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75 Years of Israel and the War
jon357
29 Nov 2023 #1412
Thing is there is no kind of civil society whatsoever
Did Netanyahu etc want a strong and prosperous Palestine?
jon357
29 Nov 2023 #1414
It's a given that that's what he's got. long-term.
We should be careful though to separate Gaza and Palestine; there are some certain key differences. In Gaza, there's always the elephant in the room, or specifically a sphinx.
Atch
29 Nov 2023 #1415
Who would have thought that Ireland is so sympathetic to terrorists and kidnappers!
A foolish and false statement.
Hey, Atch, if you were a judge, what would you give the Hamas guys
I personally believe that the punishment should fit the crime so in theory their own children should die in a similar manner. However, I also believe in tempering justice with mercy and the world is in serious trouble when so-called civilised people would stoop to deliberate murder of children - so I'd settle for the death penalty and they should be executed in the same manner which they inflicted on those they killed.
Novichok
29 Nov 2023 #1416
...so I'd settle for the death penalty and they should be executed
I am pleasantly surprised. Are you sure you are not an American?
Alien
29 Nov 2023 #1417
they should be executed
Whether they are prisoners of war or not. What is their status?
Novichok
29 Nov 2023 #1418
What is their status?
They are criminals, not combatants of a recognized state that is a signatory to the GC. The Italian mafia in Chicago had a command structure, too.
Atch
29 Nov 2023 #1419
I am pleasantly surprised.
Well, the view I expressed is my natural instinct but I know that if you did carry out such a sentence, it makes these guys into martyrs to their own people and paves the way for more nut job radicals. So in reality I'd impose whatever maximum penalty is allowed by the court in which they're being tried.
However, if they could be committed to prison for life I might have their voice boxes removed as rightful justice for the lifelong psychological scars they've left on this poor child:
rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/1129/1419062-emily-hand/
Alien
29 Nov 2023 #1420
The Italian mafia in Chicago had a command structure, too.
There are no talks with the mafia, no truce is established and no prisoners are exchanged. Are you sure of what you write?
Novichok
29 Nov 2023 #1421
So what? How does that make my post 1418 not true?
Just because Hamas kidnaps to exchange for their own, not cash, makes them a Geneva Convention state?
Alien
29 Nov 2023 #1422
makes them a Geneva Convention state?
I never wrote this, I'm just curious about their status as POWs.
Novichok
29 Nov 2023 #1423
There are no POWs when there is no war. Wars are between states like Ukraine and Russia. Gaza is not a state. I know because Hamas demands a two-state solution. If they were a state they would not be demanding what they already have. Duh...
Lyzko
29 Nov 2023 #1424
Quit rationalizing, RIch! POW's refer to Prisoners of War
in any armed conflict, according to the Geneva Convention.
Probably Hamas terrorists don't acknowledge this agreement,
but you as an American should.
If all's fair in love, war, and business,
turn in your membership card to the human race and go air a gun at your
temple.
Joker
29 Nov 2023 #1425
Gaza is not a state.
Any help the west gave them was spent on terrorism and nothing for the actual citizens.
But thats who they voted into power.

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Bobko
29 Nov 2023 #1426
I know because Hamas demands a two-state solution. If they were a state they would not be demanding what they already have.
I wish our politicians were as clear at formulating their thoughts.
Novichok
29 Nov 2023 #1427
in any armed conflict, according to the Geneva Convention.
When cops and black thugs have a shootout, that's "any armed conflict". Are they covered by the GC?
In Texas, my favorite state, black thugs who kill cops get executed. Does Texas violate the GC? Or should they hold them as POWs until the "war" with black thugs is over?
To make it foreign...Can we execute MS-13 gangsters from El Salvador? They come here from another state...Those we catch...Are they POWs or just foreign garbage that should be shot and incinerated?
Israel is in a quandary of its own making by abolishing the death penalty. In that sense, I appreciate the German Gestapo and SS and their simplified approach where intellectuals like you get lost in their own matrix of madness.
Lyzko
30 Nov 2023 #1431
Anger is natural and can be salubrious,
however, its display can often wreak havoc,
much of which cannot be rationalized away.
Novichok
30 Nov 2023 #1432
Anger only requires lack of self control
...and a trigger. Morons trigger me real bad.
People who bottle it up die earlier.
Cargo pants
30 Nov 2023 #1434
will be angry.
Anger requires
Anger is natural
LOL thats why I give them anger management therapy here LOL esp these brit sh.its.
If I could I would hand them rat poison as a solution too that includes the fat diabetic brit mod for him double dose lol
Bratwurst Boy
1 Dec 2023 #1435
Never thought I would agree...the UN is not what it once was!
It's even worse!
It would be an outrageous incident that violates all the values for which the United Nations was founded.
bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-inland/geisel-im-gaza-streifen-uno-lehrer-hielt-israelischen-jungen-gefangen-86274226.bild.html
...A released Israeli hostage says he was locked in his attic for over 50 days by a teacher from the UN relief agency UNRWA. The UN teacher was therefore fulfilling the "service" of the terrorist organization Hamas. This is reported by journalist Boker Almog from Israeli Channel 13. ...
....
The UN teacher was a teacher and father of 10 children. He treated the hostage badly, gave him little food and no medical care - while he continued to provide loving care for his family. .....
It makes sense....UNRWA has been in Gaza for decades, they are deep with HAMAS, or otherwise they would had been declared an enemy...anything at all. It fits with the schoolbook-desaster, UN-paid materials for arab schools which teaches already the little kids to hate Jews and to deny Israel the right of existence.
UN Teachers Call To Murder Jews, Reveals New Report
unwatch.org/un-teachers-call-to-murder-jews-reveals-new-report/
We need to stop funding the UNO terrorists!
Lyzko
1 Dec 2023 #1436
Quite simply, the limits of free speech end when someone calls for the annihilation
of a group of people, period!
Should the latter belong to a migrant community, the offending members of that community
must be systematically deported or returned to their native country.
jon357
1 Dec 2023 #1438
They should be shot
So should you, however nature will take its course before the quickest sharpshooter could load their gun.
Miloslaw
1 Dec 2023 #1439
esp these brit sh.its.
Why do you hate Brits so much?
Could it because they refused you a visa Deepak??
Novichok
1 Dec 2023 #1440
So should you,
Why? I didn't invade anything and anyone?
Could it be because they refused you a visa Deepak??
Nobody needs a visa in the UK. In fact, your border protection guys, just like ours, assist people without visas to land safely on your beaches.