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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



mafketis
8 Mar 2022  #4201

I never supported the invasions of Iraq and Afghanista

I didn't either.

Poland have to provide real refugee status (which later leads to permanent residency and citizenship) to all the refugees

Many most will want to return home (if the Russonazis haven't completely destroyed their home). Traditionally refugee status was intended to be temporary until the cessation of hostilities (totally initiated by the savage and primitive Russian state in this case).

But Poland can assimilate some, for sure. Especially if they have skills and can work (learning the local language and culture will not present any particular difficulties....)

Bratwurst Boy
8 Mar 2022  #4202

US wants to stop energy imports from Russia

spiegel.de/wirtschaft/ukraine-krieg-usa-wollen-oel-import-aus-russland-verbieten-a-4ef064ce-9b5b-402c-bd75-9b387cb40fa3

According to media reports, US President Biden plans to ban the purchase of Russian oil, liquefied natural gas and coal from today. The USA is probably acting without the participation of its European allies. ...

Wow!

Last year, according to the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), Russia was the third most important country for US imports of crude oil and petroleum products - behind Canada and Mexico. Imports from Russia, at a volume of 672,000 barrels (159 liters each) per day, accounted for almost eight percent of all US imports in this category. ...

amiga500
8 Mar 2022  #4203

Do you think Poland have to provide real refugee status (which later leads to permanent residency and citizenship) to all the refugees from Ukraine?

as of yesterday we have 400k ukr children refugees in Poland do we teach them Polish or Ukrainian or both? and where is the money from the EU/USA? hard questions to answer. Right now Polish Gov is doing this.

- Giving every business and individual money for hosting ukr refugees
- Giving every Ukr refugee a PESEL which is equiv to Aussie TFN and Medicare number
- Giving them 18 month residency, they are treated as polish and can work legally. (which is damm more than turkey did for the syrians) (and trust me this will be extended indefinitely.)

And that's not even mentioning the help from individual polish and NGOs and grassroots community org that has just sprung up.

And what will Ruskis do with these fake humanitarian corriders? starve them to death or just feed them thin gruel twice a day?

Novichok
8 Mar 2022  #4204

Memo to liars and demagogues: To improve the way we communicate, try to put numbers on the quality of life of the average Joe in Poland in 1968, P, and Russia in 2019, R. Then, subtract P from R. Still want to die for the difference?

Nobody in Poland in 1968 was committing suicide because of the Soviets and their "occupation".
I would also like to suggest that the Soviets were a lot less nice then than Russia is today, which makes all that talk about "hope and despair, life and death, freedom and slavery, living and existing" a pure pile of crap.

BTW, Russia doesn't even have the death penalty, if it matters to you, Russia haters. The worst that can happen is Black Dolphin.

amiga500
8 Mar 2022  #4205

The worst that can happen is Black Dolphin.

Is that code for a six year old getting blown to pieces, or a mother getting her legs blown off by a ruski BM-21 Grad?, oh yeah the mother got blown to pieces as well.

Nobody in Poland in 1968 was committing suicide because of the Soviets and their "occupation".

No the Soviets were quietly 'suiciding' anyone who spoke up, or to hard labour 're-education'.

mafketis
8 Mar 2022  #4206

Let's say in 2006 there were 25 rubles to a dollar (IIRC that was about the peak and it was a bit lower but bear with me)

that is a ruble was worth about 4 cents

Now a ruble is worth is les than one cent....

16 years of supposed growth and the ruble is less than 20 % of what it was ....

But, it's Russia so the head of state bears no responsibility for his catastrophic leadership...

I welcome corrections

amiga500
8 Mar 2022  #4207

right next to a sign that has "BLM" on it.

and what has that got to do with Ukraine and Poland you sub-human pro ruski thug moron?

PolAmKrakow
8 Mar 2022  #4208

@amiga500
No its code for Russian's raping women and young girls.

