth about the 1400 children raped by muslim imigrants
gets deleted... you can read about it on wikipedia
Deleted because the whole content was just a copy/paste from internet and it's not allowed - you can quote up to 100 words from one source

this is what muslim imigrants do, and the massmedia doesnt talk about it because then most europeans would stop welcoming the arabian soldiers and the muslim criminals into Europe:

Widespread organised child sexual abuse took place in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England, between 1997 and 2013. Local investigations into the abuse began in 1999, although some reports were never finalised or made public by the authorities.[1] In 2010, five men of Pakistani heritage were found guilty of a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve.[2] A subsequent investigation by The Times reported that the child sex exploitation was much more widespread, and the Home Affairs Select Committee criticised the South Yorkshire Police force and Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council for their handling of the abuse.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

TheOther
26 Oct 2015  #884

I can't figure what makes her tick.

It seems that nobody can, Polonius. I still have a lot of friends in Germany, and no matter whom I ask, they are all against letting more refugees into the country. The German politicians and media are not telling the truth at the moment and belittle the problems that lie ahead. 1.5 million refugees per year for the next 5 years! Once they are accepted as asylum seekers they can bring in their large families. You do the math. In the end we are not talking about - say - seven million people, we are talking at least ten times as many. Neither Europe nor Germany can shoulder that.

Crow
26 Oct 2015  #885

Let me tell it in Serbian, from time when rumors among my people announced whenever Poles arrived to help against Ottoman Turks: Poljska! Zemlja Ledjana! Severnjaci! (Poland! Land of the people from the icy land! Northerners!)

mafketis
26 Oct 2015  #886

I can't figure what makes her tick.

There are rumors that the US has been pressuring her for a long time to do something like this (for some reason). It does make the wiretapping of her by the US make sense (digging up dirt to use as blackmail....)

Crow
26 Oct 2015  #887

EU (ie western Europe) more and more isolate itself from rest of the world and from its own population. There are signals that USA also gave up from EU. Sure, USA policy can`t be take as a rule. USa is k**** for itself.

Billy9999
26 Oct 2015  #888

wondering why the truth about the 1400 children raped by muslim imigrants gets deleted

We all know why, because it fits the plan for genocide/replacement of the indigenous Europeans.

Things have hit crisis point in nearly all UK cities and towns and yet we're still "racists and bigots" if we mention or remark upon it. There are many, many more arab-looking people everywhere (far more than we are being told). Job applications now have to be anonymous to protect anyone having an ethnic sounding name (well who wants a potential jihadist on their books)... we're not allowed to ask for white taxi drivers any more. They are not allowed to mention peppa the pig in primary schools and Christmas nativity plays are almost extinct in case the "offend" the Muslims.

CCTV footage of white women being stalked and raped in city centres is deliberately released too late to catch the perpetrators and is often edited so as to be useless.

In Germany its even worse. Anyone suspected of speaking out or being "racist" faces reprisals including having their employment terminated and being blacklisted for life.

This is the future Merkel and her masters have mapped out for the whole of Europe. The whole European project is aimed at this. It is truly frightening.

jon357
26 Oct 2015  #889

That post is so packed with malicious lies that it simply isn't worth picking through them one by one.

And it has nothing to do with the situation in Poland either.

UK cities are fine, but from some clown who pretends Dewsbury is a no-go area (I must remember to have a chortle at that one next time I'm in the pub there) what can one expect...

Billy9999
26 Oct 2015  #890

John357.... The words head and sand come to mind.

You obviously are in the UK quite a lot. Did you see the last crime watch? Where the girl in Liverpool was stalked, dragged off into parkland and viciously raped at 6.30 am by a man of African/middle east appearance. They didn't release the CCTV footage until months later.

Never mind, you just carry on with your blinkered left wing agenda :)

jon357
26 Oct 2015  #891

Don't be silly. Crime is crime and no conspiracy about the police releasing CCTV footage.

Amazing that you've appeared from nowhere, with seemingly no connection to Poland and done nothing except lamely young to spread lies about immigration...

Who cares what colour skin someone has anyway.

Billy9999
26 Oct 2015  #892

There are over 650,000 Polish in UK. Half my town is Polish. Many of my friends are Polish. We have similar culture, humour. And Poles are beautiful people.

That's my connection, and that's why I care.

All of my points are valid and can be substantiated just google and educate yourself (or don't you want to, for some reason?)

Sparks11
26 Oct 2015  #893

In Germay there DOES seem to be a conspiracy about releasing footage as the police have been specifically told to play down the violence in the refugee centers.

Billy9999
26 Oct 2015  #894

This happened in July but CCTV deliberately not circulated til October, so the perpetrator had 3 months to get away (what use is that?).

More worrying, if it had happened in Germany no-one would've been told about it. The great European farce must over ride, national identities and nationhoods must be destroyed.

bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/5g39G9fWP1xP099q2D8ffCT/toxteth-rape

mafketis
27 Oct 2015  #895

UK cities are fine,

Whews, so mostly muslim gangs are _not_ systematically sexually exploiting vulnerable young (mostly non-muslim) girls in places like Rotherham. What a relief!

Glad to hear it!

jon357
27 Oct 2015  #896

Largely no - the whole issue has been whipped up and no they are not 'Muslim gangs', the well-publicised issues involve people of different religious heritages.

Chemikiem
27 Oct 2015  #897

This happened in July but CCTV deliberately not circulated til October, so the perpetrator had 3 months to get away (what use is that?).

If the only reason you have joined this forum is to spread hate against non- whites/muslims etc, you could at least try to be truthful Billy, because CCTV footage was released of the incident, in the same month it occurred:-

itv.com/news/granada/update/2015-07-29/cctv-appeal-following-rape-in-toxteth

All of my points are valid and can be substantiated just google and educate yourself (or don't you want to, for some reason?)

You were saying Billy?

mafketis
27 Oct 2015  #898

the well-publicised issues involve people of different religious heritages.

Got any percentages?

Levi
27 Oct 2015  #899

Largely no - the whole issue has been whipped up and no they are not 'Muslim gangs', the well-publicised issues involve people of different religious heritages.

Roterham child exploitation ring were commited by a gang of Pakistanis.

Oxford child exploitation ring were commited by a gang of Pakistanis.

The Derby child sex gang members (Said Zakaria, Abdirashid Abdulahi, Mohamed Dahir, Liban Abdi, Jusef Abdirizak, Mohamed Jumale, Abdulahi Aden, Arafat Ahmed Osman and Idleh Osman) were all Somalis.

The Telford child sex gang were 7 Pakistani men.

The Peterborough sex abuse case by Pakistanis, Roma and a Slovak (Oh, Look!!! Finally one! hahaha)

The Banbury sex gang was leaded by Mohamed Saleh and Said Saleh.

And the Aylesbury sex gang was leaded by an indian called Mohammed Imran.

Those are ALL mass rape cases that happened in the last 4 years in UK. All were totally or partially commited by who???

So Jon, get your facts straight.

PS: Oh, i forgot about Rochdale... But i am too tired to write the same. So you can see where the abuse offenders where from at this link:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_sex_trafficking_gang

jon357
27 Oct 2015  #900

Maybe you ought to follow the news more carefully - those prosecuted were from more than one religious background, however much that may conflict with your hatred for Muslims.

Nor does this have the slightest relevance to the current humanitarian crisis.


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