IF EU let refugees to Europe

What a horrible night. I was supposed to be in Paris tonight.


Does your sympathy go to all the (Muslim) families that have suffered from US drones bombings as well?
How many civilians have been killed in all American wars in the last decades? We can only give estimates, cuz we've clearly lost count.

American terrorism exists too. But no-one fights it.
Islamic terrorism is particularly successful in unstable areas. If America and Western powers in general want to stop terrorism, they should stop feeding it.
What happened in Paris tonight is an absolute nightmare, but I can't say I'm surprised.

Yes it does Polson.


They are called "collateral damage" by the people who finance these wars for personal gain and they are not all Americans.


Oh it won't be long now before America gets their nose bloodied but good. Our turn is coming soon.


To many elite getting rich off it Polson. It's really the only thing that's keeping the world economy going right now.


It was predicted here on this forum by many of us. The only surprise is that they only killed 140 and not 1400.

Very good.


I'm relieved to see that you don't support that.
'Collateral damage', how can one be so cynical? (this is not addressed to you, Johnny)


I thought you were more a pro-war kind of guy, Johnny. My apologies if I misunderstood you.


Not a risky prediction. It happened already, in France and elsewhere in Europe, so of course the probabilities of another attack were quite high.
And since the French government has been supporting very dubious 'rebels' in Syria (not even mentioning the bombing of Libya), how could we be surprised to see it backfiring now?

Unfortunately, it's always us, civilians, who pay the high price for their mistakes. And they want us to keep voting for them... Such a joke.

It's very late here, I'll try to sleep. Good night, Johnny.

150 Western Europeans murdered and not even 1 Military shot fired!

The Iron Curtain/Cold War will be a blessing. We are now ahead of the curve on social issues

What a mess the world is in !.

How horrible for the innocent victims.

On the one hand, it's pretty clear now that just about every setback ISIS faces in the states formerly known as Syria and Iraq is going to be echoed by terrorist actions somewhere else. The important thing is to not let it stop action against ISIS.

Political Islam is the new communism, a despicable ideology that brings nothing but failure and destruction (and whose apologists and sympathisers have a long list of excuses for backed up by enablers who are worried more about remaining politically above reproach than about the victims).

Most horrible thought is that is USA behind terrorists. No, not just because of simple fact of it but rather because of whole idea of it. What is then intention of USA (and western European) magnates if they are behind ISIS. To destabilize Europe? To weakening Russia, Iran and China? But if so, those powers aren`t naive. At one moment when cost of dealing with ISIS becomes to high they would certainly use more drastic measures such is even use of nuclear weapons. What would then terrorists in respond, having in mind that is USA behind them? start to use nuclear weapons in terrorist acts?

Yes, it does. The West and primarily irresponsible politics od USA are to blame for what is happening right now. I don't blame them for hating the West. Just like I don't blame Palestininians for hating Israelis.


It doesn't matter if the ratio "good" muslims vs "bad" Muslims is 70 to 30, it is still a danger to me and my family and if I can I want to minimize it. My first responsibility is my family than my country, so I may symphatise with "good" Muslims but they aren't my main concern and their main concern should be weeding out radicals from their own society.

You seem to not understand that what happened in Paris didn't have to happen, it is the result of the poc and liberal thinking. When people's lives are at risk leaders shouldn't be afraid to take action, take polish Operation Vistula, now it is apologized for, but it helped and saved many lives.

terminology is very important

Many people say West without thinking deeper what they say. This kind of terminology is dictated by media of western European powers and USA, in order that are exclusively they associated with term `Western world`. Its part of assimilation process (and domination) that they impose on world and especially on eastern Europe.

Poland is Western world, too. Serbia is western world, too. Serbia is located in European region that even gave birth to western world. Then, if we understand that are Slavs in fact Sarmatians, we understand that actually Slavs represent last real European natives, ie- that is Slavic culture original Western culture because only Slavs have direct linguistic and cultural continuity with Sarmatians (Aryans, hyperboreans).

Same is with term Europeans. Western European countries regularly speak of Europeans and others. They insist that is term European connected exclusively to members of EU. It provoked Serbian respond and Serbians already underlining that term `European` goes hand in hand with term `Western world` and that western European countries aren`t in direct continuity with Sarmatians but that Serbians preserved direct continuity (Serbian ethnic name is even form of original Sarmatian name and also there is linguistic and cultural continuity).

