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P.F. Administration Deleting and Re Writing Posts


johnny reb
18 Jan 2018  #1

The Polish Forum Administration rewrote my post in the Polish Hatred Towards Jews thread and then closed it so I could not reply.
Am I no longer allowed to post my opinion along side everyone else's opinion when in no way was it abusive ?
The last post in that thread before it was close was this:
A plea for clemency from a 96 year old German convicted over his role in the murders of 300,000 people at the Auschwitz death camp in Nazi occupied Poland has been rejected today.

Oskar Groening, known as the "bookkeeper of Auschwitz", was sentenced to four years in prison in 2015 for being an accessory to murder at Auschwitz.
He has not yet started his sentence due to his health.
Groening's court battle was seen as one of the last major trials related to the Holocaust.

NONE of that did I post ! yet there it was posted under my name with only ONE original line that I did post.

What I did post is my opinion which was that the 96 year old Auschwitz book keeper who killed no one should be pardoned of any crime as he has suffered all his life.

That was deleted completely along with other lines.
That opinion of mine was deleted like back in the "Old Days of Poland".
I am sure there were enough members who saw my original post so the "paranoia cop out excuse" can't be used this time.
I give whoever responsible an 'A' for Abuse.

You and the other posters below were members a long time ago until you received multiple warnings. You and the others with multiple warnings are here on probation - at ANY time you can get banned. So if you continue trolling by calling out moderators, expect the action (it applies to all the other abusers who posted in this thread. Nobody is deleting or rewriting posts, unless it's an incorrect thread title or abuse - having received dozens of warnings you must know that.
Joker
18 Jan 2018  #2

It sounds like an editor from CNN or MSNBC must have became a mod here. No red text on the bottom indicating changes made either?
johnny reb
18 Jan 2018  #3

Why such a trolling thread was even allowed to begin with is the question.
Nothing constructive will come from such a name for a thread besides abuse and negative banter.
With that said, no one here believes that the Polish hate the Jews to begin with.
I know I don't.
Can anyone name a member here that does ?
Taxpaying voter
18 Jan 2018  #4

No red text on the bottom indicating changes made either?

That's quite common. For some reason at least one mod thinks he should be able to edit posts without leaving any trace. It gets quite amusing when you see him editing out insults from posts by his favourite posters when he'd immediately bin such a post when made by the average poster, possibly issuing a warning too and would happily use such a post as an excuse to ban certain posters.
johnny reb
18 Jan 2018  #5

one mod thinks he should be able to edit posts without leaving any trace.

Thanks Harry for the help.
Vincent always leaves some red print explaining his actions and since there are only two Mods it would have to be the other one.
Arts, you just received an 'A' warning for abusing members with your Commie style editing.
(If I have accused the wrong person then I apologize and may the guilty one man up.)
From now on when you abuse your authority and not leave a red explanation by pulling such a Commie act you will be threatened to be suspended for three days with rude remarks like you leave members in your PM's to us.

We as members would like to request that anytime a member is given a warning, has their post edited or sent a PM or any other correspondence from a Mod that said Mod be required to put their name with it so we know who to hold accountable for their actions.

This request is being asked in a serious manner so no smart ass responses please.
Taxpaying voter
18 Jan 2018  #6

******* always leaves some red print explaining his actions and since there are only two Mods it would have to be the other one.

I can assure you that your statement is incorrect. I'd have named the moderator I was referring to, but he's issued a standing threat to ban people who post his username in open forum.

said Mod be required to put their name with it so we know who to hold accountable for their actions.

While that would be great, it isn't ever going to happen. I'd settle for just an indication that a post has been edited by a moderator, in the same way that there is an indicator to show that a post has been edited by the poster.
johnny reb
18 Jan 2018  #7

I can assure you that your statement is incorrect.

Then I sincerely apologize to Arts.

. I'd have named the moderator but he's issued a standing threat to ban people who post his username in open forum.

When was that as I missed it so I am exempt, PM me with it so we can put it to a test.
Besides, I have already been told that I am not welcomed here by the Administration so that is just a matter of time for me anyways.

Did he tell you why he fears his name being posted here ?

I'd settle for just an indication that a post has been edited by a moderator

That sounds like a very reasonable request Harry.
That would be a start anyways.
Taxpaying voter
18 Jan 2018  #8

When was that as I missed it

It's been posted more than once. Have a look at this post: polishforums.com/news/pro-opposition-open-dialogue-foundation-cover-81807/3/#msg1605858
johnny reb
18 Jan 2018  #9

Have a look at this post:

Yes and did not see any Mods telling you that you would be banned for posting their name.
Which # post on that page are you referring to ?
Ziemowit
18 Jan 2018  #10

So if you continue trolling by calling out moderators, expect the action

I can't get it really. Is Johnny Reb right when saying that a mod added some text to his post or is Johnny Reb wrong because the said mod did not add any text into that post of his.

