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75 Years of Israel and the War



Bratwurst Boy
23 Dec 2023  #1711

"KulturKAMPF" sounds better and better....

Evidence of possible attacks - police increase protective measures at Cologne Cathedral

The police have increased security around Cologne Cathedral and state security is investigating. In Vienna, the emergency services are also tightening their measures in view of an "increased risk".

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/koeln-gefahrenhinweis-polizei-erhoeht-schutzmassnahmen-am-koelner-dom-a-dcdecc8a-224a-4711-82d9-322403d2657e

Visitors to church services in Cologne Cathedral and tourists will have to prepare for increased security standards in the coming days. that the police would take special protective measures due to a warning of danger The authorities announced on Saturday.....

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"Since terrorist actors across Europe are calling for attacks on Christian events - especially around December 24th - the security authorities have increased the corresponding protective measures in public spaces in Vienna and the federal states," it said in a statement .

Measures could include access controls, and Christmas markets would also be under special attention from emergency services, it said.


Mr Grunwald
24 Dec 2023  #1712

@Bratwurst Boy
It's despicable, not only is it long time ago since Ottomon Empire fought against HRE (mainly against Austria) but, most recent conflicts in middle-east was caused by English, French or American meddling.

Even as ironic and tragic was Germany being one of the biggest supporters of Arab&muslim independance and autonomy for her rivals to get weakened and score points with Turks at different times...

That Even 1 bomb has been detonated in Germany is not only a grand betrayel but, also completely impossible to defend. Any muslim/arab can thank Jews in general for Germans to be so mild towards them for this, cause Germans have done what they could to improve their reputation and keep their aggression at bay.

Bratwurst Boy
24 Dec 2023  #1713

....our christmas markets are looking like fortifications....people discuss to forbid new-year-fireworks generally because of the war scenes in certain districts during that time....now it has become even dangerous to go to mass with your family....all developments thanks to our new "Mitbürger"....thank you very much.

I'm not even Christian and I'm angry!

Alien
24 Dec 2023  #1714

I'm not even Christian and I'm angry

Are you suggesting that Christians would be even more angry?

Bratwurst Boy
24 Dec 2023  #1715

Depends....not, if they are of the "turning the other cheek" - kind.

Mr Grunwald
24 Dec 2023  #1716

@Bratwurst Boy
As in, «I dare you to try and hit me again»?

Bratwurst Boy
24 Dec 2023  #1717

.....isn't it more like: "Please hit me again!"?

Mr Grunwald
25 Dec 2023  #1718

@Bratwurst Boy
No, that had been misunderstood by a lot of people

Bratwurst Boy
25 Dec 2023  #1719

....that truly needs to be explained better!

pawian
25 Dec 2023  #1720

Nazi Israelis boast of killing 8000 Hamas terrorists.

It would be funny if it wasn`t so tragic. During WW2, Nazi Germans also killed women and children in villages and then bragged to their superiors of liquidating partisans. .

Alien
25 Dec 2023  #1721

8000 Hamas terrorists.

Oh, terrorists in skirts and strollers.

Przelotnyptak1
26 Dec 2023  #1722

It is not like you Alien, so it is possible I missed the meaning of your post, in which case I apologize. The nagging question remains: where does blindness come from?

from, where 1500 innocent Israelis were murdered in the most gruesome fashion.?No, I am not Jewish, one 100%Polish and Catholic, but I am able to separate the grain from the chaff. Don't forget the starting point of the conflict.

Alien
26 Dec 2023  #1723

@Przelotnyptak1
There is a Polish proverb: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. But this proverb definitely does not write 10 eyes for 1 eye, 10 teeth for one tooth.

pawian
26 Dec 2023  #1724

ut this proverb definitely does not write

Good answer.

Oh, terrorists in skirts and strollers.

And with plaits. It is so sad that natio Israelis turned into modern Nazis.


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Novichok
26 Dec 2023  #1725

But this proverb definitely does not write 10 eyes for 1 eye, 10 teeth for one tooth.

My ratio is 1000 to 1 and I still feel it's too low. One-for-one keeps wars going. 1000 to 1 ends wars.
In this case, if we multiply 1500 by 1000, we get 1,500,000. Israel has ways to go before they should feel any shame.
My brilliant math was actually applied in Japan in August 1945. This is how the US got even with these m-fers for the dead POWs.

pawian
26 Dec 2023  #1726

1000 to 1 ends wars.

No, it doesn`t. New Hamas fighters are being bred by Nazi Israelis right now. Every Nazi Israeli bomb or rocket exploding in civilian districts and killing non combatant people gives birth to dozens of new Palestinian warriors.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Dec 2023  #1727

New Hamas fighters are being bred by Nazi Israelis right now

So I hear it often...."violence breeds violence" and that all....but then I wonder what happened in and with Germany....here the total destruction of the Nazis and their infrastructure worked great, didn't it!

And yeah, some Nazis survived.....their flight to Argentina or their further achievements as far as the Moon (heh:) in the coming decades are legendary, and they have even yet still followers....but still, the mass killings and the worst war in european history ended, for good! (The same with Japan btw.)

So....I say....give the IDF and it's allies a chance!

