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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



johnny reb
23 Mar 2022  #6421

On the one hand, "the Russians are stuck

Yup, and it is getting worse for Russia by the day.
The hand from above is creating flooding and mud to protect the city of Kyiv from advances.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/satellite-photos-show-flooding-around-kyiv-protecting-the-capital-from-russian-advances-in-a-possible-instance-of-hydraulic-warfare/ar-AAVpbe9?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

The US is monitoring for 'Potential Contingency' On Nuclear Weapon use by Russia also.

Cojestdocholery
23 Mar 2022  #6422

what is the polish government actually doing?

Is not they are not doing anything, they do a lot but that is not that easy as it sounds. Even your Australia if they would be given 2 millions people in three weeks would struggle.

I was talking about taking care of the Polish people interests in the context.

the barracks of the army and the territorial defence forces for refugees

What? Those are need to train Polish forces. Are you Russan agent or just silly?

Man these people are dumb...

Look has never occured to you that you are dumb. Why do you think that people who go there do not know it? That they are ready to take it on? Some maybe are young and naive idiots but most know what they are get themselves into.

mafketis
23 Mar 2022  #6423

These are people who are raised in negativity

Vlad Vexler says that Russians are not citizens, they are a population living in a territory. This means that lots of civic ideas that are natural even in a place like Poland (though weakened) just don't exist there.

Ukrainians in 2004 realized that if sufficiently well-organized they can change Ukrainian policy from the ground up and 2013 was a continuation of that (the same way that 1956 eventually led to the elimination of the PRL.

Russians don't realize that yet (or don't care).

amiga500
23 Mar 2022  #6424

Putin has said Russia will only accept payments in rubles for gas deliveries to "unfriendly countries",

Don't worry with Schroder and Merkel still behind the wheels of the german establishment I'm sure the germans, as always , on the wrong side of history, will find a way to make it happen. After all Merkel is ex-Stasi and Shroder is current Gasprom. That is the German elite we are facing.

Even your Australia

I don't deny that in Australia the individual/citizen organisation/NGO response would have been a lot less, but the government response would have been more. Is that a compliment to Polish people and society? Definitely Yes. The polish citizens has done their part, now it's time for the government to step up, because we are overwhelmed.

Novichok
23 Mar 2022  #6425

There are none.

So Poland has nothing to fear other than Article 5 and the US - an addict desperate for another war.

between the amount of covid vaxxs/boosters a person took and how strong their support for Ukraine is.

That is funny! Plus Santa, Tooth Fairy, 'democracy" and "freedoms".

Vlad Vexler says that Russians are not citizens, they are a population living in a territory.

You might not believe it but I read the same about Americans.

Cojestdocholery
23 Mar 2022  #6426

About 80% people in Russia support Russian aggresion against other countries.
About 76% of people in Russia support Russian attack against Poland even if nukes were to be used.

mafketis
23 Mar 2022  #6427

t I read the same about Americans.

This is the difference between people living in a place (Russia) and citizens (US)

dailymotion.com/video/x252q9i

Which place would you rather be?

Novichok
23 Mar 2022  #6428

About 80% people in Russia support Russian aggresion against other countries.

Just as 70% of Americans supported killing Vietnamese because they wanted a one-party system like the one in China - our dearest trading partner.

Which place would you rather be?

With my wife, kids, grandkids, CDs, and all else I own. If you move them to Russia and make me fluent in Russian, I would move in a heartbeat and watch the next May 9 parade in person.

mafketis
23 Mar 2022  #6429

Just as

ah.... "А у вас негров линчуют"..... you never get tired of it do you, you're like a cat chasing a laser light. Someone points out something critical about your beloved Russia or Putin and you're off to the races looking for you 'whatabout?' example.

How is the very misguided American participation in Vietnam even remotely related to Russia invading a peaceful neighbor?

Novichok
23 Mar 2022  #6430

American participation in Vietnam even remotely related to Russia invading a peaceful neighbor?

Just standing guard at the bottom of the hill aka High Moral Ground...If you could relieve me for a lunch break...

If the US had a moral and legal right to feel threatened by the prospect of a one-party Vietnam enough to kill...Quoting:

2 million civilians on both sides and some 1.1 million North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters.

...then Russia has ten times the reason to feel threatened by the prospect of the snake getting closer and closer.

Based on the numbers, Russia is a bunch of boy scouts or Catholic nuns, by comparison.

Pinching Pete
23 Mar 2022  #6431

How is the very misguided American participation in Vietnam even remotely related to Russia invading a peaceful neighbor?

