Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Please the word is serfs...(Leibeigenen?) The Russian people refuse to get off their knees and stand up to their government...

....my dictionary came up with "subjects" first!

...and I will be remembered for my Z-P=0 - like that mc*2 - and that it wasn't worth dying for.


Maybe because they studied the probability of success and decided that the risks outweigh the benefits?
They can always leave and end up as refugees in Western Europe, right?

...but still.....these reports from the frontlines put the reports of the condition of our Bundeswehr in perspective at least....we are not alone that bad....maybe not even THAT bad.....

*feels better*

The problem in Russia is that there's no reward for honesty... so much (most?) of the money that was meant to modernize the military disappeared into banks and was converted into yachts. And since Russia is a 'shoot the messenger' type of place people lie to those above them rather than given them unwelcome truth and those at the top have no earthly idea what's going on below.

In this case banal Russian corruption has so far worked in Ukraine's favor....

The german defense budget last year was about 46,9 Milliarden (Billions?) Euros! For that much money the Bundeswehr should also look alot sharper than she does....some things are not right here either!

The power of Z-P=0 is amazing. It neutralizes that idiotic Polish PF pathos and removes the desire to die za ojczyzne.
I do recall vividly how nobody was talking about an armed uprising against the Soviets in Poland after 1945. I wonder why...
Also, how did life change for the lower 90% of Poles between 1985 and 1995? Would that change be worth dying for?

Billions, milliard is not really a word in English. Germany's problems are entirely different, Germany has largely become lazy... too dependent on other countries (Russian gas, American defense) There's also been (maybe?) a... decline in competence? Not sure how to put it, however efficient Germany used to be it's far less efficient now (the strong impression I get from... everything).

Just spit it out!

Our decline started with the forced dissolving of our legendary prussian military academy....so there...

@Crnogorac3
Poor Russian $hi* stain troll. Apparently you do not get the news. You and your country are over. All you are doing right now is convulsing as your heart stops due to loss of blood. Your turd world country is ending. Once and for all, Russia will realize the destiny that has been waiting more than 100 years for them. Desolation, desperation, and deportation. A gallon of gas at $20 is not a problem as long as you are spending 5 million rubles for a half liter of milk. Your children will die slow and painful deaths, just like you killed Ukraine children, you will watch this without anything to do to stop it.

Then, when your biatch of a leader Putin is dead, you can come and lick the shoes of the west and beg forgiveness. You are in the throws of death. Soon you will be buried and the world will celebrate. Our hate for you is the only thing you have been right about in any of your posts.

Its crazy how these Anglo, Anglicanized and papinized net entities go wild when Poles and Poland does not respond with hostility on Russia. Like their entire purpose is disrupted.


For sure no Poles would gladly die for EU. Even yesterday EU wanted to molest and punish Poland. But, since Russia started molesting EU, Brusssels don`t have time to think of fuc*ing Poland.

Who knows, maybe Russia now move to completely liberate Poland from EU. One never know.

@Bratwurst Boy

Good point. As much as us Americans (rightfully) complain about Germany not honoring the 2% commitment, and folks are now soiling themselves at the degradation of Germany's military, NATO does have a part to play in it. Can't remember the guys name, but one of the guys framing NATO said the purpose of the alliance was "to keep America in, Russia out, and Germany down."

It's going to be interesting to see how things shake out if Germany does in fact beef up its military. I got a feeling there'll be some nerves in Europe and America.

The biggie, IMO, is will Germany want to develop a nuke program down the road.

Is Europe, in general, as ticked off as GK about the halt of the warplane transfers?

*nods*

So true! Make Germans to pussies and then complain if they don't wanna fight anymore...or can't...


I doubt that....France has nukes....GB has nukes....(Poland should get some too...just in case)....inside NATO with these neighbours we don't really need them...or?

Stopping pushing that, it's not gonna happen....

And Russia is officially Z in this conflict (with their cute half swastika).... (and Belarus is zero).

And, that's the biggie, IMO. Once you guy's start feeling your oats again, where does it end? A Prussian is a Prussian is a Prussian, right? :)

A true Prussian doesn't need nukes!

