Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Agreed! But that contradicts your discussion opener that the Russians are the best, doesn't it....

OK. I fell victim to my hope that one day the US and Russia will be allies again.

I easily can imagine that Russia will be ally for United States that is democratically ruled by its population. But US "people" who actually rule that country is hardly need Russia in friends. ;)

PS: Doesn't even read whole thread. Had hard times here, my first visit in a couple of months.

You underestimate Poland. Poland isn`t eternal pleaser. Poland only made error not to expand western in time but it would be corrected.


Why then Polonia sponsor Serb Republic within Bosnia? Why then Poland help in arming Serbia?

Let me tell you - POLAND CARE. Poland behave as mama.

Maybe because of China. Russia leadership wouldn't have it. They have a better idea.


Germany and Russia are allies. They want to Keep USA out, Russia in and Poland down.

...and you left me alone to deal with the Russia-hating PF idiots.
BTW, how do you like the Russian anthem?


I wish them success. It would save us a billion or two.

Then sleepy Joe does a deal with Qatar to get plenty of Gas to the EU so that no one freezes. Now Russia picks up the flow of gas through Ukraine the next day. Funny how financial pressure on Russia can work so quickly.

If they were cut off from SWIFT and assets of the richest were frozen, Russia would be a country on the brink of collapse within a month. Now lets see how the "war" talk turns over the next few weeks.

All he has to do is open back up the Keystone Pipline instead of begging foreign countries.

We were a net exporter and energy independent under Trump and had plenty of gas for our European friends.

Impeach 46

Maybe Russia just do not extensively participates in this assessment? I have doubts that it does. Still it showed better results than Luxemburg, Italy, Spain and much better than US. So, it proves nothing.

@Joker
Its a Polish forum. Get a grip. The Keystone serves no purpose as it regards Ukraine. Why would the USA want to deplete its own natural resources for export to Ukraine when another country can do it? Energy independence would also mean conserving the USA resources for the USA and not exporting them.

Development

The chicken, a Russian spy, was arrested today at Pentagon after caught pecking at the grass around the building.

Torture of a spy is ongoing. Probably grill. God help him.

@Crow
Advice to a man that believes in the fantasy of a Slavic union.
Russia is only partly Slav and not really ethnically Slav.
And neither is Serbia, a nation created by Slavs interbreeding with Dacians and many other Balkan peoples.
Possibly the most Slav state in Europe is Poland.
Is that why you love us so much Crow?

80% of people in Russia are ethnic Russians. The rest are mostly Turkic and Caucasian people.

80% is really people that self-determined as Russians, there may be quite a lot of Finno-Ugric and Turkish roots, as Russians often interbred with local tribes during expansion to the East. But they feel yourself Russians, look like Russians, think like Russians and will fight for Russia and freedom to choose their way of life without outside oppression.

Once I tried to dig in my own roots. 1/2 is Russian blood from Mid-Volga, probably spiced with some Finnish addition. Second half is from Malorossia (the word "Ukraine" is not existed in that times), probably with addition of Pontic Greek and a few drops of jewish blood from Odessa for a better taste. ;)

And there is a lot of "Russian people of Chechen/Ingush/etc descent", that feel yourself as a part of their tribes, but still pleased to join something bigger and far more powerful for good.

And yes, there is as always a bit of haters that thinks that "white bwana know better", and ready to become traitor at any possible moment.

Turkic, probably, not too much. Not more than 5% of blood, maybe. Germanic and Baltic roots are probaby even more common than Turkic.

All my childhood I was awaken by same melody (without words that changed a bit). So, when I hear it I know - it's time to wake up and start to do something useful. ;)

Whoever composed the Russian national anthem was simply a genius. You hear it once and it's in your head forever.

Not too surprising. When the idea took root among Polish politicians: "If I serve the white masters from across the strait well enough, they will give me a pith helmet, a stick and appoint as a driver for barbarians from the east, whom we will drive to fight the Germans from time to time, so that they know their place ".. . ;)


A couple of funerals around me (my colleague and sister of a friend, both due to Covid), tasted personally what Omicron really is (it is not a flu, it is different beast, for sure), now trying to keep projects go ahead (both my own and ones that was unfinished by deceased colleague).