@Novichok
No death sentence in Russia, just the gulag until you died from starvation. Fing moron. No death sentence, just shot to death if you tried to escape. No one believes your BS any more.

amiga500
8 Mar 2022  #4209

You are full of sh*it

Funny that my grandfather got 10 years hard labour for saying one word about USSR agricultural policy in the Stalinist period, my father remembered him screaming under the bed from the torture he got, my other grandfather only survived cause his fake papers were good, he was a hero of the AK, but in the mid fifties the SB came to him and said , mister we know who u are now,

but they let him live. Only reason my mother and thus I am still alive. there was a world in Poland before 1968, it was called the 40s, and 50s. hey maybe your dead mother remember those days, u as hell sure don't.

mafketis
8 Mar 2022  #4210

Now it's being reported that Russia is not collecting the bodies of its dead soldiers... because "it's not worth it"

twitter.com/mars_is_calling/status/1498993428075618308

Miloslaw
8 Mar 2022  #4211

because "it's not worth it"

And they don't want all those body bags and funerals in Russia........

PolAmKrakow
8 Mar 2022  #4212

Now Russian secure communications are down. Ukraine army intercepting their calls and knows their locations and plans. LMMFAO This is Russian technology! This is what you stupid F's are so in love with! Putin's pussies can kill civilians and commit war crimes, and now they are being hunted as soon as they turn their cell phones on. This is just priceless!

Novichok
8 Mar 2022  #4213

All that for Z-P=0. Stooopid!

PolAmKrakow
8 Mar 2022  #4214

@amiga500
EU now going to cut Russian imports for fuel by 2/3 this year! Phase out completely by 2030. Nord Stream 2? It may as well be used as an escape tunnel because that wont be carrying anything to anyone. A big middle finger to Russia, and not just for today, but for years to come. Happy gulag MFers.

Novichok
8 Mar 2022  #4215

...and 8 per gallon.

P2Ps will be so happy...For "democracy" in Ukraine and that Z-P=0, the sky is the limit.

PolAmKrakow
8 Mar 2022  #4216

@Novichok
Take the bus. Walk. Stop consuming so much and prices will just drop. Stop being so fat and lazy maybe, or get another job because there are plenty available.

AntV
8 Mar 2022  #4217

Just as today you don't say that gays are mental if you want to stay employed.

True that. That is a dichotomy of the West's standing with Ukraine to protect their freedom (and it is about freedom from the Uke perspective). We shout about Ukrainian self-determination and their fight against an autocratic invader, while we slide toward self-imposed dictatorship of the mind and the cancelling of divergent points of view. It is schizophrenic and contradictory.

mafketis
8 Mar 2022  #4218

Now Russian secure communications are down

I read somewhere that the Russians bombed the towers they need for their secure network leaving them to use unsecure phones.... great Russian planning!

And true to form, Russia is attacking those in a 'humanitarian corrdi...." oops I mean shooting gallery.

Plans for a "Pro-Russian" rally with Crimeans playing the part of grateful locals was disrupted by locals

twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1499827372794728453

amiga500
8 Mar 2022  #4219

EU now going to cut Russian imports for fuel by 2/3 this year! Phase out completely by 2030.

Great News! As long as west can't put up with some discomfort, ie the germans stopping nordstream1, and all oil/gas imports from russia, and putting up with some cold, like the russians have been putting up with discomfort since 1989, then we have no chance. it's not really that hard, europe can survive without russian gas. They starved Ukraine during the Holmodor, now it's our turn to turn the screws on the ruski scum.

In Other News
United Nations bans staff from using 'war' or 'invasion' regarding Ukraine

irishtimes.com/news/world/united-nations-bans-staff-from-using-war-or-invasion-regarding-ukraine-1.4821438
Instead, UN staff have been instructed to use the terms "conflict" or "military offensive" to describe Russia's invasion of its neighbour, which has killed hundreds of civilians and forced two million to flee the country.

No words to describe how useless this organisation is, never again...

PolAmKrakow
8 Mar 2022  #4220

@amiga500
It is a waste of prime real estate in NYC. Whole thing should be flushed.

amiga500
8 Mar 2022  #4221

And what do you, econ genius, think that will do to the price of .... everything?

