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IF EU let refugees to Europe



gregy741
15 Nov 2015  #1261

great...Juncker will lead it,i propose peadophile Cohen bendit leading left wing panzer divizions and Smidth right wing infantry(once he gets sober)we also have fon rumpuy and tusk in reserves.zey will crumble

its great to see such leadership when we need em.future is bright.

Levi
15 Nov 2015  #1262

And 2 of the terrorists where refugees...

Polonius3
15 Nov 2015  #1263

historical abnormality

So multi-culti is normal and the goal all nations should strive for? Ethnic and racial mixage to the max? Mongrelise or die!
I've heard in Paris they're starting to add a fourth value to the Gallic trio of
Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité --- Sécurité.

Lyzko
15 Nov 2015  #1264

Asylum seekers should first and foremost learn the native language of the country which they are seeking to move to, in this case German!
But then, that's only my opinion:-))

Billy9999
15 Nov 2015  #1265

Or even better, convert to Christianity and attend citizenship lessons, learn the relevant national anthem and be made to carry ID cards (the latter should be mandatory for ALL citizens and is the reason why the migrants don't stay in Malta, where you need to show an ID card just to get on a bus).

Crow
15 Nov 2015  #1266

strictly on topic, let me show you picture of one other Europe. Past, not so distant

ABBA : I Have A Dream (HQ)

youtube.com/watch?v=r82fyOb8F5w

yes, i had a dream. Few at least. Now, i have another dream

Serbian media rapports that Obama and Putin talked today half an hour about most critical issues

Obama and Putin, today, Turkey

Kennyboy
15 Nov 2015  #1267

Crow, you got it wrong, what Obama is saying to Putin is, pick a card, don't show me, sorry mods it just came into my head and made me chuckle.

Polonius3
15 Nov 2015  #1268

convert to Christianity

At mass this evening the priest called for prayers in the intention of the victims of the Paris attacks as well as for the conversion of their vicitmisers.

Levi
16 Nov 2015  #1269

Tell me why these refugees aren't stopping and making a new life in Turkey, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Armenia, Georgia or even Saudia Arabia.

I Can talk about Saudi Arabia.

The immigrants are not be able to stop here because they are not welcome here. In fact, even the syrians that ALREADY were here before the war are suffering now (I had a syrian acquintance and he got deported after get fired).

Meanwhile the same Saudi Arabia pressure Europe to accept more refugees.

Even average Europeans being much poorer than the average Saudi.

wawa_marek
16 Nov 2015  #1270

Tell me why these refugees aren't stopping and making a new life in Turkey, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Armenia, Georgia or even Saudia Arabia.

Armenia and Georgia among Islamic countries?

much more closer, not only in faith but in language and surely the Religion of Peace would welcome them with open arms

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia#Religion
You need to study universal history more carefully.

johnny reb
16 Nov 2015  #1271

And 2 of the terrorists where refugees...

You can bet the screening process is going start getting much tougher.
Better yet, send them back home if they are not Christians in fear of their lives.
We talked about this in the very beginning when the invasion started.
Polysr told us how they had native Syrian screeners at the border asking questions in regional dialect (like what town they were from in Syria, what was it's focal point, etc.) that only someone from that town would know as a screening measure.

Obviously that didn't work so well.
The people of Europe need to stand up and tell Merkel, "No more, our borders are closed to ALL Muslim countries until further notice."

The State of Alabama stood up and told Obama NO REFUGEES here thank you very much.
Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley announced in a statement Sunday night that he will not allow any Syrian refugee to relocate to his state in the wake of the deadly terror attack in France.

"After full consideration of this weekend's attacks of terror on innocent citizens in Paris, I will oppose any attempt to relocate Syrian refugees to Alabama through the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program. As your Governor, I will not stand complicit to a policy that places the citizens of Alabama in harm's way," Bentley said, in a statement.

That is the kind of leadership that saves lives and says the hell with political correctness and the hell with incompetent leadership.

From the very get go most of us here could see the handwriting on the wall and sure enough.
Now the most of us end our post on this subject with, "It is only going to get worse, much worse."

dany_moussalli
16 Nov 2015  #1272

I Can talk about Saudi Arabia.