I just say so, heh:)

Hence a bloc that has $15Tril GDP is set to increase its defense spending...and is currently engaged in one big group hug.

I have no corrections to make, but allow me to say that you are an economic illiterate and should probably stick to the things you understand through your specific training.

By this very useful (stupid) measure of output, that you advocate we should employ - the Russian economy is now perhaps 50% smaller than it was in the middle of February. That is, the Russian nominal GDP as measured in 2022 US dollars has dropped from say $1.7 trillion, to somewhere around $800B.

Now if I understand your argument correctly you are saying this is an accurate reflection of the actual economic processes on the ground. Within a matter of weeks - the volume of Russian economic output has halved? If this is your level of understanding of the subject, then I have nothing further to discuss with you.

Tomorrow, if the Ruble rallies to 50 rubles to the dollar, will you also tell me that Russia's GDP grew 300% in one year, from $800B to $2.4 trillion?

You, Euros, are lucky because we have your favorite moron for president. That's why you hated Trump.

@Novichok

What I find funny about this, is how historically myopic this approach is. It's the favorite national pastime of Ukrainians and Poles to track the economic deterioration of Russia, and cheer on its "impending collapse". Sort of like the people that wait for their enemies corpse to flow past them as it makes its way downriver. Pity, however, that it is Poland and Ukraine which seem to disappear from the map with a frightening regularity.

Instead of waiting for Russia to collapse, maybe learn to live with it, and perhaps - just maybe - this will work to your mutual advantage.

A comment Z from dailymail.com:
This con man has 3 passports and a stolen billion fortune. Don't be fooled he's not an actor for nothing


Thanks. I was just ready to give up on humanity and you showed up.

I'm fairly sure people would be most happy to just "live with it", if Russia would just leave them alone too...

What am I advocating... and now apparently the ruble is down to half a cent.... but noooo problemo for Russia or Putin (esp the latter).

Russians have strongly supported Putin so far so they should be fine with it.... and when is the stock market going to reopen again?

@mafketis
Anything you actually want to say?


Nice try. I said "learn to live with it". You still have some homework to do. You get an F. Come back to me when you are more prepared.

Did you guys see the Polish news (jets)?

And an armored Russian train entered Ukraine:

tech.wp.pl/rosyjski-pociag-pancerny-nietypowa-bron-na-wojnie-w-ukrainie,6745137344989760a

Yes, Poland's collective sphincter narrowed to duck-levels of tightness. Now they want America to do the transfer from Rammstein. Maybe GefreiterKania has communicated her nuclear concerns to Duda.

And how Poland thinks to escape that hug? What would Poland in the same group with Germany that have 100 mlrd eur spending for military?

EU molested Poland, you know, yesterday practically. Why do you think EU one day won`t finish what once started? Presumably, it become obvious Russia is not interested in Poland, for any reason?

To say, what would prevent Germany not to annex Poland? See, in Multi-Polar world USA would have its sphere. Outside of Europe. Meaning, to translate you, if Poland isn`t with Russia and if Poland isn`t in some new Commonwealth (Visegrad plus Serbia, etc, outside the EU), Poland won`t have protector. Won`t exist. Not as Slavic at least. Not at all.

That opening new questions. If Poland isn`t Slavic, some Slavs there would like to stay Slavic. Certainly. Would that be natural end of Poland? From within? or with outside sponsors? new partition?

....nah....you don't even have a comeback....means my homework was just right, thank you! :)

And no, nobody has to learn to "live with" an agressive neighbour...they get sooner or later neutered....in Russia's case probably rather sooner.

@Bobko

But that weakened ruble will more than likely affect demand as its purchasing power declines, which would diminish output. Now that Russia's access to foreign currency and lending is strictly limited, will Russia be able to lessen the blow to affected industries? How deep are Russia's foreign currency reserves? Will it print more rubles? If so, will that not only lead to greater stress on purchasing power?

Poland has a multi vector approach to foreign policy as crystallized by ex foreign minister Sikorski:

"Complete bullshit. We'll get in conflict with the Germans, Russians, and we'll think that everything is super because we gave the Americans a blow job - losers. Complete losers."

Do you think something is wrong with this approach, Crow?