Who cares moron? it's a war. youtube.com/watch?v=o9wNJ78S2GY

It is a waste of prime real estate in NYC. Whole thing should be flushed.

Yep , move it to Saudi Arabia or something and let some decent people make some money off that land. Raze the buildings? , will make nice office space or maybe make it green park space, massive children playgrounds, hockey and football fields etc. so many billions wasted on a useless organisation, another league of nations failure.

"The United Nations is the League of Nations of our times- an utterly useless joke. This is all new level revolting and when, in the future, we are asked by children why the United Nations was dissolved, we can use the war on Ukraine where the Russian regime launched their invasion as an example."

mafketis
8 Mar 2022  #4222

The Russian economy then and in the future...

ztwitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1501122180180029441/photo/1

Crow
8 Mar 2022  #4223

Poland is lucky. Serbs love Poland. Very much.

PolAmKrakow
8 Mar 2022  #4224

twitter.com/IlvesToomas/status/1501132994605682689

How trolls will operate this new version is still undecided. It is not a military operation, it is a special financial operation to return Russia to the financial state of 1989.

mafketis
8 Mar 2022  #4225

pushing jewkranian army

Rule of thumb - Putin stans are nazis.

special financial operation to return Russia to the financial state of 1989

The Putin base did want a return to the USSR (but Russia is too incompetent to even manage that... they need help from the rest of the world).

Tacitus
8 Mar 2022  #4226

Putin stans are nazis.

Dirk is a Nazi (no exaggeration, look at his rhetoric and how in the past he refered to Stormfront as his source).

Crnogorac3
8 Mar 2022  #4227

If Russia did not have nuclear warheads, a gigantic military coalition of the Globalist Elite - of which weak and corrupt presidents and prime ministers are slaves - would have already committed against Russia the same crime that was committed against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, in 1991 and 2003, and against Slobodan Milošević's Serbia in 1999.

mafketis
8 Mar 2022  #4228

Serbs love Poland

It's a sin to tell a lie. If you support Russia against Ukraine you support Russia against Poland. No ifs ands or buts.

You're an enemy of Poland, just have the honesty to say so.

Crnogorac3
8 Mar 2022  #4229

watch?v=xsh9V8UxenI

The Russian approach summary; isolating factions that are willing to work with Russia, from those that are irreconcilable in their hostility to Russia has worked in Syria and is working in the Ukraine. This same strategy is being applied to NATO. Germany's government does not want to cut off its access to Russian oil & gas. Poland refused to send fighter jets. Hungary's government does not want to send weapons to Jewkraine. These governments don't want to provoke air strikes against JewSA military bases that they stupidly (or under duress) allowed on their own territory.

This time next year when a gallon of gasoline costs $20 the kike-manufactured hysteria against Russia will be forgotten as Wakanda collapses economically and structurally.

Bratwurst Boy
8 Mar 2022  #4230

It doesn't look good.....

Chaos, verbal abuse, crying soldiers

»It looks very much as if the first Russians will desert«

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-die-probleme-von-russlands-streitkraeften-a-d24cbdf6-3e46-4c8f-8f2e-f746f6a5faea

The Russian armed forces are struggling with technology, logistics and supply problems, experts speak of crumbling morale. How long can they keep up the fight as it is now? ....

That's the question.....

Putin has to cut news from outside Russia so that his subjects only hear his side of the story.....he even lied to his army, not telling them where they are going to fight....WHY all that if he is so righteous and confident of victory???

....Therefore, according to Freedman, one must say goodbye to the assumption that the efficient Russian army would soon overwhelm the defeated Ukrainians. Rather, this is now a war that the Russians could also lose.

After all, Putin will no longer dominate Ukraine. And independently of a political victory for Russia, which can increasingly be ruled out, Michael Kofman also believes that one could possibly see the beginning of the end of Putin's regime at the moment. A victory for Ukraine is actually possible. 'Yes, it would be a Pyrrhic victory.' A victory at such a cost that it was almost a defeat. "This war will be incredibly destructive for both countries." ...


Unimaginable just a week back...


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