The immigrants are not be able to stop here because they are not welcome here. In fact, even the syrians that ALREADY were here before the war are suffering now (I had a syrian acquintance and he got deported after get fired).

I can confirm this, and I have already stated this before, the Syrians are moving to germany and sweden because they know that they will be we treated and that they will have a fair opportunity to start a new decent life, and by starting a decent life i meant studying and working and not living on benefits

While in saudi arabia, UAE, Turkey, Lebanon,Jordan they are used as cheap labor (and in these countries, cheap labor means working illegally with a below minimum wage, in germany living on a minimum wage delivers much higher standards and more decent living), and they are being taking advantage of.. even the poorest might give their daughters away to some old rich saudi in exchange for money.

Some syrians did manage a decent life in these countries, but it's mostly because they found a good job, or because they are rich so they opened businesses or even relocated factories.

Iran, Iraq

Because iraq is in a better situation than Syria ? do you have an idea about life in Iran ?

teraz Polska!
16 Nov 2015  #1273

Alabama, Arkansas, Michigan and Texas refuse "refugees"! Nazis?
In other news French president says it were French killing Franch in Paris. One may wonder why frenchies bombed Syria afterwards? They should have bombed Marseille! LOL

InPolska
16 Nov 2015  #1274

TerazPolska or another 'intellectual"! Get informed! Everything was organized in Syria through Belgium (European center to get weapons as they are smuggled from former Yugoslavia)..... Some had the "French" nationality but these people have worked, been financed and trained by islamists in Syria.

Of course you know better than investigators!

Have some compassion to victims! The WHOLE world does except a couple of rednecks in PF.

teraz Polska!
16 Nov 2015  #1275

Of course you know better than investigators!

I am just repeating what monsieur Hollande said. So you are saying that he is not telling the truth and it's Belgium that needs to be bombed?LOL

InPolska
16 Nov 2015  #1276

@Teraz: Yes, 2 of 3 of them had the "French nationality", + some Belgians + 1 Egyptian + 1 Syrian but so what? The whole thing was organized in Syria by islamists with weapons smuggled into Belgium (more precisely Molenbeek district of Brussels) from former Yugoslavia but of course you know better ... .

Have some decency towards victims!

teraz Polska!
16 Nov 2015  #1277

Yes, 2 of 3 of them had the "French nationality"

So French nationality doesn't equal French? And what you mean by " " ? Not very fair bombing Syria if it were French and Belgians terrorists killing French. Don't you think so?

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Lyzko
16 Nov 2015  #1278

Whilst their nationality "on paper" might well have been French, their congenital spirit and background which informed their heinous actions, most definitely was NOT!! Seemingly disconcerting to sing "Vive la France!" with the Marseilles blaring in the foreground in one breath, then turn to chanting "Allah Akhbar!" in the other.

In such cases, nature rather than nurture, must hold sway:-) Put a jaunty-looking beret on a first-generation Syrian or Saudi and call them a Frenchman??? Might as well put Francois Hollande in a bleedin' kimono, a pair of getta and call him 'Samurai Sam'.

It ain't gonna work, folks.

f stop
16 Nov 2015  #1279

The solution to this whole terrorism problem is to discredit religions across the board. Starting in our own back yard. All the "I'll pray for you" legions need to learn that they can believe whatever the hell they want, but theirs is not the norm anyone should aspire to. Just as Muslims manage to keep all the reasonable, educated people around them silent, same thing is being done by catholics. And unless we are willing to stand up and put religion in people's private homes, where it belongs, and out of politics and public life, we have no right judging others and their beliefs. If somebody wants to believe that after they die they will go somewhere better and be reunited with their dead cat, or believe in do-overs, 21 virgins, or that praying will ward off their death, they should be too embarrassed to admit it publicly. It's time for science, logic and critical thinking to rule. THAT can unite us. Whether the rest of the world admits it or not, they still look up to the US, and if US had enough guts to place religion right along with aliens and zombies, it would free countless people around the world, people that are counted as religious just because the society seems to demand it. Free them! Let reason win!

Dougpol1
16 Nov 2015  #1280

The solution to this whole terrorism problem

Post.

