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IF EU let refugees to Europe



Billy9999
30 Oct 2015  #991

Thanks for posting this.

Some of the comments on the daily mail are a good read (not the articles, the comments) :)

TheOther
30 Oct 2015  #992

140,000 of them have "tolerated" status

So the "deportation" was a smoke screen again. As expected.

Some of the comments on the daily mail are a good read

Yeah, the British tabloids and their readers are famous for that.

Billy9999
30 Oct 2015  #993

Like this for example. Some cracking readers comments -

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3249667/Germany-state-SIEGE-Merkel-cheered-opened-floodgates-migrants-gangs-men-roaming-streets-young-German-women-told-cover-mood-s-changing.html

jon357
30 Oct 2015  #994

Some cracking readers comments

It's the first time I've heard Daily Mail readers' online comments described as "cracking". Half of them are from people who say they supported UKIP and the other half are from people who would say that if only they could spell it.

TheOther
30 Oct 2015  #995

It's the first time I've heard Daily Mail readers' online comments described as "cracking".

Don't make the mistake to write them off as right-wing simpletons. Even though the comments are oftentimes extreme, they give a good indication of what's going in people's heads. It's dangerous to underestimate certain trends and developments in society.

mafketis
30 Oct 2015  #996

What I've noticed on this issue. Although the media is incredibly biased and mostly doing it's darndest to make this sound like a great thing and create sympathy for the migrants.... people aren't buying it.

Anytime that comments are allowed the majority is asking uncomfortable questions about practical considerations like housing and work (since most appear to be completely unqualified) and how and when the tap can be turned off.

nothanks
30 Oct 2015  #997

So the "deportation" was a smoke screen again. As expected

I think German Law is suited for a specific society type or quality. German authorities need to be honest and realize or more precisely admit they are dealing with different cultural norms.

German refugee laws combined with their overall welfare system is a disaster in the Age of Globalization. They need to be updated.

Billy9999
30 Oct 2015  #998

Easy to sneer at the voting classes but their comments indicates a healthy disrespect to totalitarian leaders who make decisions without due consultation.

Merkel, Blair, Junker, Cameron. They all get in by making false promises and lies and then betraying their own people by following other agendas.

These leaders need to be held to account and the daily mail is to be commended for at least publishing their readers comments.

jon357
30 Oct 2015  #999

the daily mail is to be commended for at least publishing their readers comments.

Most newspapers do that - unfortunately the Daily Mail's are frequently foul, particularly where ethnicity is concerned. I doubt most of their readers vote anyway.

They do occasionally publish good articles, however the sheer amount of yellow journalism cancels it out.

And the Daily Mail readers' responses in their comments section to the humanitarian crisis is on a par with the usual hate-filled things they say, so not really indicative of anything except the fear of the unfamiliar long associated with DM readers.

Billy9999
30 Oct 2015  #1000

.Most newspapers do that - unfortunately the Daily Mail's are frequently foul, particularly where ethnicity is concerned. I doubt most of their readers vote anyway.

They do occasionally publish good articles, however the sheer amount of yellow journalism cancels it out.

And the Daily Mail readers' responses in their comments section to the humanitarian crisis is on a par with the usual hate-filled things they say, so not really indicative of anything except the fear of the unfamiliar long associated with DM readers.

Its called democracy and free speech Jon. These people are letting their feelings known in a peaceful way (is not roiting in the streets over "cartoons" and a range of other things that "offend" them.. and not anarchists or lunatics

jon357
30 Oct 2015  #1001

democracy and free speech

Neither of those especially cherished by the editorial line of the DM and neither anything to do with mob rule or the lowest common denominator. What's the point of having an intellectual and political elite at all if we chose to decide public policy in response to the humanitarian crisis by knocking on Alf Garnett's door. The people who leave online comments in the Daily Mail - though it may be free (or rather unrestrained) speech, democracy it is emphatically not) would withhold even the alien corn from the refugees.