Could anyone from The PF Administration make it more clear for me or anyone else? Thank you. No, he is confused, he lies, or both.
johnny reb
18 Jan 2018  #11

So if you continue trolling by calling out moderators,
No one is trolling, we are merely pis-sed off to have a mod. post text in OUR post that makes it look like we said it.

So if you continue abusing members you should expect to get called out for it.
until you received multiple warnings
yes and you were called out for adding warnings to my profile without ever notifying me about it - poof, suddenly there was a mystery warning in my profile to stack false charges to justify a suspension. A warning can be issued with or without a notice.

You know the warnings that you said would drop off if you don't get any new ones.
Well none of mine seem to be dropping off and I haven't had one in over a month now - go figure. Your last warning was: 2018-01-10 18:24:04.

To bully members with continuous threats of banning them because we question the Mods for writing text in post for members like some first grader is not trolling, it's called holding the Mods accountable for printing something we did not say or post.

Or has there been another new rule created that you get banned for questioning the Mods now for their cheesy actions.
Your PM to me is becoming very apparent.

You are persona non-grata here.

delphiandomine
18 Jan 2018  #12

Johnny, leave them alone.
johnny reb
18 Jan 2018  #13

No, he is confused, he lies, or both.
Speaking of trolling. lol. We are seriously tired of your trying to find a conspiracy against you. One more post in this thread and you are banned forever.
johnny reb
18 Jan 2018  #14

Johnny, leave them alone.

If you have not been banned for all the things you have done here I certainly should be safe delph.
Lyzko
18 Jan 2018  #15

All I can tell youse is, if the mods can say it better, more power to 'em!

I've read plenty a post in my nearly ten years on (in?)PF, and some of 'em could definitely use a little editing...including my own:-)
WielkiPolak
19 Jan 2018  #16

To be honest when I saw the post I didn't think it looked like something Jonny would write. It was such a formal piece of information, with no opinion to it and just not in his style. So when he complained that his post was edited, it didn't surprise me.

I have had titles to my threads edited. Most of the time I don't see it as a problem, as it's probably improved, but sometimes it gets altered to something that isn't correct and isn't what I am actually writing about.

I think there should definitely be information in a post [in red or however] that it was edited by a moderator if it gets altered, otherwise you are effectively attributing something to someone that they haven't said.
delphiandomine
19 Jan 2018  #17

One more post in this thread and you are banned forever.

...a threat of a permanent ban?

Wow, Johnny, you really have have got something that no-one else has ever had on PF. It's definitely time to lay off the conspiracy theories about the mods and other members.
Taxpaying voter
19 Jan 2018  #18

I think there should definitely be information in a post [in red or however] that it was edited by a moderator if it gets altered

When people as diverse as you, me and Johnny all agree on something, that really is universal consensus. I wonder how likely it is that our views will be taken into consideration. I'll post more about that shortly after watching Satan ice-skating to work.

something that no-one else has ever had on PF.

From memory Bzi managed to get that ban twice.
WielkiPolak
19 Jan 2018  #19

When people as diverse as you, me and Johnny all agree on something, that really is universal consensus.

Indeed, we might not agree on much, but certain forum rules ought to be made and kept to. One of those, that to me seems self evident, should be that if somebody's post gets edited, it should be stated that this has taken place.
idem
19 Jan 2018  #20

Why do administrators alter people's posts? It is just weird....I understand racist, abusive posts can be suspended/removed but altering someone's posts? NOBODY IS ALTERING PEOPLE'S POSTS UNLESS IT'S A TOPIC TITLE ADJUSTMENT OR A VULGAR WORD.

So when someone writes a good post but adds "f**ck" or other vulgarities to the post, you'd rather remove the post completely than to remove the abusive word? You, probably, don't understand.
Crow
19 Jan 2018  #21

Blessings to the brat owner of this web site. Sarmatism rule on Polishforums. Only idiots, poor souls, don`t realize that.
Nathans
20 Jan 2018  #22

The level of idiocy (in Poland? maybe everywhere) has peaked. A banned from all other social networks person who has still been allowed to post thousands of messages here has the guts to complain that some of his posts are edited. Then another simpleton (they walk in pairs) is outraged that a post can be edited. Same simpleton must be posting on Facebook or Twitter not knowing that her posts are shadow-banned and visible only to her. Crow is right on that.
idem
20 Jan 2018  #23

So I would recommend you to b....r off to Facebook, take few selfies and you will feel at home.
delphiandomine
20 Jan 2018  #24