Glad you are doing better.
Stick around. We have enemies at the gates here.

Depend of region. Somewhere Turkic "addition" prevail, somewhere Finno-Ugric, somewhere Baltic/German (northwest).


If you mean US, you had it from the start, and probably not in the gates but behind your backs. ;)

The most common haplogroups among native Tatars are N - commong among Finns and R1a - the same as among Slavs. Only 5.7% of them have C haplogrop and 1.9% - O haplogroup, which are common among Mongols. Originally (before Mongol conquest) Russian Tatars were known as Volga Bulgars and European-like appearence prevailed among them.

eupedia.com/forum/threads/31231-Y-DNA-Haplogroups-in-Tatarstan
And Volga Tatars is the largest Turkic group in Russia.

Haplogroups among native Russians:
I: Nordic (Northwestern European) Origin. The I1 lineage likely has its roots in northern France. Today it is found most frequently within Scandinavian populations in northwest Europe and has since spread down into Central and Eastern Europe, where it is found at low frequencies. The Vikings belong to this Haplogroup and they were among the earliest settlers of Western Russia, Ukraine, and Poland. 17% of modern day Russians have Haplogroup I or sub-haplogroups I1 and I2.

R1b1: Western European Origin. This lineage is also the haplogroup containing the Atlantic modal haplotype. Celtic people belong to this Haplogroup and they were among the earliest settlers of Russia. 7% of modern day Russians share this origin.

familytreedna.com/groups/russian-dna/about/results

Rather with Tatars and Bashkirs, Finnish were up North.


What time? Malorussia is a political term that was invented by Moscow in response to Ukraine. As such is much more recent.


Scoff all you want. It doesn't change the fact that Russian way of things is not attractive to anyone, unless brainwahed from the craddle. You lose every time with Poland when the rules are not bend in your favor. The only recurce you have is military. Gather the horde and attack. You have large sways of land, lots of people, rich ores and you suck big time. lol! So watch what you say! I can radicule Russia all day long and I don't need to lie to do that.


Rus from Scandinavia build the first Rus dutchy along trade routes. Ruryk was from there and up to 1050 they had warriors imported from there. Kind of Scandinavian Colony, so that 17% is not a suprise.

The US swamp and warmongers. Americans like Russia and Putin. You can tell from the Youtube comments when the subject is Russia, Putin, or your May 9 parades.

Our common enemy is the non-white invading scum and the white woke idiots who support them.

The modern Bashkirs' genetic makeup is made up on average of approximately 60% "West-Eurasian/European" and 40% "Siberian/East-Asian" genetic material.[31]
Genetic studies about Y-DNA haplogroups have revealed that the dominant frequency for Bashkir males is the haplogroup R1b (R-M269 and R-M73) which is, on average, 47.6%. The second most dominant haplogroup is haplogroup R1a at an average frequency of 26,5%, and the third is haplogroup N1c at 17%.

Haplogroups C, O, D1, were found at lower incidences and are associated with Far Eastern Asians.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashkirs#Genetics

Biden sends 2000 soldiers to Germany and Poland....

edition.cnn.com/2022/02/02/politics/us-troops-europe-russia/index.html

President Joe Biden has formally approved additional US military deployments to eastern Europe, and the Pentagon is expected to announce Wednesday morning that the troops will deploy "in the coming days," US officials told CNN.

The deployments are a show of support to NATO allies feeling threatened by Russia's military moves near Ukraine, the officials said.

The Pentagon is expected to announce that thousands of additional US troops will deploy to forward locations in Europe. The deployments will include roughly 2,000 US troops to Poland and an additional few thousand to southeastern NATO countries, including Romania, the sources said. ....

He should take the troops out of Germany and move them to Poland.

I guess these are not so many soldiers anymore but more like service personal for Germany is today mostly a huge NATO/US hub including hospitals (Ramstein) etc....

Thats good. Why should we want to defend Germany after they always try and weasel out on their NATO commitments and stopping the help to Ukraine, just join Vlad already.

...I think when Germany truly "joins" Vlad you would know it!

Germany don't want them. Do you think they do?