Novichok
26 Dec 2023  #1728

.here the total destruction of the Nazis and their infrastructure worked great, didn't it!

Perfect!

Strangely, Israel shows Russia how it should be done. Half-ass efforts produce half-ass results.

Now I am going to play again some YouTube videos about Enola Gay and how she dropped a mushroom...

Przelotnyptak1
26 Dec 2023  #1729

[quote=pawian]And with plaits. It is so sad that natio Israelis turned into modern Nazis.

Well, sure, and Hamas Yemenis, Somalis, and countless other Muslim countries are a model of peaceful democracies under relentless attacks by Israel.
Give me a break. Learn a little about geopolitical reality in the Sandland. Don't forget the disproportional difference in the population and the land area.

And most importantly, don't ever forget Muslim religious fanatism.

pawian
26 Dec 2023  #1730

here the total destruction of the Nazis

Not everywhere. The communist GDR bred Nazis and invited them into Stasi and other forces. Being an Eastern German, you should know such things. :):):)

That is why neo Nazis are the strongest in Eastern Germany.

So....I say....give the IDF a chance!

I had given them a chance for years before. And the result was null. Now I have had enough of wars. Israelis are new Nazis and that`s my new opinion which I am going to stick to for the coming years until those Nazis get civilised. Like Russians need to, too.


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Novichok
26 Dec 2023  #1731

BB, please ignore the moron.

pawian
26 Dec 2023  #1732

BB, please ignore

It isn`t only me you need to ignore. :):):) The world`s opinion is turning against Nazi Izrael. Slowly but irreversibly.

No, I am not Jewish, one 100%Polish and Catholic,

Me, too. But I am against Nazis. In Israel and in Russia. Why? Coz apart from being Polish and Catholic, I am also a decent person. Ha!!!

Torq
26 Dec 2023  #1733

Israel bombing Palestinian civilians in Gaza is no different from Polish, British and American bomber crews bombing German civilians in Dresden and other cities of Nazi Germany.

Germans in Nazi Germany voted Nazis into power and overwhelming majority of them supported the Nazis (either actively or passively) or even applauded their actions. For this they (and also many innocent children) suffered.

Palestinians in Gaza voted Hamas into power and overwhelming majority of them supports Hamas (either actively or passively) or even applaud their actions. For this they (and also many innocent children) suffer.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Dec 2023  #1734

That is why neo Nazis are the strongest in Eastern Germany.

You could say Communism and Nazism aren't that different....."Nazi" means "Nationalsozialist" after all, Nazism aka National Socialism having lotsa leftist, socialist, even green-ecological roots...not only in the naming.

Ideological thinking is never so different from another one....even if "the Cause" is named differently, "the Cause" will always be that good and worthy and necessary that killing non-follower/enemies/imagined enemies/traitors etc. for it is highly acceptable!

The world`s opinion is turning against Nazi Izrael. Slowly but irreversibly.

When has it ever been different?

If Israel ever did listen to "world opinion" they would be an opressed, tiny minority soon again....as it happened in the whole middle- and near East.

(With Christians too btw.)

Novichok
26 Dec 2023  #1735

Israel bombing Palestinian civilians in Gaza is no different from Polish, British and American bomber crews bombing German civilians

NO!!!!!!!!!

Israel gave the civilians in Gaza an advance notice to move and told Hamas that hiding behind civilians will not work.

The Allies did not do any of that in Germany or Japan. To their credit, Germans did not use their civilians as shields.

Torq
26 Dec 2023  #1736

Israel gave the civilians in Gaza an advance notice to move and told Hamas that hiding behind civilians will not work.

Hmm... a very good point, Novi. Very good point indeed. So, Israel is not even as bad as Allies were in WW2.

And you are right about Hamas being cowards hiding behind civilians.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Dec 2023  #1737

Germans did not use their civilians as shields.

So, Israel is not even as bad as Allies were in WW2.

During the Dresden Firestorm approximately 250.000 civilians had been killed, as most able men of fighting age were away at the fronts...

Israel had been nice to the Arabs compared to that!

Novichok
26 Dec 2023  #1738

Ideological thinking is never so different from another one.

Leftists desperately need the other wind to excuse their own criminality and found it in "fascists".
Fascists and leftists are the same crap and both are totalitarians. To their credit, fascists don't claim that a man can get pregnant.

Przelotnyptak1
26 Dec 2023  #1739

very Nazi Israeli bomb or rocket exploding in civilian districts and killing non combatant people gives birth to dozens of new Palestinian warriors.

Are you stupid or just extremely ignorant? Israeli bombs exploded right where Hamass was hiding amongst the civilian population: hospitals and schools,
places of worship. By the way, the "civilian population" is an oxymoron; they elected murderous beasts, and they protect and hide murderers; they are thirsty for Israelis' blood, just like Hamas, no difference, so don't make me laugh talking about civilians.

Przelotnyptak1
26 Dec 2023  #1740

Coz apart from being Polish and Catholic, I am also a decent person. Ha!!!

Tell me again:::)))

Hamas (either actively or passively) or even applaud their actions. For this, they (and also many innocent children) suffer.

Amen to that, Torq.


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