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P.F. Administration Deleting and Re Writing Posts


dolnoslask
21 Jan 2018  #31

You receive a warning for abusing the intellect.

I thought he was the sharpest tool in the PF box

What would we do without him correcting our mis-understanding of Polish history and all things Polish.
Taxpaying voter
21 Jan 2018  #32

You claim something that is completely false (that we don't give warnings for posting abusive words)

If you do not give warnings for posting abusive words, how do you explain the lack of any warnings this user has ?action=userinfo&user=54392 ?

In this post polishforums.com/life/poland-last-bastion-europe-81842/#msg1606249 he calls another poster a "bloody moron", which is both abusive and vulgar, but for some reason the post was not edited, the post was not binned and no warning was given. Would you like to explain why that is, given that you say that stating warnings are not given for posting abusive words "is completely false"?

We can understand that it can be very frustrating for other posters to deal with such dishonest posts

As I've just shown, my post was in no way dishonest: I have linked to a post which is abusive and vulgar for which no warning was given.

You receive a warning for abusing the intellect.

Now that I've demonstrated my statement was completely true, will you be removing that warning?
dolnoslask
21 Jan 2018  #33

I have linked to a post which is abusive and vulgar for which no warning was given

Well that was the Polish Ultra And I believe that I made a true and appropriate comment, but hey why should I feel the need to defend myself, as Vincent has told me I am no angel on this forum, and he's right. If the cap fits wear it and all that.
Back again and a
21 Jan 2018  #34

Well that was the Polish Ultra And I believe that I made a true and appropriate comment

You may very well be correct in saying that. However, the claim by admin that stating warnings are not given for posting abusive words "is completely false" is demonstrably untrue. I don't know why the admin wants to lie to us.
dolnoslask
21 Jan 2018  #35

I don't think he lies, he probably takes into account the views of the other mods (All good leaders do this) before taking important actions or decisions, sometimes its worth time to stop and think about ones own words and actions before attacking the many who are screaming out facts that are falling on deaf ears, as I said before sometimes it's important to listen to the good advice of your peers, it has always held me in good stead.

All the best for the future Harry I wish you no illl.

Dolno.
delphiandomine
21 Jan 2018  #36

Just a point, but the red text referring to "the final solution" doesn't sit comfortably with me given Polish history... Hitler was not Polish if you didn't know that.
Lyzko
21 Jan 2018  #37

Me either!

Such posts however are solely intended to provoke and enrage, scarcely to engage the reader in serious, balanced debate:-)
dolnoslask
21 Jan 2018  #38

"the final solution" doesn't sit comfortably

Poor choice of words, maybe it should have been final destination, but whats your point here apart from fanning flames.
jon357
21 Jan 2018  #39

Hitler was not Polish if you didn't know that.

I'm not at all sure that excuses anyone, either Polish or any other nationality, from not avoiding the expression. There are much better ways to make a point than using a particularly emotionally loaded phrase that any reader would associate with the Holocaust.
Ironside
21 Jan 2018  #40

'm not at all sure that excuses anyone,

Those are only words, that out of context can mean anything. If people are obsessed with holocaust and Hitler that is their problem. I give no quarters to individuals who would like you to tell other people what expressions and words they should or shouldn't use.

A person like you who have no problem with a genocide of babies. Support it and think it is a good thing shouldn't be so squeamish when it comes to some more or less random turn of a phrase. Unless you don't care about it all but only use this opportunity to flash your brilliance for all to see ah and to try to order people about.
jon357
21 Jan 2018  #41

Those are only words

Very loaded words.

more or less random turn of a phrase

Nothing random about that phrase.
Chemikiem
21 Jan 2018  #42

if his original text had no vulgarity and hasn't been shorted, then it seems to make no sense to have edited it, other than just to take out his opinion at the end.

I didn't see the original post, and as I said earlier it's just my best guess. It's one of the two reasons why posts are edited. If that was the case, then his opinion may have been removed by accident with a mod assuming that all the unsourced text in his post was copy/pasted from the internet. I'm not sure how you know it hadn't been shortened? How can you know how many words it contained before it was edited, if indeed that was the case?
dolnoslask
21 Jan 2018  #43

I agree we all can make a mistakes thats why we have bumpers on cars and rubbers on pencils (for my american friends eraser not condoms)
Chemikiem
21 Jan 2018  #44

I could be wrong, but it's never a good idea to copy/paste too much from the internet, as posts will be cropped/edited accordingly.
dolnoslask
21 Jan 2018  #45

your not wrong because we have been told enough times not to do it.
WielkiPolak
21 Jan 2018  #46

How can you know how many words it contained before it was edited

I don't know but I have seen what Johnny has said was his original text. I put it through word count and it had 102 words. The edit is basically the copy and pasted text modified in such a way that more detail is actually included from the original source, so even though his opinion is taken out of it [purposely or possibly by mistake, I don't know], overall it actually has more words that the original. If you put the edited text through a word count you will notice it has 107 words.

I am happy to post the original text here if you want to see it for yourself, but I don't want it to get Johnny in any more trouble. Like I said, I don't know for sure if it is the original text, but it's hard to figure out a reason why Johnny would lie about it. If he did have vulgarity in there and it was taken out, but everything else left in, I don't think he would be bothered. His anger is that he added his opinion and that appears to have been deleted and then the whole thread subsequently closed.
Chemikiem
21 Jan 2018  #47

I have seen what Johnny has said was his original text

The problem is that what Johnny says more often than not, is not the truth. It was only recently he was bawling out admin about his 'deleted' posts which weren't deleted at all, but in the Polanda section, so I am rather skeptical when it comes to his version of the truth. Either way, people will believe what they want to believe. I only put my couple of pennies worth in, because I know from when I was a mod here, that mods do not routinely edit posts for no reason. No matter what, the post contained copy/paste material from the internet and staff are within their rights to edit it as the rules state.
dolnoslask
21 Jan 2018  #48

Johnny says more often than not, is not the truth

I don't think that is totally fair, all of us here can at times be said by others that we are telling untruths. I think there is an element of confusion or crossed wires here that has led to to some heated comments on all sides, everyone just needs to take a deep breath.

No need to make a mountain out of a molehill.

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