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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Novichok
11 Mar 2022  #4741

Russia now....but China next! That's overdue...

Never underestimate Western greed and the ability to rationalize anything that brings a buck. Google Lenin rope

Bratwurst Boy
11 Mar 2022  #4742

Never underestimate Western greed

Sure.....but blackmailing and humiliation are sometimes worse!

Velund
11 Mar 2022  #4743

Isn't this Azov supposed to be a battalion? Maybe it's a regiment? Maybe it's a division?

Initially, a volunteer battalion consisting of Nazi extremists, in September 2014 it was deployed into a regiment, in November 2014 it was transferred to the National Guard of Ukraine. Currently, many young people who passed through this and other nationalist battalions managed to go through military schools and come to the positions of junior commanders in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Here is old, pre-hysteria Newsweek article where many nazi units is mentioned.

newsweek.com/evidence-war-crimes-committed-ukrainian-nationalist-volunteers-grows-269604

Bratwurst Boy
11 Mar 2022  #4744

I think the "Putin-Youth" is much bigger......and totally Nazi!

thesun.co.uk/news/14944163/putin-unleash-hitler-youth-propaganda-army-peddle-hate/

amiga500
11 Mar 2022  #4745

Good historical analysis by the Globe and Mail.

A tale of four cities
'This story of four Eastern European capitals, all under attack from Russia, over the past 70 years makes nonsense of the claim that NATO expansion eastward caused this crisis. After this history, Eastern Europeans understood that if they didn't have a NATO security guarantee, they couldn't keep their democracy. The West didn't impose NATO upon Eastern Europeans: they demanded it and we would have been derelict not to have provided it.

Eastern Europeans have always understood that an authoritarian Russia, whoever rules it, has never tolerated a free state on its borders.

Mr. Putin's brutality has a pedigree. He mirrors the brutality of the czars toward the Poles in the 19th century and the brutality of Joseph Stalin toward his empire's national minorities. Like his predecessors, Mr. Putin crushes his foes at home and abroad. Blaming it all on his demonic, even demented personality misses the deep historical continuity in the use of Russian power within and beyond its frontiers.'

theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-michael-ignatieff-on-war-in-ukraine/

mafketis
11 Mar 2022  #4746

.we are re-thinking big time our dependence on such nutter states....

Rethinking?

Bratwurst Boy
11 Mar 2022  #4747

We acknowledged we have a problem....the first most important step. The will to change is huge, even if that means costs and discomforts!

Ziemowit
11 Mar 2022  #4748

Do you think Dmitry Medvedev will replace Putin when they kill Putin

He is from the same gang as Putin, so I cannot imagine this happening.

This is why Ukraine needs to be liberated....

Should we hope Poland is liberated soon after?

Bratwurst Boy
11 Mar 2022  #4749

Interesting if true:

Ukrainian commander in Mykolaiv tells us Russians are abandoning many vehicles near the city."They have no will to fight. They don't even have food. It's -10 with snow here, they don't want to be here."

twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1502199923055419396

Most probably wishful thinking here, but between this and the routed units around Kyiv, this is starting to look to me like a widespread collapse of the Russian offensive.

😮

Our Bundeswehr can't be worse.....

Novichok
11 Mar 2022  #4750

Here is old, pre-hysteria Newsweek article where many nazi units is mentioned.

If Ukraine had no Nazis or a single gun, once in NATO, it would have something a lot more dangerous: the tripwire called Article 5.

We already know how other tripwires worked. The Tonkin Resolution, WMDs, babies out of incubators, Monika,...

When the swamp wants another war, the swamp has a way of getting another war and making it look like it was the other guys who started it.

Unless, of course, the other guys are the good guys. Like Israel in 1967 and 1973. Then a pre-emptive move was just another case of military genius.

It was.

Atch
11 Mar 2022  #4751

Here is old, pre-hysteria Newsweek article where many nazi units is mentioned.

Have you ever visited the website of Amnesty International? Have you ever downloaded their annual human rights report?

Here's what they had to say about the Russian occupied part of Ukraine just last year:

"Territories in eastern Ukraine controlled by Russia-backed separatists remained beyond the reach of many civil society and humanitarian actors. Suppression of all forms of dissent persisted, including through arrest, interrogation and torture and other ill treatment by the de facto authorities, and imprisonment in often inhumane conditions.Independent information from these territories was increasingly sparse."

Ziemowit
11 Mar 2022  #4752

Our Bundeswehr can't be worse.....

BB, when do you expect Germany to be liberated by the Russian army?

Bratwurst Boy
11 Mar 2022  #4753

Erm......"liberated" from what?

We barely have any Jews anymore....

Miloslaw
11 Mar 2022  #4754

only to discover that their land is now not much different from Mecca.

That is an American myth.

Vlad1234
11 Mar 2022  #4755

Putin claims that the West bulls Russia not because of its political system, but because Russia is too large and independent for them. What do you think about it?

Bratwurst Boy
11 Mar 2022  #4756

Special summit at Versailles

EU wants to finance further arms deliveries to Ukraine

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-eu-will-weitere-waffenlieferungen-finanzieren-a-5e5044e4-1800-403e-9f0d-5355efc42b53

The EU wants to provide another 500 million euros for the supply of weapons and equipment to the Ukrainian armed forces. This was announced by EU Council President Charles Michel on Friday after consultations with the heads of state and government in Versailles, France.

The money for the military support comes from the so-called European Peace Facility. It is a new EU financing instrument that can also be used to strengthen the capabilities of armed forces in partner countries. For the period from 2021 to 2027, the peace facility is endowed with around five billion euros. ....