Harry
17 Nov 2015  #1281

Merged: Football hooligans caught smuggling immigrants

Mods: I didn't know which of the immigrant threads this best fits in, move it to your choice if you think it's best there.

Border guards suspect hooligans from Krakow have smuggled refugees

Border Guards detained nearly a hundred refugees which Poles tried to take across the border with Germany. They charged 3,000 euro per person. Among the drivers are suspected Krakow hooligans.

Full article (in Polish) here: ht tp://wyborcza.pl/1,75478,19198433,straz-graniczna-podejrzewa-kibole-z-krakowa-szmugluja-uchodzcow.html

delphiandomine
17 Nov 2015  #1282

Just shows that these "patriots" that Polonius refers to are actually willing to cooperate with Muslims when cash is involved.

Wulkan
17 Nov 2015  #1283

Getting money off muslims while sending them away to Germany is very patriotic behavior.

Harry
17 Nov 2015  #1284

Interesting that to you a patriot has to be paid in order to do what is best (in your and his opinion) for Poland.

gregy741
17 Nov 2015  #1285

wow...terrorist attack on Merkel in Hanover. is that confirmed? my internet slow today.
wpolityce.pl/swiat/272161-proba-zamachu-na-merkel-odwolany-mecz-niemcy-holandia-ewakuacja-kibicow-znaleziono-bombe

Polonius3
18 Nov 2015  #1286

latest terrorist attack

Although a whole ocean separates them from the Muslim heartland, more and more Americans are concerend about the inroads made by Muslim immigrants in or near their own communities. Here is a small sample circulating in the state of Muichigan:

Alarmingly, those who believe Islam and its repressive anti-Constitutional Shariah must rule the whole world, are making serious inroads in towns and cities right here in America - sometimes with our own tax dollars!

What's more, the followers of Islam's Shariah are not simply believers in a "religion." Instead, they are waging jihad (holy war) - in one form or another - to force the whole world to submit to their dictates, non-Muslim and Muslim alike . . .

. . . even coercing or forcing what we would consider to be "the good Muslims" to join them in conforming to Shariah.

And with illegal and legal Muslim immigration in America growing at record rates, Shariah-adherent immigrants are challenging the Judeo-Christian foundation of our U.S. Constitution, our culture and values - often in ways unknown to most Americans.

Worse yet, Islamic leaders are cleverly using our own 1st Amendment rights to establish and defend so-called "Islamic Centers" here in our country, that in reality are Shariah-adherent mosques that advance "Jihad" against America.

nothanks
18 Nov 2015  #1287

> Belgium

"Terror attacks on Charlie Hebdo, the Jewish Museum in Brussels, Madrid commuter trains, and now the latest in Paris all have links to one Brussels neighbourhood."

euronews.com/2015/11/16/molenbeek-the-hub-of-jihadist-terrorism-in-europe/

Molenbeek has a diverse immigrant population and suffers from high unemployment- some 40 percent of young people there are out of work.. It also has sent a higher proportion of its residents to fight in Syria than anywhere else in Europe.

mafketis
18 Nov 2015  #1288

Molenbeek has a diverse immigrant population

Diversity = weakness and strife, the diverse multi-ethnic state of Belgium has been a government basket case for about 10 years (a contributing factor in the expansion of dysfunction in Molenbeek)

some 40 percent of young people there are out of work

See? Europe needs more unemployed muslim men because..... unemployed young people will pay the pensions of tomorrow???

It also has sent a higher proportion of its residents to fight in Syria than anywhere else in Europe.

Not a problem unless Belgian or EU regulations are daft enough to let them back in.... oh.

spiritus
18 Nov 2015  #1289

So what are you going to do with the refugees?

And how exactly have these people been identified as refugees ? Please tell me. Is it because they crossed the Med on a boat ? If you were leaving a country for a new life in another continent would you not think about taking some documents to prove your identity ?

Of course, some of these people are genuine refugees but not all of them and on that basis how many of them have been turned back ? I think the answer is currently NONE

InPolska
18 Nov 2015  #1290

Besides, Islamists HAD WARNED us that they would send a lot of terrorists so now let's not be "surprised". Most probably Saudi Arabia, where Levy earns his bread, does sneak them in...


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