Apples to pumpkins.. but hey, he calls the USA home and sh/ts on it with abandon. Tells you all you need to know.

Dead Russkies piling up, comrade Nov... You like comparing past US engagements: How about the Revolutionary War? Send the Ukies some blue coats?

Crnogorac3
23 Mar 2022  #6432

Poles are infatuated with Zelensky too

When zhydovsky pardon zelensky nebulously declares that they neutralized over 30 Russian battalions, then they in the western audience believe it. The man is scattered in numbers, these notions have nothing to do with a battalion, the man coldly stated that he had neutralized a few tens of thousands of Russian soldiers. Hey there Rambo, I didn't recognize you. Although I understand the NATO b!tch, he must justify his role, at least by lying. To warm the frozen hearts of his fans a little. One day he says they are watching him for the last time, the second day he goes to Poland and says he will not come back alive again, the third day he says Kiev is falling help us, the fourth day he says there is no chance for the falling of Kiev, the fifth day he killed 30,000 Russians, the sixth day he plays with his cock piano.

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Netflix has already announced a casting competition for a series about a piano dick player. I expect Idris Elba as the main actor, while he plays the piano with his dick, with his left hand he strangles Putin and with his right hand sticks the American flag in the Kremlin.

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Pinching Pete
23 Mar 2022  #6433

ticks the American flag in the Kremlin.

Again, fixated on everything American? Ad nauseum. Don't watch Netflix maybe? I'm sure the Russian version is great. Impaled Ukie grannies would be compelling film making.

Novichok
23 Mar 2022  #6434

Apples to pumpkins..

You are right. 3 million dead Vietnamese and 58,000 Americans vs how many dead in Ukraine? And, guess what, I don't even care how many Russians have died so far.

What I do mind is PF posters jerking off with their selective outrage, climbing that High Moral Ground hill.

amiga500
23 Mar 2022  #6435

zelensky nebulously declares that they neutralized over 30 Russian battalions, .

Hahaha so after 3 weeks of war , how many cities did the ruskies expect to take, like half the ukranian country, including kiev, and then leading up lviv? you incompetent morons have not even taken mariupol. how stupid and dumb is that of the ruski army? post all the memes you like absolutely nothing can explain your absolute failure.

Novichok
23 Mar 2022  #6436

Netflix has already announced a casting competition

Like I said, longer war, more movies. In Poland, more poems for the dead heroes. It's hard to write a poem to commemorate the living.

Crnogorac3
23 Mar 2022  #6437

"Ukraine has been shelling Donbass since 2014 and NOBODY said anything. FVCK NATO!"
Britney Spears banned from Instagram for anti-NATO post

"Why didn't the bombing of Yemen attract the same attention? Huh? This is not a one-sided conflict!"
the singer wrote in her post.

western values

*rejoices* that more and more people are resisting this Marxist single-mindedness

amiga500
23 Mar 2022  #6438

Ukraine has been shelling Donbass since 2014

Let me rephrase that for you, Ukrainian forces and the separatist forces have both been shelling Donbass since 2014

Crnogorac3
23 Mar 2022  #6439

mariupol

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This is how the Eastern microdistrict of Mariupol looks now from a bird's eye view. I notice that the artillery officer doesn't bother much with the coordinates.

Velund alwas said that this is where the headquarters of the Azov battalion is and the Russians are going to make an example out of them of what will happen to their most hardcore opponents.

johnny reb
23 Mar 2022  #6440

A Captain of Russian oligarch's $85 million superyacht stuck in Norway says crew is catching and barbecuing fish after local suppliers refused to refuel the vessel

Bratwurst Boy
23 Mar 2022  #6441

..... and I feel really sorry for the old folks who probably thought they had seen the last of that

*nods*

We KNOW there is an opposition because Putin kills and jails them, but still....it would be nice to see some more broad resistance....even China had their rebellion once...

It would be best for the whole country Putin would be chased away by the Russians themselves!

But till then...."mitgegangen, mitgefangen, mitgehangen"....it was the same for the Germans.

amiga500
23 Mar 2022  #6442

I notice that the artillery officer doesn't bother much with the coordinates.

So finally you mongol savages admit you can't even take one the the most formerly russian friendly cities in Ukraine, without going all Chechnya and levelling the place? what an indignment on your whole ideology, strategy and long game. If anything proves it it is your despicable response. And that is just one eastern city , full of russian ethnic and even more russian speakers, wow the resistance must have been a surprise to you mongol invading cowards, It must be galling to you that even the ethnic russians that arrived after ww2 are siding against the invaders. Imagine what will happen to the ruskis in the rest of country.