PolAmKrakow
11 Mar 2022  #4757

@Vlad1234
Putin can claim that he is the father to caged bear cubs and Fing Russians will buy it. This is once again nothing but Russian propaganda. No one cares how big the land mass is, and we are showing them the path to their complete independence and isolation from the rest of the world. Please be my guest and enjoy your independence as we enact laws and rules to make sure you can not enjoy the western things you all crave. Happy gulag and enjoy the $hi* sandwiches being served at all the vacant McDonalds.

Crnogorac3
11 Mar 2022  #4758

amerikwan green nig*er joining the fight

youtu.be/pMjNVJyRzdo

Bratwurst Boy
11 Mar 2022  #4759

but because Russia is too large and independent for them....

That is China too....

mafketis
11 Mar 2022  #4760

Nuke 'em all!

I bet theyre' thinking... "Oh... if only we hadn't drawn those pictures, we wouldn't have to be throwing people into a mass grave....."


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Miloslaw
11 Mar 2022  #4761

There are more than 2.5 million Muslims in the UK

So how many non muslims does that leave?

57.5 million.

That means that in every 100 Brits, only 4 are Muslim.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Mar 2022  #4762

throwing people into a mass grave....."

I wonder how Ukrainians and Russians will ever live together peacefully again....after this....

Putin is said to have placed secret service chiefs under house arrest

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-wladimir-putin-soll-geheimdienstchefs-unter-hausarrest-gestellt-haben-a-fc6c2c42-2adc-4fad-9b0f-e7e0ffa7b916

Russia's attack on Ukraine is proceeding more slowly than the leadership in Moscow had planned. Now there are growing indications that President Vladimir Putin, at the helm of the army and secret service, has taken action. ....

Kremlin chief Vladimir Putin is said to be dissatisfied with the course of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. According to consistent reports, he is said to have held several responsible persons accountable in view of the sluggish advance of his troops. At least two high-ranking secret service officials are said to be under house arrest, and according to Ukrainian security circles, generals have even been fired....


...doesn't look so good!

Paulina
11 Mar 2022  #4763

Putin claims that the West bulls Russia not because of its political system, but because Russia is too large and independent for them.

I think that at this point you should stop believing Putin already. Haven't you noticed that he's a vile liar who's not only lying to the West, but also to his own people?

Happy gulag and enjoy the $hi* sandwiches being served at all the vacant McDonalds.

It looks like Vlad1234 lives in Canada, so he won't have to eat those "$hi* sandwiches", unlike his compatriots (if he's Russian, that is).

Vlad1234, are you Russian?

PolAmKrakow
11 Mar 2022  #4764

@Bratwurst Boy
He knows his replacement is in this group of leaders, and locking them up before they can kill him is part of the plan.

Meanwhile all Russian alcohol and food banned from the USA. Say goodbye to Stoli and caviar in NYC. Good for the Polish vodka business though, so Poland wins again.

A false flag terrorist attack on Chernobyl is concerning and thats the latest info coming from Ukraine. If this happens, I think all bets are off regarding other EU or NATO involvement. That could send a few countries rushing in to Ukraine.

@Paulina
It is only a general statement meant for all Russians and trolls alike. Equal opportunity is the American way.

Crnogorac3
11 Mar 2022  #4765

and ran into 20 Irish army veterans who spent the night in Krakow signing their papers yesterday at the Ukraine embassy to join the war.

A message from Russia to them:

rs.sputniknews.com/20220303/upozorenje-rusije-stranim-placenicima-sedam-puta-razmislite-pre-polaska-u-ukrajinu-1135016936.html

i.ibb.co/PmB9kmL/1109167226-0-207-2907-1842-1920x0-80-0-0-75d7ed510d8a05e3cb676645454e5af8-jpg.webp

A warning from Russia to foreign mercenaries: Think seven times before you go to Ukraine

The Russian Defense Ministry warned the foreign mercenaries who want to go to Ukraine joining the battle on the side of Kievan regime to think it through really good.


"I appeal to the citizens of foreign countries who plan to fight on the side of the Kievan regime to think it through seven times before the departure." Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said.

Konashenkov underlined that under international law the mercenaries are not regular soldiers and they have no right to the status of war prisoner.


I think it's clear what will happen to them.....

Bratwurst Boy
11 Mar 2022  #4766

If this happens, I think all bets are off regarding other EU or NATO involvement. That could send a few countries rushing in to Ukraine.

I thought the same after the first rumours of russian chemical weapons....

Novichok
11 Mar 2022  #4767

we wouldn't have to be throwing people into a mass grave....."

No, it's Article 5 at the end of the rainbow. Those weird Russians and Putin. Don't they know that Article 5 is optional and just to scare the enemies? For now, it's the crying kids, sobbing mothers, and weepy Western TV viewers. Then, when the evening news is over, it's what's for dinner or hon can you get me a beer...and back to PF.

mafketis
11 Mar 2022  #4768

Putin, at the helm of the army and secret service, has taken action. ....

Let the purges begin! Russians are so nostalgic for the USSR and now they're getting it! Their money is worth less than toilet paper and they can't buy foreign currency, only government news is availalbe, soon they won't be able to leave the country.... and will start fearing knocks at their front doors...

Novichok
11 Mar 2022  #4769

That means that in every 100 Brits, only 4 are Muslim.

Who were not there before you let them in. What really counts is the trend. In your case, the trends are not on your side. Neither are ours.

Putin's problem is not what is but where it's going. His haters prefer what is, followed by so what's the problem - 1943 Jewish ghetto mentality until there were none...

mafketis
11 Mar 2022  #4770

Vlad1234, are you Russian?

A Ukrainian told me a few years ago that Russians in NAmerica either completely ignore or utterly _hate_ the local people they live among (not with) and resent that they have a better lifestyle than Russians ahve and worship Putin far more than people in Russia do.

So... it wouldn't surprise me.


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