Like asking your char lady's opinion before you buy art.

Billy9999
30 Oct 2015  #1002

I think you got tied-up in BS there Jon :) .... say again?

jon357
30 Oct 2015  #1003

Perhaps your reading skills are better suited to the anti-immigration squawking of the Daily Mail or other tabloids' online comment page.

Billy9999
30 Oct 2015  #1004

Leftie "intellectual snobbery" plus "my opinion matters the most" come to mind.

That's a clearer message though, so well done there ("I'm sorry its been such a long letter, I didn't have time to write a short one")

jaan
30 Oct 2015  #1005

i am shocked and pray for all refugees

mafketis
30 Oct 2015  #1006

Almost none of those arriving in Europe now are refugees in any real sense.

Billy9999
30 Oct 2015  #1007

Sweden and Germany are being tested to the limit by their hapless "leaders" -

rt.com/news/320158-sweden-refugees-collapse-catastrophe/]

jon357
31 Oct 2015  #1008

Leftie "intellectual snobbery" plus "my opinion matters the most" come to mind.

Perhaps you'd prefer government by the less educated.

Certainly there seems to be a correlation between IQ and views on immigration.

nothanks
31 Oct 2015  #1009

German media being called out

"In a recent German survey, 44 percent of respondents said they partially, or wholly believe the media regularly lies to the people, as the Pegida movement asserts. Media experts examine whether that's true."

dw.com/en/lying-press-germanys-misleading-media/a-18816438

Crow
31 Oct 2015  #1010

Almost none of those arriving in Europe now are refugees in any real sense.

i begins to think of those people as of settlers, not as of refuges. Something went wrong

44 percent of respondents said they partially, or wholly believe the media regularly lies to the people

i telling about media lies on this forum for years already. You people in EU are all totally deluded. Pardon to very few exemptions.

mafketis
31 Oct 2015  #1011

Something went wrong

I have the horrible feeling that for EU technocrats and/or elite's it's going exactly to plan....

Avalon
31 Oct 2015  #1012

Certainly there seems to be a correlation between IQ and views on immigration.

How would you know?

Crow
31 Oct 2015  #1013

I have the horrible feeling that for EU technocrats and/or elite's it's going exactly to plan....

i couldn`t tell it better

mafketis
31 Oct 2015  #1014

What's the point of having an intellectual and political elite at all if we chose to decide public policy in response to the humanitarian crisis by knocking on Alf Garnett's door.

What's the point of having an elite if they're so terrified of being called bigots that they refuse to put the interests of citizens first? Job number one of any government is too protect the interests of citizens and any charity needs to not interfere with that. No western European government seems to pass this simple test of competency.

Billy9999
31 Oct 2015  #1015

And control of secure borders and protection against invaders

mafketis
31 Oct 2015  #1016

That's part of job number one. Western European governments are openly telling their populations to shut up and cough up money for their mad social engineering plans. People in the East have memories of tyranny that are fresh enough to see through the sham.

nothanks
1 Nov 2015  #1017

Exactly. What do Westeners know about suffering? Compare our experience in WW2 with France's. Both of us were defeated in the same amount of time.

The Final Whites on Planet Earth will be in the East. Just like White Civilization began. Easteners are hardened with high suffering pain threshold. Imagine Americans surviving 1 month without internet, petroleum or fast food.

Polsyr
5 Nov 2015  #1018

I visited several refugee processing centers together with colleagues from charity. Of course every big city has rundown areas!
Stupid neonazis can go fick themselves.
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Billy9999
5 Nov 2015  #1019

" Stupid neonazis can go fick themselves."

What an astute, convincing argument (not)... exactly what we have learned to expect from the militant left.

Roger5
5 Nov 2015  #1020

Stormfront is a white-supremacist, neo-nazi website which praised Anders Brevik. Just saying in case anyone forgot or didn't know.


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