Chairman Kaczyński said..... / Opinions and ideas uttered by the leader of the PIS

I agree, that was the case of Stanczyk. Thank you for bringing him up.

In any measure, Stańczyk's fame and legend was strong already in his own times of the Renaissance, it later reappeared in 19th century and remains well-known to this day.[4] Unlike jesters of other European courts, Stańczyk has been always considered to have been much more than a mere entertainer.[6]

He is remembered as a man of great intelligence and a political philosopher gifted with formidable insight into Poland's current and future situation. He used his job to criticize and warn his contemporaries by the use of satire. His witty jokes often pertained to current political or court matters. Stańczyk's remarks and jokes were preserved by numerous contemporary writers and historians, including £ukasz Górnicki, Jan Kochanowski, Marcin Kromer, and Mikołaj Rej who praised him for fighting hypocrisy in the name of truth. Some sources even go as far as to call him a personal friend to Marcin Kromer, to the dislike of the bishops.[7]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sta%C5%84czyk

Do you suppose Kaczyński is like Stańczyk?

Actually italics imply emphasis. Quotes imply a quote.

I don't think we need to worry about that happening to him. Though the jester costume would suit him in a sort of a Chubby Brown way.

SHEIT! It seems EURO made politicians shut their mouths for a while.

It feels like desert island sometimes.

what about series of mysterious suicides ?

Series? Or just suicides.

suicides of prominent people or people on the crossroads of information and politics.
people not suicide prone,

So in fact middle aged men in high-stress professions.

Unless you're suggesting something fishy and paranoid.

are you suggesting those are suicidal prone positions ?what about Petelicki ?

So how about a list of the people involved in your so-called 'series' with some hard information that connects each of the people and suggests anything to back up your paranoid theory.

What theory ?

Exactly, what theory?

You used the word 'mysterious' so it isn't unreasonable to ask what this 'mystery' is all about...

Petelicki and suicide doesn't compute !
Nor Leper's for the matter.
In Petelicki case it is not even possible,

Mystery ? the PF is a discussion forum, Why would people be forced to debate rubbish all the time? who got bigger dick who is bigger boy who matter much, why women and polish women in particular are money garbing ******, why Poles are sucking one of the wealthiest countries in the world dry ?

Who is the biggest bastard of the millennium and which country is worst scumbag of the galaxy?
It is all educational because it shown that people are not that much different and underlaying prejudices stupidity and complexes are not national but human traits.

Other then that is a quite boring at times.
Why not discus on a notch higher level ? What wrong with debating some mysteries and conspiracy theories ?Are you claiming that there no mysteries nor conspiracies ?

I'm not sure why you say that his suicide is impossible. Usually it's the family who say that because they can't come to terms with the deceased's act of selfishness.

Really, saying that suicides of people in different walks of life are a series (and don't forget to add the one who was murdered by his son and the other who died in a car crash) is looking for something that just isn't there.

Seriously though suicides to happen but some are definitely more 'strange' than others. I mean Lepper apparently feared for this life, so how did he deal with it? Suicide. It makes no sense. That is like worrying you are going to fail an exam so you tear the exam paper up and burn it, meaning that you are now sure to fail it.

The problem is that what YOU want to debate


is the same rubbish as topics mentioned above. :):):):):)

Can`t you see it?

Nope, you can`t because:


:):):):):)

Given that he owed a considerable amount of money and left his family in a mess of debts, it makes perfect sense for a coward like Lepper to do something like that.

Some guys appear to be born fighters. They elbow their way and climb to the top leaving the dead behind.

But everything has a limit. After a long period of continual stress, even the toughest guys might snap. And they do, as we see from recent examples.

That is amassing amount of BS even for your standards !


Well, very unlikely at last.


He wasn't coward !Where are you getting your informations from, that would be interesting to know.

Not that unlikely. His profession has a relatively high suicide rate and Poland as a country has a very high suicide rate.

what profession ?


What age group ?:)

I think you know what General Petelicki's profession is just as well as anybody else who's ever heard of him, and in answer to your second 'question': his age group.

So no mystery at all. Not even Jarosław Kaczynski (famous for spouting nonsense he doesn't even believe himself in order to pander to the paranoid and hysterical losers who might vote for him) has suggested anything untoward.

But of course there's still time...

His profession changed in time, I cannot read your mind hence I asked !


How would you know ?:)
I find that dead mysterious !

It's hard to see the actual point you're trying to make. Surely you aren't suggesting that changes in someone's career reduce the likelihood of them committing suicide. And I really don't think you can sensibly claim that the suicide of a 66 year old man with access to guns in a country with one of the world's highest suicide rates and no suspicious circumstances is a mystery.

So what are you actually trying to say.

As little as possible :)
Just voicing my opinion on the subject !I doubt that his "profession" made him suicide prone, quite the contrary.

Really? So what was his profession when he killed himself, gynecologist?


Perhaps something along the lines of it all being a perfidious Jewish-British-Communist-Satanist plot designed to further their ceaseless aim of destroying the Christ of Nations?

Either that or he's just telling us he's worried his tin-foil hat is no longer working.

You should know the best. Wasn't he the one who helped you with your sex-changing operation?
Did he stop half way ?
No wonder that you are such a grump.

Anybody who reads any news source about him knows what his profession was, but do feel very free to keep lying about it.


A pathetic insult, even from you.

During a press conference today, J. Kaczyński said he is sceptical about suicide and suggested that Petelicki was on "a short list". It means he was a potential target for a hitman. Shortly speaking, Petelicki was assassinated, according to JK.

A new legend is born.........


I am sorry for him. Yes, he goes insane from time to time. Please, take no notice.

Yes, I cannot compete with you in insulting people.


tsk tsk
In Poland, statistically, suicides are commit by people in two age groups - 16-21 and 45-55 !
Given that P. was 66 years old, I dare to suggests that you are wrong :)