PolAmKrakow
23 Mar 2022  #6443

@amiga500
Well said. Traitors come in all forms. Even those who should be grateful to the country that gave them a new life when they did not have to.

Russia vows to respond to Poland expelling diplomats. LMFAO Who cares? Any Poles who are stuck there are going to be happy to get home. Then they can wipe their @$$ with real toilet paper instead of rubles.

@Novichok
Funny is the lines of people trying to get sugar and toilet paper in Russia already. That's actually hilarious. Funnier would be you getting stripped of citizenship and going to Russia.

Beautiful day in Krakow today. Even with lots more people, everyone enjoying the sun and taking nice walks in Planty. Ukraine language can be heard everywhere, and there has not been any problems I have seen. Funny how a few Belarus license plates were also spotted on my walk today, all of them had Ukraine flags in the windows. Maybe some of them left to escape what they know is coming only a week of so behind the Russian sanctions. Spoke to a friend in Breast today via text, and Belarus people are no where near as supportive as the Russians concerning the war.

mafketis
23 Mar 2022  #6444

selective outrage

It may surprise you but people in Poland care a lot more about war crimes being committed in a neighboring country right this minute than they do a conflict that ended almost 50 years ago which did not involve Poland nor its neighbor Ukraine to any significant degree.....

Crazy, I know....

Where is Rwanda in your 'whatabout' list? Is there any way you can blame it on the US?

This seems pretty accurate

twitter.com/DMokryk/status/1506355120556195841

Putin only cares about his ability to invade.... the reasons are irrelevant and will be invented later as needed.....

Novichok
23 Mar 2022  #6445

Even with lots more people, everyone enjoying the sun and taking nice walks

As somebody said, guests are like fish...You know the rest. Hahahahahaha...

Funny is the lines of people trying to get sugar and toilet paper in Russia already.

I would swear you are describing the US. Free cheese, lines for gas at Costco...

people in Poland care a lot more about war crimes being committed in a neighboring country

I am going to guess that people in Poland were oh so proud to participate in war crimes in Iraq, a place Poland was so happy to send its brave men and women to fight terrorism that never came to Poland.

It was a good move. Just in case...Kind of like Russia now. Just in case...

Tlum
23 Mar 2022  #6446

I hope the PF people realize all this nonsense talk about nuclear war etc. it's just a planned show to scare people. Soon, they will beg for one world government and chips to keep them safe. Wake up, it's a PsyOp, don't fall for it!

Novichok
23 Mar 2022  #6447

That's the answer? Come on - you can do better than that. :)

I know as much as you do what Putin's plans are. You can answer your own question just as easily.

Wake up, it's a PsyOp, don't fall for it!

Wow! Finally a voice of reason.

I hope the PF people

Don't. They are stupid happy in their selective holy indignation and beyond repair.

Is there any way you can blame it on the US?

Only if the US mumbles something about how the Taliban was mean to women as a reason for the invasion.

GefreiterKania
23 Mar 2022  #6448

I know as much as you do what Putin's plans are.

My point was that the same question you asked about Zelensky can be asked about Putin, and it will be equally valid.

it's just a planned show to scare people

I initially fell for it myself, but it becomes more and more evident that it was just a bluff. In any case, there's no need now even for conventional military action: Russian losses in 26 days in Ukraine are comparable to Soviet losses in Afghanistan in 10 years of war (see #6,417), and the sanctions are taking their toll too. Russia has lost the war already, they just haven't properly processed and accepted the outcome yet.

mafketis
23 Mar 2022  #6449

oh so proud to participate in war crimes in Iraq

Not so relevant as Russian war crimes in Chechnya and Syria (especially since they're replaying those right now in Mariupol).

Can you ever actually address the points being made? I'm guessing..... no......

Novichok
23 Mar 2022  #6450

question you asked about Zelensky can be asked about Putin, and it will be equally valid.

True. Except that P is winning because he is not losing. When some aggressor is close to Moscow, I would ask the same question. Have you ever heard of a winner contemplating surrender?

Can you ever actually address the points being made?

I already answered your moronic FBI question. Have more? Go ahead.

Russian war crimes in Chechnya and Syria

A small detail. Russia is in Syria legally. The US is in Syria illegally.
You know that Syria has its own government - as repugnant as it is to some.


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