NOBODY IS ALTERING PEOPLE'S POSTS

Astonishing how Johnny's lies have caused people to believe that the mods are acting maliciously here.
Tlum
20 Jan 2018  #25

It's also astonishing how billions of Facebook, Reddit, Instagram, Twitter users are completely fine with shadow banning (maybe thinking to themselves that if the Big Brother considers their opinions dangerous, abusive, stupid, or useless then they have the right to censor them without even informing them and their "friends" that they are banned). Most people like to be slaves; otherwise, they would not be using these Big Brother tools and platforms. Too bad that those who come here try to bring the same ideas. Freedom is not free and one should learn how to use it properly. Yelling at those you don't agree with is not proper use of freedom.
Chemikiem
21 Jan 2018  #26

when I saw the post I didn't think it looked like something Jonny would write.

That's because he didn't write it. If you copy and paste Johnny's post into Google, you will see that it comes from Reuters, Daily Mail etc who are all reporting the same story in more or less the same words. I know for a fact that Johnny regularly copy/pastes from the internet, often not even providing a link. If someone does this on PF or any website, they have to abide with copyright law and keep within a word limit. If you read PF rule #11, members are allowed to copy 100 direct words, if they copy more, the post can be deleted or edited. My best guess at what's happened in this particular instance is that mods cropped his overlong post in accordance with the rules along with his personal opinion, as there are about 100 words now left in that post , so he decided to whine about it as he did about his thousands of 'deleted' posts that are actually in Polanda.

The other alternative is to believe that a mod, for no logical reason, decided to read the news and select a piece about said war criminal, and copy it into Johnny's post. Er, why would anyone bother?

What Admin has written in red on Idem's post #20 is truthful:

NOBODY IS ALTERING PEOPLE'S POSTS UNLESS IT'S A TOPIC TITLE ADJUSTMENT OR A VULGAR WORD.

Those were the only instances when I used to edit posts.
WielkiPolak
21 Jan 2018  #27

mods cropped his overlong post in accordance with the rules along with his personal opinion

That is also a possibility.
Crow
21 Jan 2018  #28

We should all pray to God. Never underestimate impact of providence on the actions of Admin`s venerable finger. Sure, especial prayer to the owner of web site and three more prayers in addition to his beautiful wife.
WielkiPolak
21 Jan 2018  #29

I know for a fact that Johnny regularly copy/pastes from the internet, often not even providing a link.

Johnny's text, after being edited, doesn't state any source either.

If you read PF rule #11, members are allowed to copy 100 direct words, if they copy more, the post can be deleted or edited.

that mods cropped his overlong post in accordance with the rules along with his personal opinion, as there are about 100 words now left in that post.

It's an interesting theory, although I've seen Johnny's original post and if real, it actually has less words that the edit [original = 102 words. Edit = 107 words]. So the text wasn't edited to make it shorter and is still over 100 words either way. I can post what he says that he originally wrote if you want to see it. If mods feel this is false, they could always post what it is they believe he initially wrote [his version has no vulgarity, just a one sentence opinion at the end of the piece of information].

I'm not saying I think there is a moderator conspiracy against him, but if his original text had no vulgarity and hasn't been shorted, then it seems to make no sense to have edited it, other than just to take out his opinion at the end. I think, just like there are blocks of red text in people's posts here, to show moderators comments, it should have been made clear that it was edited, or if something vulgar was supposedly taken out, then it should have been mentioned too. You know like 'edited for profanity' or 'edited to shorten copy and pasted text' or something like that. This transparency makes it obvious what is going on and avoids a situation [like we have] where people on the forum feel they are being unfairly targeted.
Taxpaying voter
21 Jan 2018  #30

someone writes a good post but adds "f**ck" or other vulgarities to the post

Given that abuse is supposed to result in warnings being given, if abuse is bad enough for you to feel the need to edit a post, why don't you also give a warning to the poster?

A certain moderator thinks that even posting his name is sufficient reasons to hand out a ban but you believe that calling somebody a "f*cking moron" should only result in the post being given an invisible edit. Why not even give some red lettered advice to that poster? The moderator who can't be named thinks that putting four quotes in a post in the bin warrants a one-week ban but you instead edit people's posts to remove the fourth quote. Is a little consistency too much to ask for?

You again make it very clear why you have received so many alerts from other posters (which will result in your permanent ban of all past and future accounts). You claim something that is completely false (that we don't give warnings for posting abusive words) and then you continue with the fabricated assumption as if it was true. You do it on a daily level and if you go on with this, expect the final solution. We can understand that it can be very frustrating for other posters to deal with such dishonest posts and we will make sure to prevent it in the future. You receive a warning for abusing the intellect.

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