See, every action demand reaction. When one fights to preserve one civilization, battle isn`t always just political or militarily. There also must be cultural respond. So, let us be precise with terminology.

Among the 128 dead (+ some 200 in hospitals), I expect ALSO a lot of muslims! Unfortunately YES western politicians are responsible of all this mess (not only in Paris). Didn't he USA make for instance .... Al Kaida???? Opening borders was a huge mistake but of course all "elites" know better. Now, any criminal, crook, terrorist can enter EU as they wish. They can also go and buy weapons abroad, they can go and train in islamic training camps and then we see the result and unfortunately, it is only the beginning (I would like to be wrong).

In tne meantimre, 128 people died, some 200 are in hospitals, hundreds of families are crying and suffering and hundreds of millions of people around the western world fear for their lives. "Thanks" to politicians! Today, they all cry but aren't they responsible????

In France, unfortunately it is not new since it's been happening since the 1950's with bombs thrown by FLN and OAS, with bombs attacks in the mid-1980's (I went through such attacks in the metro) but obviously now, it can happen almost any day. Of course people are under shock and very sad but in a few days, past the emotion, they'll be mad not only at terrorists but also at those who've been ruling the country for 50 or so years. French people, like any other civilized people, are peaceful and don't want military intervention around the world.

My thoughts to the victims and my condoleances!

Seems like Europeans still have no idea what Islam can do to them . . .

As a Persian guy who born and grow up in an Islamic country by force . . . I must warn you all . . . believe me when I say ISLAM IS THE WORST THING CAN HAPPEN TO YOU EVER . . .

1400 years ago, we were the most powerful empire on the planet . . . and look at us what we have now . . . they attacked us . . . killed every man and got married to our women by force . . . they forced everybody to became Muslim . . . we didn't wanted to and we don't want it now either what so ever . . . they changed the entire generation of Iran to a Muslim country and now it's been decades we're trying to get rid of them and we can't . . . you wanna know why? because they can fool people easily . . . they find people who are lost on their way and they fool them by an imaginary heaven . . . you have no Idea what they've don to us during last 1400 years . . . and god knows how much longer they're gonna stay in our country . . .

So, my friends . . . believe me . . . having an Islamic community in your country . . . it's the last thing you want . . . trust me on that . . . yes Muslims are humans as well and they can be good people as well . . . but as long as they're left alone and they don't have any power . . . I'm not a racist but I know the idea behind Islam better than any of you . . . and please stop telling this is not the true Islam or it have nothing to do with Islam . . . of curse it has everything to do with Islam . . . those animals who attacked Paris were people once . . . Islam fooled them to kill Non-Muslims to go to heaven and dance with angels and drink wine . . .

My country was destroyed by them . . . and I don't think we ever can be the Iran we used to be . . . we can't even get rid of this Islamic government . . . they're so animal and they have no heart for anybody when it comes to keeping their power . . .

I'm not Polish but I know some of your history . . . you suffered from others just the same as us . . . you already suffered from WW2 and it took you decades to get back to your feet . . . don't let that happen again . . . ISLAM is the last thing you want near your family . . .

Thanks for the Wake Up Call..

Still, even being a persian, probably the Political Correct British/Turkish Gang of this forum will call you racist.

Even you knowing much more about Islam than them.


Good point. Iran had so much potential...

The genetics of the Iranian Population give birth to the Sarmatians, the
origin of the slavic population. They could build a strong nation.

If it was not for the fanatism....


I am sorry for hear that.


Finally you are waking up to reality InPolska. I am happy to hear that.


And Wahhabism / Salafism is the new Stalinist.

@Komeil: stop your antimuslim propaganda! I can tell you that the French (including FN) make the difference between terrorists and decent "muslim" citizens. I'm sure that among last night's victims, there are a lot of "muslims" (we'll know how many of them a bit later when we see families crying in the media).

The main question, once the dust kicked up by this tragic attack settles, is what can be done about it. Can anything be done to prevent similar attacks in future or is it already too late? The best-known Polish anti-terrorist Jerzy Dziewulski (going back to the PRL era) said on TV yesty that terrorism cannot be stopped by military attacks or by intelligence and counter-intelligence actvities. Whaddya think?

Me too InPolska, this is absolutely terrible :( :( :(

Not many Muslims go to rock concerts or attend football matches!

@Pol: Although I am no expert ;), I heard last night a guy from French Ministry of Foreign Affairs saying exactly the same thing.

Can't argue with that . . . that's true as well . . . I'm not an antimuslim . . . but anti Islam, yes . . . my parents are Muslim too and they believe in Islam so bad and they're not terrorist . . . just ordinary people . . . but this situation can get worst if everyone just sit back and do nothing . . . you should live in Iran and in a Muslim country to understand what I'm talking about my friend . . .

@Billy: wrong! They love football and they do go to matches. There were also victims shot in streets and in restaurants.

PS: what about the muslim victims on January 7? ;) Are they sub-victims for you?

Let me share the view of a grass-roots American: "Another example of the many wonderful contributions given to us by the new left. I don't understand Merkel though. How many more moslems were let into France since the Charlie Hebdo massacre? What are the cowardly moslem-loving French

******** going to do now? Maybe accept even more Syrians and North Africans? European civilization is being destroyed ONLY because the left is tolerated."

There may well be. Terrorists don't make distinctions between groups of people when conducting attacks.


I don't think you can really plan against terrorism. You have to hope that the security services in different countries are on the ball, but ultimately you can't prevent attacks like this, no matter what precautions are in place.

Now I'm waiting to hear from the usual suspects that it's the fault of letting the refugees in, but as I posted on another thread, there are very likely terrorists already in many countries, long before the refugees started arriving.

Typical American, completely failing to realise that immigration was heavily encouraged by the right to provide cheap labour.

Absolutely, Deph! In the 1950's French companies directly recruited workers for France because of course they were expected to work for peanuts and shut up whereas the French don't.... Immigration is a blessing for capitalists. In France, all "bad" labor is done by Africans or immigrants (I have never seen "real" French doing such work). The same re Polish workers in GB, British employers wanted cheap labor

@Chemi: of course, there are but right now we don't know how many. On Jan. 7 there were muslim victims. On Jan.7, there was also a muslim illegal alien from Africa working at the Kosher supermarket who risked his life in order to save several Jewish employees. As a result, he was issued documents, received high décorations not only from France but also from the USA (directly from John Kerry). I don't remember the guy's name (I don't know any African language ;)) but all info can be found on the net

Just in case you missed it first time around (and, after over 1.5 million views YouTube have withdrawn it), here it is again. It's not fiction, its happening now (and very quickly).

And if certain people posting on here think Poland will be immune, think again.

breitbart.com/london/2015/11/11/watch-anti-migrant-video-going-viral-across-europe/

@Billy: if you believe all the BS you find in Youtube, no need to talk with you! In Youtube there is also pro islamist sh@@@t

Lassana Bathily, I remember reading about him. Unfortunately, the haters on here won't think about people like him, they just like to tar all Muslims with the same brush. As far as they are concerned, Muslims = Terrorists :(

@Chem: Yes! In France, people have considered him like a hero. And yes, democrats can make the difference between terrorists and "normal people". Even Le Pen family are able to and do make the difference ;). Since last night, I have French tv on, and NO ONE there accuses "muslims", the ones we accuse are the ... terrorists. I have mingled all my life till I have moved to Poland (Polish husband, otherwise no reason ;)) with muslims, Arabs, and whatever, and I have NEVER met any terrorist, only decent and good citizens...

Exactly. You only have to go back over time to see the same thing over and over again.
In 70's UK, the Irish were all tarred with the same brush because of the IRA, this time it's the turn of the Muslims.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to see that these people are terrorists first and foremost.
The majority of Muslims will be just as outraged as everyone else about what's happened in France.

Maybe the best way to answer the question: what should be done to prevent a repeat of such attacks would be to ask the question: WHAT HAS EUROPE DONE WRONG IN REACTION TO PREVIOUS ATTACKS?

There has been London, Madrid, Denmark, earlier attacks and rampaging rioting in France and terrorist acts elsewhere on the continent. Was the reaction to them sufficient? Did financial or psychological ("politically correct") barriers prevent a more effective reaction?

Good question.

The answer is a big and bold NO.

Political correctness doesn't help anyone.